RoyBatty is alive Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 A bunch of sports books are out for the first few games, of 6 books one has the Rams as 0.5 favorite, the rest have the Bills favored by 1 to 1.5, overall consensus is Bills -1. Over/under 52. Brian Daboll and Stalley are favored to win HC of the year, McDermott lower/middle tier odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I can't see Daboll winning HC of the year. I think the Giants are in for a long year. Both Schoen and Daboll have a huge rebuild ahead of them. Gettleman really screwed up that organization. Jones is going into his 4th year and he still hasn't shown he has the "it" factor to be the franchise QB. Granted the Giants OL has been terrible but he just seem like a average QB to me. Wouldn't surprise me if the Giants draft a QB in next year's draft. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Oh sure the bookies love us now till the Bills blow one pre season game 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 This is going to be a fun season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: A bunch of sports books are out for the first few games, of 6 books one has the Rams as 0.5 favorite, the rest have the Bills favored by 1 to 1.5, overall consensus is Bills -1. Over/under 52. Brian Daboll and Stalley are favored to win HC of the year, McDermott lower/middle tier odds. The last time a Super Bowl winning coach won Coach of the Year was in 2003 (Bill B.). So I think McDermott's odds to win should be 1,000,000,000:1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: The last time a Super Bowl winning coach won Coach of the Year was in 2003 (Bill B.). So I think McDermott's odds to win should be 1,000,000,000:1. I dont disagree, the Bills are the favorite to win it all this year so McDermott wont get much credit if the do. And there might be a few (especially Bills fans) that recall the 13 second debacle in KC and I put most of the blame on him, he is the HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I dont disagree, the Bills are the favorite to win it all this year so McDermott wont get much credit if the do. And there might be a few (especially Bills fans) that recall the 13 second debacle in KC and I put most of the blame on him, he is the HC. I am with you 100% re: 13 seconds. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I dont disagree, the Bills are the favorite to win it all this year so McDermott wont get much credit if the do. And there might be a few (especially Bills fans) that recall the 13 second debacle in KC and I put most of the blame on him, he is the HC. if the Bills were to win it all this year, then what would "13 seconds" have anything to do with McDermott winning coach of the year? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: if the Bills were to win it all this year, then what would "13 seconds" have anything to do with McDermott winning coach of the year? A lot, it is sentiment driven award and people are not machines, a few might hold it "against him". Is it "fair" for coach of the year in 2022-3 season, no but that is reality. If I were voting it would influence me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: A lot, it is sentiment driven award and people are not machines, a few might hold it "against him". Is it "fair" for coach of the year in 2022-3 season, no but that is reality. If I were voting it would influence me. What happened in the previous season should not be used in determining how awards should be handed out in a different season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) This means nothing, look at home opener last year. Caesars Sportsbook lists Buffalo as a 6.5-point favorite in the latest Steelers vs. Bills odds, while the over-under for total points is 48. https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/odds/matchup/83336/ Edited July 27, 2022 by Awwufelloff 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: A bunch of sports books are out for the first few games, of 6 books one has the Rams as 0.5 favorite, the rest have the Bills favored by 1 to 1.5, overall consensus is Bills -1. Over/under 52. Brian Daboll and Stalley are favored to win HC of the year, McDermott lower/middle tier odds. Daboll has the worst roster in football if he wins 5 games Id be shocked Edited July 27, 2022 by 78thealltimegreat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Lay the points and bet the house! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: A bunch of sports books are out for the first few games, of 6 books one has the Rams as 0.5 favorite, the rest have the Bills favored by 1 to 1.5, overall consensus is Bills -1. Over/under 52. Brian Daboll and Stalley are favored to win HC of the year, McDermott lower/middle tier odds. I’d take the under and Bills. I think our secondary confuses Stanford and Von Miller and the D hold Rams to under 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: What happened in the previous season should not be used in determining how awards should be handed out in a different season. I understand, did you read what I wrote? As I said, It might not be "fair" for the HC of the 2022-23 season but it is reality. There is no "absolute tests" for the award, it is totally subjective. Just as almost every year someone will