Help me understand an OBJ trade

[Goin Breakdown]

4 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Maybe Von will pick up OBJ's salary.

Or maybe the chiefs will and many will panic. I agree though that money is tight, but then again some say the salary cap isn't  real. Idk

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

***** OBJ.  We need a big receiver. Could you imagine a Megatron or DK Metcalf with Josh Allen?

 

Hell, we can’t even game plan our 50 million dollar TE in our offense. 
 

[Mr. WEO]

35 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Listen to what Von had to say today.

 

He said he chats with OBJ about once a week and keeps in touch with him.

 

He said when things get serious, he knows where OBJ is going to end up, implying Buffalo.

 

https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/podcasts/schopp-and-bulldog-20261/von-miller-and-his-continued-recruitment-of-obj-1528925298

 

I didn't listen, but do I get credit for reading the same thing detailed  in @YoloinOhio post 2 hours ago in the other OBJ thread?

Edited October 5, 2022 by Mr. WEO

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

11 minutes ago, Bills2022 said:

OBJ is not playing in Buffalo.  I doubt he plays for anyone this year.  That is his second ACL injury.  He had surgery just a few months ago and he is very injury prone.  Last three seasons he has played 7 games, 6 games, and 8 games and they weren't very productive.  4 or his last five years he has been nothing but a 300 yard per season receiver.  

 

 

 This is wrong on so many levels. He hasn't played 7, 6 & 8 games over the last 3 years. He's played 16, 7 & 14, the 6 & 8 games were from last year on 2 separate teams. 1 of those years was a 1,000 yard season. Also was very good in the playoffs last year catching 21 of 26 targets for 288 yards and 2 TDs. He had 9 catches for 113 yards in the NFC championship game against the 49ers. 

 

 

[Turbo44]

17 minutes ago, Bills2022 said:

OBJ is not playing in Buffalo.  I doubt he plays for anyone this year.  That is his second ACL injury.  He had surgery just a few months ago and he is very injury prone.  Last three seasons he has played 7 games, 6 games, and 8 games and they weren't very productive.  4 or his last five years he has been nothing but a 300 yard per season receiver.  

 

He'll play for somebody from December on.  If you don't think he made a huge difference to the Rams last year, i don't know what to tell you.  Before he got hurt in the SB he was the MVP of the SB

[Bills2022]

5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

He'll play for somebody from December on.  If you don't think he made a huge difference to the Rams last year, i don't know what to tell you.  Before he got hurt in the SB he was the MVP of the SB

 

He had surgery in early 2022.  The Rams might sign him, but his agent isn't letting him sign a contract for a few weeks of play.  He waits and he gets a real deal from someone in the offseason.  

Edited October 5, 2022 by Bills2022

[CA OC Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Bills2022 said:

 

He had surgery in early 2022.  The Rams might sign him, but his agent isn't letting him sign a contract for a few weeks of play.  He waits and he gets a real deal from someone in the offseason.  

We'll see. I tend to think that when he's healthy, if a team that has a realistic chance to make a deep playoff run wants him and he expects to get significant targets, he'll go for it.

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I didn't listen, but do I get credit for reading the same thing detailed  in @YoloinOhio post 2 hours ago in the other OBJ thread?

 

You get a cookie. You can help yourself.  😋

[BigDingus]

49 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Here we are waiting for Tre and wondering how long it will take him to ramp up and get back to speed after tearing his ACL on Thanksgiving.  Now here is a WR who tore his ACL in the SB and people seem to assume he is some savior from our injuries, I just dont see it.  Not to mention the BIlls are second in passing yards and TD passes.  We are worried about depth and we should be in the near term but McKenzie and Davis should get healthy, Crowder is done for a while but do we need to panic buy?

 

But what would be his rate? Is a 1 year, $8-$10 million a "panic buy?" Hardly.

 

Also, last week we were down to 3 healthy **active** WR's available for the game. Depth is important, and the rate we're sustaining injuries isn't a great sign. Davis is still not 100% either, so we don't have a legitimate #2. 

 

With Knox not being nearly as productive as last season either, it's smart to look for additional talent to help the passing game. 

[Bills2022]

32 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 This is wrong on so many levels. He hasn't played 7, 6 & 8 games over the last 3 years. He's played 16, 7 & 14, the 6 & 8 games were from last year on 2 separate teams. 1 of those years was a 1,000 yard season. Also was very good in the playoffs last year catching 21 of 26 targets for 288 yards and 2 TDs. He had 9 catches for 113 yards in the NFC championship game against the 49ers. 

 

 

 

Wrong.  While I was wrong about last year, he did not play in 14 games in 2019. He played in ZERO games.  His stats over the last three years are terrible. 

