Week 5: Steelers at Bills 10/9 1pm

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Why exactly? His QBR was GREAT before he got hurt. That year, Roethlisberger was out for the season, he had ZERO offensive weapons. They couldn't block which caused the offense to really suck. Even with all that, he was decent. To the point of being hurt, he was hitting about 70% of his passes with 7 TDs to 2 INTs. He hit almost 86% the week before he was hurt against Cincy. 

 

The ONE game he started the next year (2021) against the Browns when they sat Ben, he slung it around the field for over 300 yards. They allowed him to throw it deep and it showed. 

 

NOTE: I watched every game Mason played in that year on RZ.

 

 

Wait and see.  I’m not going to waste any more time debating it.  Just….wait and see.

[Chandler#81]

 

[RiotAct]

25 minutes ago, julian said:

Not a shot at any particular poster, but man oh man did that Jags loss mind f**k a lot of Bills fans. That loss is brought up in every thread as a reason to not be too optimistic and that’s gotta suck to carry that around your neck like some heavy burden bestowed by the football gods.

 

yes it did!  Most likely cost us a Super Bowl appearance.  

[Chandler#81]

 

[K-9]

Just now, BillsFanSD said:

I don't think there's anything wrong with noticing that the Steelers have a worse offense than ours and also a worse defense than ours.  This is not a competitive matchup, and it's delusional to pretend otherwise.

 

Yes, upsets happen sometimes.  This would be a big upset.

Never said there’s anything wrong with it. Fair analysis of position groups isn’t disrespecting the opponent, anyway.  

 

But you’d think we’d know better, Bills fans especially, that nothing is ever a foregone conclusion in sports. The ball is shaped funny. Weird crap happens and that often renders the mismatch on paper meaningless. 
 

Regardless, every team in the league, from the undefeated to the winless, have world class athletes capable of playing in this league. I just happen to think that always deserves respect. Others’ mileage may vary and that’s just fine. 

[Greg S]

27 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

You do realize we tied the NFL record for winning games by 10+ points set back in 1941-1942 right?

 

I realize it but I wouldn't want to give 14 points with money on the line. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Beck Water]

18 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

His world champion coaching has them at 1-3 and should be 0-4 if not for about 6 Bengals turnovers.

Please keep posting, I'm getting really close to never having to hear from you.  The sooner I click that button the better.

 

Just don't feed the Troll boyz

58 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

You are taking a lot of shots for this.  
 

Please describe the flaws and what areas of our game lacks consistency?    Then look are the team’s total offensive and defensive rankings.  Maybe you should do the later first? 

 

He's a troll, and a bad one.  Those guys don't Do constructive contributions.

[The Red King]

For those mentioning the Jags game last year, it happens.  It hurts, but it is proof any team can win any given Sunday.  For example, I remember a year when the Patriots were crushed by a lowly Bills team on opening day.  Despite later going 14-2 and winning the Super Bowl, that embarrassing loss so badly vexed Brady that he took a shot at hotels in Buffalo the week before that Super Bowl.

 

It happens.  Get over it.

[WyoAZBillfan]

18 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

 

I don't trust our head coach. So yes, I am concerned with every game. Between our loss to the Jaguars last year, our first half against the Bucs, our blowout loss to the Titans at home, and our playoff loss to the Chiefs last year, I have reason to be concerned.  And that doesn't include the wind game against the Pats or the opening loss to the Steelers.  1 or 2 bad games is ok, not 5 or 6 of them. We started again this year with the incomplete games.  Week in and week out this team is not playing up to what it is capable of doing. 

 

Welcome to the 2022 NFL season. Buckle up and enjoy the ride. 4 games,  injuries and weather have had an impact on “what” this team is capable of doing, throw in new players and a coordinator to boot.  Small sample size in reality. 
Go Bills!

[Locomark]

Rookie QB, no Watt, and vengeance for last years lazy home opener. This game will be a blowout. The only reason this won’t be a 40 burger is who knows how healthy our WRs are and who know if McD wants this is be a get right game for our running game one we get a lead. 

[Big Turk]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I mean I guess that's how Von Miller knows about Josh Allen....it's why he calls him "a creature"

[co_springs_billsfan]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

That explains how he arrives to games...