vote Belichek HC of the year whether he does A BAD JOB OR NOT. He will always get recognition and attention due to his reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 the only way mcdermit wind coach of the year is if this team goes 17-0 or allen goes down and we still win big. The team is too stacked for him to get that much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Win every single game by 1 point this season, including the SB, will do me just fine😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: A bunch of sports books are out for the first few games, of 6 books one has the Rams as 0.5 favorite, the rest have the Bills favored by 1 to 1.5, overall consensus is Bills -1. Over/under 52. Brian Daboll and Stalley are favored to win HC of the year, McDermott lower/middle tier odds. I was at the gym last night and saw that on ESPN. I have no idea what they were saying. But here is the surprising think. With Bills at -1, 95% of bets and 99% of money were on Bills. this is either going to be a great season, or a huge letdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Daboll has the worst roster in football if he wins 5 games Id be shocked The Bears are going to challenge the Giants for that honor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 lol, Daboll.... 8 hours ago, Gugny said: I am with you 100% re: 13 seconds. They said the Bills team bus to the KC airport were delayed for hours until they pulled all the people McD threw under it were extricated. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I understand, did you read what I wrote? As I said, It might not be "fair" for the HC of the 2022-23 season but it is reality. There is no "absolute tests" for the award, it is totally subjective. Just as almost every year someone will vote Belichek HC of the year whether he does A BAD JOB OR NOT. He will always get recognition and attention due to his reputation. Yes, I read what you wrote, that's why I responded to this. I find it unlikely to think that 13 seconds is going to loom over McDermott every time he is eligible for coach of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 McD should have won his first year or had a make up year when the Bills went 13-3. That first year where the Bills made the playoffs after looking like they were going for a complete rebuild was remarkable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Rigby said: Win every single game by 1 point this season, including the SB, will do me just fine😁 Can't get on board with that (other than the ending of course). I will be dead in that scenario long before the game is played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Greg S said: I can't see Daboll winning HC of the year. I think the Giants are in for a long year. Both Schoen and Daboll have a huge rebuild ahead of them. Gettleman really screwed up that organization. Jones is going into his 4th year and he still hasn't shown he has the "it" factor to be the franchise QB. Granted the Giants OL has been terrible but he just seem like a average QB to me. Wouldn't surprise me if the Giants draft a QB in next year's draft. Yea, same. I think Daboll will improve the offense compared to Joe Judge and Jason Garrett, but they just don't have a lot of talent. Their defensive front is talented. The rest of their roster is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just a little worried don't know how we lost to the Steelers on opening day last year. Would much rather play the Jets in game one to tune up the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Just a little worried don't know how we lost to the Steelers on opening day last year. Would much rather play the Jets in game one to tune up the machine. I am curious to see how Josh and the rest of the offense adjust to Dorsey's system. I am sure they will keep a lot of the same schemes they ran with Daboll. But their will be some adjustments. I expect the starters on offense to get more playing time in the preseason than usual. You want to get as many reps as you can in game action before the season starts. Practice is nice but getting those reps against an actual opponent is more important. IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I just hope the new OC doesn't try a bunch of Daboll-like gimmicks such as not running the ball for an entire half, or vice versa. I hated his play calling. Always felt to me like he was just messing around up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I just hope the new OC doesn't try a bunch of Daboll-like gimmicks such as not running the ball for an entire half, or vice versa. I hated his play calling. Always felt to me like he was just messing around up there. The offense obviously will be centered around Josh but I would like to see the Bills become more balanced. There are times when you need to run the ball and I don't want Josh to be the one running. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: The offense obviously will be centered around Josh but I would like to see the Bills become more balanced. There are times when you need to run the ball and I don't want Josh to be the one running. Agreed....and the key to that balance rests squarely on the shoulders of the O Line coach and his blocking schemes. You cannot be balanced when the running back heads straight into a wall of humanity every time he takes the handoff. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Looking at stuff like this now makes me chuckle a bit. For year, even during the drought, fans would get pissed the media wasn't "giving us respect," even though the Bills hadn't done anything to earn it. The past couple seasons changed that, and now the Bills get a TON of love, even without making a SB. Funny how winning & having a great QB changes the narrative on the national stage huh? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Just a little worried don't know how we lost to the Steelers on opening day last year. Would much rather play the Jets in game one to tune up the machine. Be careful for what you wish for. The Jests should be much improved over last years version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Does it look like Ramsey might not play first game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Be careful for what you wish for. The Jests should be much improved over last years version. Only if Wilson shows the same kind of improvement that Josh did from year 1 to 2. They should play the Bills tougher as their roster is better but I do think the Bills will sweep them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Does it look like Ramsey might not play first game? Jeff Galooli and I got that covered. Chip in $15k and he has his sights set on Donald too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Greg S said: Only if Wilson shows the same kind of improvement that Josh did from year 1 to 2. They should play the Bills tougher as their roster is better but I do think the Bills will sweep them again. I too think the Bills will be better.....but all we have to do is remember the JAX game last year........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Greg S said: Only if Wilson shows the same kind of improvement that Josh did from year 1 to 2. They should play the Bills tougher as their roster is better but I do think the Bills will sweep them again. I think that is very much in play though. The question for me with Wilson will be more can he then make the year 2 to year 3 leap that Josh did. I think that season 2 jump that Mitch Trubisky had and then Josh had very similar is the right barometer for Zach year 2 and I think he can do that. It is the next step then.... does he go the Trubisky way or the Allen way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kwai San said: I too think the Bills will be better.....but all we have to do is remember the JAX game last year........ True and upsets do happen. When playing their rivals I don't expect the Bills to have a letdown. I don't know if they will go 6-0 but since divisional games are the most important I would think the Bills will be fired up for these types of games. Jax is a "meh" game which is exactly the type of game for a letdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, Greg S said: True and upsets do happen. When playing their rivals I don't expect the Bills to have a letdown. I don't know if they will go 6-0 but since divisional games are the most important I would think the Bills will be fired up for these types of games. Jax is a "meh" game which is exactly the type of game for a letdown. They are 11-1 the last two seasons. On paper they should be 6-0 again, but in all their years of dominance I think the Pats only swept the division twice. It is easier said than done. My gut says 5-1 again although I am not confident calling the one they lose haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: I think that is very much in play though. The question for me with Wilson will be more can he then make the year 2 to year 3 leap that Josh did. I think that season 2 jump that Mitch Trubisky had and then Josh had very similar is the right barometer for Zach year 2 and I think he can do that. It is the next step then.... does he go the Trubisky way or the Allen way? Good point. Allen really took off in year 3. I don't think Wilson will be as a good as Josh but he can be the 2nd best QB in the division and a good QB overall. Just now, GunnerBill said: They are 11-1 the last two seasons. On paper they should be 6-0 again, but in all their years of dominance I think the Pats only swept the division twice. It is easier said than done. My gut says 5-1 again although I am not confident calling the one they lose haha. If they do lose a divisional game I think it will be Miami despite Tua holding them back. Possibly the Jets but I doubt it. I do think the Bills will sweep the Pats. NE had a bad offseason and Jones doesn't look like anything special. Both the Fins and Pats have QB problems IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think that is very much in play though. The question for me with Wilson will be more can he then make the year 2 to year 3 leap that Josh did. I think that season 2 jump that Mitch Trubisky had and then Josh had very similar is the right barometer for Zach year 2 and I think he can do that. It is the next step then.... does he go the Trubisky way or the Allen way? Spot on. The yr 2 Allen bounce was nice and not a real shocker. It was the monstrous leap year 3 which was off the bell curve exceptional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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