 

Over the last three regular seasons.  

 

21 total games. (7 games per year)

 

857 yards total. (285 yards per year)

 

8 TD's. (2.7 TD per year)

 

Take out his year he didn't play, 2019, and his 2020 and 2021 stats are still awful.

 

His last two seasons

 

11.5 games per year.

 

428 yards per season.

 

4 TD's per season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2022 by Bills2022

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

3 minutes ago, Bills2022 said:

 

Wrong.  While I was wrong about last year, he did not play in 14 games in 2019. He played in ZERO games.  His stats over the last three years are terrible. 

 

Over the last three regular seasons.  

 

21 total games. (7 games per year)

 

857 yards total. (285 yards per year)

 

8 TD's. (2.7 TD per year)

 

Take out his year he didn't play, 2019, and his 2020 and 2021 stats are still awful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Once again you're wrong. He played 16 games in 2019 and had 74 Catches for 1,035 yards. Unless multiple sites, with the same info, are wrong.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16733/odell-beckham-jr

 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeckOd00.htm

 

So the stats you gave for games played per year, total yards,, average yards per season,  total TDs & average TDs per season are all wrong.

 

 

[Draconator]

13 minutes ago, Bills2022 said:

 

Wrong.  While I was wrong about last year, he did not play in 14 games in 2019. He played in ZERO games.  His stats over the last three years are terrible. 

 

Over the last three regular seasons.  

 

21 total games. (7 games per year)

 

857 yards total. (285 yards per year)

 

8 TD's. (2.7 TD per year)

 

Take out his year he didn't play, 2019, and his 2020 and 2021 stats are still awful.

 

His last two seasons

 

11.5 games per year.

 

428 yards per season.

 

4 TD's per season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did your biology degree from a Cracker Jack box tell you that?

Edited October 5, 2022 by Draconator

[boyst]

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

Pre Madonna?  Is he really that old?  

Of all people to take that bait. That's amazing it was you. 

[Mr. WEO]

18 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

Did your biology degree from a Cracker Jack box tell you that?

 

 

Does OBJ prefer women with LOTS of eggs...or ones with not so many left?

[Draconator]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Does OBJ prefer women with LOTS of eggs...or ones with not so many left?

Ask Diggs

[Billz4ever]

2 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Not even that but is he even healthy?!? 

He could be towards the tail end of the regular season and be good for a playoff run, but he knows teams are looking.  I actually think he wants to remain in LA and he's traveling around touring other teams facilities and hinting he's willing to move on social media in order to be able to drive up his price for the Rams.  The Rams need him.  They aren't doing great on offense right now at all.

[SoCal Deek]

So if Austin wouldn’t stay for the $14k per week what makes anyone think OBJ is willing to accept it? 😉

Edited October 5, 2022 by SoCal Deek

[Pete]

capisce

 

Edited October 5, 2022 by Pete

[SMAKCruiser]

1 hour ago, JohninMinn. said:

I dont want him. What are we the New York Yankees? I root for the players not the linen.

 

 

I wish we were the New York Yankees of football.   They have a lot of championships

Edited October 5, 2022 by SMAKCruiser

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So if Austin wouldn’t stay for the $14k per week what makes anyone think OBJ is willing to accept it? 😉

 

I don’t know about HIM, but where do I sign? 

[Billz4ever]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if they grabbed Jimmy G as a placeholder if they win themselves out of solid draft capital. His tenure in NE overlaps with Daboll, so they likely have a familiarity along with Jimmy G having a basic understanding of Daboll’s system/methodology. 

I've never really been a big fan of him myself.  Highly overrated to me and IMO the only reason he was ever considered good was because he played behind Brady in Belicheck's system.  Niners just spanked the Rams pretty good and niners fans are still busting on him.

 

Maybe he'll workout better in a different system, but I've just never thought much of him.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Augie said:

 

I don’t know about HIM, but where do I sign? 

How are your knees? 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Trade for DJ Moore once Panthers go full tank.  Idk the cap situation but he’s better than Beckham and a better fit for what the offense needs.

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

***** OBJ.  We need a big receiver. Could you imagine a Megatron or DK Metcalf with Josh Allen?

 

Hell, we can’t even game plan our 50 million dollar TE in our offense. 
 

We can try he's a FA

[Billz4ever]

17 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Trade for DJ Moore once Panthers go full tank.  Idk the cap situation but he’s better than Beckham and a better fit for what the offense needs.

We're currently $7.5M over the cap next year as it is.  No way we can afford him.

 

 

[Augie]

28 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

How are your knees? 