 

 

[Warcodered]

9 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

That explains how he arrives to games...

 

 

After last week I guess he just wanted to be ready to work on the Sun.

[ShakAttack]

DT Justin Zimmer and CB Jordan Miller signed to PS

 

DT CJ Brewer and DT Prince Emili released

 

(sorry if already posted)

[Blank Stare]

Love that Zimmer is back on PS!

[Back2Buff]

I think it's a little ridiculous that Tomlin is putting his rookie QB in this situation.

 

If this was a Bills rookie QB, I would not be happy.  There is a very good chance Pickett won't even finish the game.   The guy is going to get hammered with that o line vs the Bills d line.  He won't be able to change plays because of the noise.  It's going to end very badly, IMO.

[ArdmoreRyno]

52 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Wait and see.  I’m not going to waste any more time debating it.  Just….wait and see.

 

What a way to back up your stance! 

 

"He's a bum" 

 

"Why?"

 

"I'm not going to waste any more time debating it."

 

Just brilliant. LOL 

[Warcodered]

Just now, Back2Buff said:

I think it's a little ridiculous that Tomlin is putting his rookie QB in this situation.

 

If this was a Bills rookie QB, I would not be happy.  There is a very good chance Pickett won't even finish the game.   The guy is going to get hammered with that o line vs the Bills d line.  He won't be able to change plays because of the noise.  It's going to end very badly, IMO.

Wasn't Josh's first start against a pretty good Chargers defense?

[K-9]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Wasn't Josh's first start against a pretty good Chargers defense?

Yeah, but at least it was at home. Then again, the half he played in his first game at Baltimore was also against a good defense with a loud crowd enjoying a blowout. 

[MasterStrategist]

3 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

DT Justin Zimmer and CB Jordan Miller signed to PS

 

DT CJ Brewer and DT Prince Emili released

 

(sorry if already posted)

Also hopefully a good sign that Jordan Phillips and/or Ed Oliver will be returning this week.  

 

Other upcoming roster moves:

1. Crowder likely to IR

2. Eligible to come off IR/PUP: Speedy and Tre, starting this week

 

My guess is Tavon is signed to active roster (filling Crowder spot), and that Speedy returns to practice this week (will have 3 weeks to activate him).  Tre, pure guess is that he'll start practicing over the bye week and potential return for Packers SNF.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

What a way to back up your stance! 

 

"He's a bum" 

 

"Why?"

 

"I'm not going to waste any more time debating it."

 

Just brilliant. LOL 

Why does Mason Rudolph not have it? He's from the same draft class as Josh so it's his 5th year with the team and they signed Trubisky to start and drafted a 1st round QB again. He's QB 3 at this point and that's just what it is.

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

What a way to back up your stance! 

 

"He's a bum" 

 

"Why?"

 

"I'm not going to waste any more time debating it."

 

Just brilliant. LOL 

I’ve said my peace on this bum since prior to the 2018 draft.  He was the only QB I was against taking.  I watched a lot of his tape in college.  He was like a deer in headlights. He played vs Big 12 defenses which had some thinking he was good.  Not a terrible college qb, but that rarely translates in the nfl.  He reminded me of Landry Jones.  So far, he’s done nothing to change my mind.  

 

I watched all of Eric Crouch’s games in Nebraska.  I thought he was a great college QB.  That doesn’t mean he was going to be a good nfl player.

[julian]

1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

 

Well I assume you mean me since I brought it up. First and foremost....I didn't bring it up as a reason to not be optimistic nor am I "carrying any burden". I simply stated it responding to poster that said they are "expecting an easy win".

 

Basically pointing out the obvious that no win is easy. Hope I cleared that up enough for you in that regard...

You’re one of many many posters and it wasn’t a knock nor did I assume everyone holds onto that loss for all the same reasons.

 

I too was pointing out the obvious.

[Son of a K-Gun]

18 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Also hopefully a good sign that Jordan Phillips and/or Ed Oliver will be returning this week.  

 

Other upcoming roster moves:

1. Crowder likely to IR

2. Eligible to come off IR/PUP: Speedy and Tre, starting this week

 

My guess is Tavon is signed to active roster (filling Crowder spot), and that Speedy returns to practice this week (will have 3 weeks to activate him).  Tre, pure guess is that he'll start practicing over the bye week and potential return for Packers SNF.

Would the Bills sign Tavon to the active roster or just use a PS call up if they need him?  Not 100% sure on how that all works...if he is a PS call up does he need to be signed to the active roster to be active on game day?  These rules change so often I can't keep them straight.

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, julian said:

You’re one of many many posters and it wasn’t a knock nor did I assume everyone holds onto that loss for all the same reasons.

 

I too was pointing out the obvious.

 

I'm sorry, I'm a little confused....I'm one of many posters meaning what exactly? I agree with you that some hold on to certain losses and I'm in no way asking to be an ####### or anything.... lol

 

Just curious what you mean I'm one of many posters? I try to be as respectful, level headed as possible lol

[ArdmoreRyno]

25 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Why does Mason Rudolph not have it? He's from the same draft class as Josh so it's his 5th year with the team and they signed Trubisky to start and drafted a 1st round QB again. He's QB 3 at this point and that's just what it is.

 

I don't think he's a NFL starter, but a solid backup. He's still on the team for a reason, only QB who's been there since 2018... while 5-6 different ones have been put on the block or cut all together. He's just been given the chance she he was hurt in 2019 to show what he can really do. The one game he did, threw for over 300 yards and 2 TDs. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

19 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’ve said my peace on this bum since prior to the 2018 draft.  He was the only QB I was against taking.  I watched a lot of his tape in college.  He was like a deer in headlights. He played vs Big 12 defenses which had some thinking he was good.  Not a terrible college qb, but that rarely translates in the nfl.  He reminded me of Landry Jones.  So far, he’s done nothing to change my mind.  

 

I watched all of Eric Crouch’s games in Nebraska.  I thought he was a great college QB.  That doesn’t mean he was going to be a good nfl player.

 

Ridiculous statement. I watched every game he played in college. 

 

13,618 yards

92 touchdowns

 

(and he only started 3 games as a freshman)... with a 32-10 record as a starter in college and really only had one bad game over his entire college career (vs WVU his soph year). You were only anti-Rudolph at the QB spot. That's over Josh Rosen, Luke Falk, Alex McGough and Logan Woodside. Hell, his record as a starter is better than Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.

 

But you watched a lot of his college tape. LOL 

Okay due... anyway. No reason to argue it, you probably also believe what Myles Garrett said too.

[MasterStrategist]

14 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

Would the Bills sign Tavon to the active roster or just use a PS call up if they need him?  Not 100% sure on how that all works...if he is a PS call up does he need to be signed to the active roster to be active on game day?  These rules change so often I can't keep them straight.

They could do either option, sign to active or PS callup (only can get called up 3x tho) which wouldn't count against an active roster spot. 

 

Ultimately, I think they decide to on how close Speedy is to returning.  JMO, but think the staff still sees potential and he was having a solid camp until injured in early August.

 

If Speedy is close, my guess is they will use a PS callup on Tavon.

[ColoradoBills]

15 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

Would the Bills sign Tavon to the active roster or just use a PS call up if they need him?  Not 100% sure on how that all works...if he is a PS call up does he need to be signed to the active roster to be active on game day?  These rules change so often I can't keep them straight.

 

I think he (or Hodgins) just get a call-up.  The Bills don't have to fill the 53rd roster slot.  

Probably depends on how Kumerow is recovering.

[Big Turk]

52 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

DT Justin Zimmer and CB Jordan Miller signed to PS

 

DT CJ Brewer and DT Prince Emili released

 

(sorry if already posted)

 

Let me understand this...Emili just made one of the plays of the game by batting a ball up that Poyer picks of and he is rewarded by being cut from the PS a few days later?  Damn...Beane is cold blooded.

23 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

Would the Bills sign Tavon to the active roster or just use a PS call up if they need him?  Not 100% sure on how that all works...if he is a PS call up does he need to be signed to the active roster to be active on game day?  These rules change so often I can't keep them straight.

 

They would just call up Tavon if needed unless they plan on signing him to he roster, although I believe they would be looking at activating Stevenson from the PUP list.