 

They are just fine, for someone born during the Lincoln administration. 

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

They are just fine, for someone born during the Lincoln administration. 

Put him in coach! You’re hired. 

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Boyst62 said:

Of all people to take that bait. That's amazing it was you. 

You don’t get it.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

But what would be his rate? Is a 1 year, $8-$10 million a "panic buy?" Hardly.

 

Also, last week we were down to 3 healthy **active** WR's available for the game. Depth is important, and the rate we're sustaining injuries isn't a great sign. Davis is still not 100% either, so we don't have a legitimate #2. 

 

With Knox not being nearly as productive as last season either, it's smart to look for additional talent to help the passing game. 

 
Down to three healthy wr’s at the end of the game.  How is that different from week 1 when down to 2 healthy dts or week three when down to 5 healthy ol?  Injuries are part of the game.  Going into a game with 5 wrs is not abnormal.  Guys getting injured is not abnormal.   

 

the bills are second i passing second, third in yards fifth in points.   McKenzie will likely be back this week.   What problem are we solving?   Honest question.  If the bills need to fix something in offense is running with the rbs.  If the bills had obj they still would have had three healthy wrs.  They have had to go deep at cb and dt from the ps.   They will have to do that now for wr.  
 

You know who needs to step up?  The franchise TE with the big contract.   We can’t just accept his lack of production he needs to be part of the solution.  It sounds like you are just writing him off since he has started slow.  
 

Smart to look for talent? Sure.  All I am saying is OBJ is not healthy and even once cleared it will take time for him to get to full strength.  It could not happen this year at all.  And we are going to use 8 million in cap for that?   
 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Matt_In_NH

[Billz4ever]

2 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

But what would be his rate? Is a 1 year, $8-$10 million a "panic buy?" Hardly.

 

Also, last week we were down to 3 healthy **active** WR's available for the game. Depth is important, and the rate we're sustaining injuries isn't a great sign. Davis is still not 100% either, so we don't have a legitimate #2. 

 

With Knox not being nearly as productive as last season either, it's smart to look for additional talent to help the passing game. 

Absolutely a panic buy and considering it wouldn't even be for 1/2 the season? That would be an outrageous asking price. He wouldn't get that from anyone.

 

We can't afford it.  Where's the money going to come from?  Basically every contract that could be restructured already has been.

 

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Billz4ever

[boyst]

19 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

You don’t get it.

Disregardless of what you think I know what a prima dona is... 

[Pete]

3 hours ago, Logic said:

The Rams and Saints both make more sense to me as destinations than the Bills.

The Rams because they've been staying in regular contact with him and clearly WANT to re-sign him, and it's L.A.

The Saints because he played at LSU and may want to return to Louisiana and to reunite with Jarvis Landry.

Personally, I don't think the Bills are going to be willing (or able) to pay him what he likely thinks he's worth. AND, I don't think he's worth what he's going to be commanding money-wise at this point in his career.
 

I’m not sure rams or saints make playoffs- but Bills are Super Bowl favorites.  By the time ODB signs, Bills will be running away with East, and Rams and Saints will be done.  He’s a rental for the playoffs, he gets his ring and to showcase himself for big contract

[chongli]

I wish either this thread would die or the OP would change the title. Sorry, it's driving me crazy.

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, chongli said:

I wish either this thread would die or the OP would change the title. Sorry, it's driving me crazy.

That’s a Britney Soears song not pre Madonna at all.

[Nextmanup]

18 hours ago, Logic said:

Personally, I didn't view his comments as any kind of implication of Buffalo being the place that OBJ ends up. 

 

Listen to it again; what do you think he's talking about!?

 

LOL

 

 

[SCBills]

17 hours ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Trade for DJ Moore once Panthers go full tank.  Idk the cap situation but he’s better than Beckham and a better fit for what the offense needs.

 

We can't afford anyone like this.  

 

I do believe we will bring in another WR at some point, but it will be Beckham on a similar deal to the one the Rams gave him or a late round pick for an inexpensive WR3/4 type. 

[Low Positive]

The solution to an OBJ trade is to cut Gabe Davis. I read that right here on TBD so it must be true.

[Big Turk]

Just now, FrenchConnection said:

The solution to an OBJ trade is to cut Gabe Davis. I read that right here on TBD so it must be true.

 

Yes..nevermind the fact he won't be ready for at least another 2 months, just cut Davis.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yes..nevermind the fact he won't be ready for at least another 2 months, just cut Davis.

Just cut him. Cut him because you think he's had a lot of drops, NFL stats attributing the same number of drops to GD13 as to SD14 (2) be damned. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by FrenchConnection

[Steel City Mafia]