[Ta111]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Let me understand this...Emili just made one of the plays of the game by batting a ball up that Poyer picks of and he is rewarded by being cut from the PS a few days later?  Damn...Beane is cold blooded.

There a lot more that goes into the decision than 1 play. I’m sure they evaluated all the plays in making the decision.

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Ridiculous statement. I watched every game he played in college. 

 

13,618 yards

92 touchdowns

 

(and he only started 3 games as a freshman)... with a 32-10 record as a starter in college and really only had one bad game over his entire college career (vs WVU his soph year). You were only anti-Rudolph at the QB spot. That's over Josh Rosen, Luke Falk, Alex McGough and Logan Woodside. Hell, his record as a starter is better than Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.

 

But you watched a lot of his college tape. LOL 

Okay due... anyway. No reason to argue it, you probably also believe what Myles Garrett said too.

Yeah.  I watch lots of tape on lots of prospects every year.  Especially that year,  I watched a lot of his college tape.  I hated him as an NFL prospect.   I was right to hate him.  He stinks.  You’ll see.  He will likely never be a chosen starter ever again and never amount to anything more than a bum nfl qb.  
 

you listed college stats.  Playing in the big 12.  You act as if that means something with regards to success in the nfl.  

Edited October 4, 2022 by NewEra

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah.  I watched a lot of his college tape.  I hated him.  I was right to hate him.  He stinks.  You’ll see.  As he will likely never be a chosen starter ever again and never amount to anything more than a bum nfl qb.  

 

 

I never said he would be a NFL starter. I've said he's a quality backup. "I was right to hate him"  - Dude, you have issues... and I call BS on your "watched a lot of his college tape". Have a good one! Go smoke a joint and be happy. 

[NewEra]

Just now, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

 

I never said he would be a NFL starter. I've said he's a quality backup. "I was right to hate him"  - Dude, you have issues... and I call BS on your "watched a lot of his college tape". Have a good one! Go smoke a joint and be happy. 

You’re new.  We’ve had lots of discussion on Rudolph here.  My feelings of Rudolph were known and adamant.  I stated several times that he was the only QB in that draft that I would’ve been sad about drafting.  

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Why exactly? His QBR was GREAT before he got hurt. That year, Roethlisberger was out for the season, he had ZERO offensive weapons. They couldn't block which caused the offense to really suck. Even with all that, he was decent. To the point of being hurt, he was hitting about 70% of his passes with 7 TDs to 2 INTs. He hit almost 86% the week before he was hurt against Cincy. 

 

The ONE game he started the next year (2021) against the Browns when they sat Ben, he slung it around the field for over 300 yards. They allowed him to throw it deep and it showed. 

 

NOTE: I watched every game Mason played in that year on RZ.

 

 

 

Every QB has a highlight reel.  Except for maybe Peterman.  He has the anti highlight reel.  RZ is all about highlights. Tons of bust QB's have some nice looking 300 yard games.  If he was some great QB he would have been starting.

[ArdmoreRyno]

Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

Every QB has a highlight reel.  Except for maybe Peterman.  He has the anti highlight reel.  RZ is all about highlights. Tons of bust QB's have some nice looking 300 yard games.  If he was some great QB he would have been starting.

 

I only said he has been given one chance since the 2019 season, in which he threw for 300 yards. I never said he was a "great QB", I've said he's a good backup and I'd want him as a backup. 

 

Not sure why a couple of you guys keep reading between the lines. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

 

Could you imagine Moulds in his prime with Josh Allen.  Sigh.  That guy was so good.

[Greg S]

(7) Teresa Varley on Twitter: "Coach Tomlin on injuries: Terrell Edmunds - concussion protocol Minkah Fitzpatrick - knee Cam Sutton - groin/hamstring Cam Heyward - elbow/ankle Ahkello Witherspoon - hamstring still an issue and not expected to play Others being monitored and participation will be the guide." / Twitter

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Great.  Now we have two aliens on the team.

43 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

Would the Bills sign Tavon to the active roster or just use a PS call up if they need him?  Not 100% sure on how that all works...if he is a PS call up does he need to be signed to the active roster to be active on game day?  These rules change so often I can't keep them straight.

 

I think they can call up a PS player 2 or 3 times but dont take my word for it.  I didnt follow all those rule changes and dont know if its changed again this year.