Gunner's 2022 Mock Draft (v3 and FINAL - p.17!!)

[Rocky Landing]

With so many players basically set on this team, I wonder if there wouldn't be sufficient impetus to trade up in either the first, or second round (or both)? We had a very similar situation last season, and we ended up with two draft picks-- a developmental guard, and cornerback-- poached off the practice squad. I don't think anyone expected Anderson, or Wildgoose to make the 53 on draft night, but I do think they were viewed as decent developmental prospects. This team has holes-- but not a ton of them. Personally, I would hope for quality over quantity this draft.

[No_Matter_What]

On 3/25/2022 at 1:50 PM, gonzo1105 said:

No thanks on Kinnard it’s a reach imo and he is literally Ford all over again Tackle with slow feet who needs to move inside, known for his mauling, still has slow feet gets killed on the interior. He was awful at the senior bowl. Doesn’t fit the high athletic profile their going for on the line either. 

 

On 3/25/2022 at 1:59 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

He did struggle mightily in the senior bowl practices and I agree he isn't their kind of RAS profile. But their holes at the moment are RG and CB2. I am not sure they can get out of the first two rounds with either addressed.

 

On 3/25/2022 at 5:25 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

No offense gunner, but I can’t see any chance the Bills don’t take a CB in first 2 rounds unless they sign a starting caliber CB before the draft who has some speed.  Personally, I think we might take 2 in the first 4 or 5 rounds.

 

Problem with Kinnard in Gunner's mock is that we seem to be in no man's land in 2nd round overall, esp. if we draft WR in the 1st round. I thinkit is very likely that we'd like to draft CB, WR and IOL early, but as it follows from Gunner's mock as well as other boards I've seen there are no CBs/IOL who match value with our 2nd round pick. There might possibly be some WRs that's why I am saying that it gets much worse if we draft WR in the first round. Therefore, Zion Johnson/WR/CB or Booth (Gordon, Elam, other CB they like)/WR/IOL seems to be the way to go.

 

Possible solution could be moving around the board. However, as discussed above, it probably won't be easy to trade down in first, and it won't be cheap to trade up in the second - for example our 4th round pick (which I wouldn't be happy to give up anyway) can maybe get us from pick 57 to pick 52 or so, which is not much.

 

Or do you guys see any players who could be available at 57 and you'd be really happy to take them? There is always an option to take completely other positions, but the way it looks now I'd be shocked if they didn't try to draft IOL and CB in first 3 rounds and I also think they would love some top talent at WR.

 

[transplantbillsfan]

@GunnerBill would you still predict a Guard in round 2?

 

Love your 1st pick.  Now that we brought Bates back and with the addition of Saffold and bringing Boettget OL is no longer really a need.

 

Sucks Breece Hall would be drafted 2 picks before our 2nd round pick in your version.

 

WE NEED A CORNER!!!

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

@GunnerBill would you still predict a Guard in round 2?

 

Love your 1st pick.  Now that we brought Bates back and with the addition of Saffold and bringing Boettget OL is no longer really a need.

 

Sucks Breece Hall would be drafted 2 picks before our 2nd round pick in your version.

 

WE NEED A CORNER!!!

 

I was thinking about this earlier. No, it would likely point me away from guard. It went from our biggest (though not necssarily most important) hole to a mid-tier need.

[transplantbillsfan]

22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I was thinking about this earlier. No, it would likely point me away from guard. It went from our biggest (though not necssarily most important) hole to a mid-tier need.

 

So who would you change our round 2 pick to?

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

So who would you change our round 2 pick to?

 

Maybe I'd go Emerson or Traiq Woolen (I don't have Woolen as a 2nd round grade, but he has a perfect 10 RAS score and that is their type) at corner. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe I'd go Emerson or Traiq Woolen (I don't have Woolen as a 2nd round grade, but he has a perfect 10 RAS score and that is their type) at corner. 

I was thinking Emerson there as well. 

[Kaenon]

On 3/28/2022 at 6:41 PM, MrEpsYtown said:

I was thinking Emerson there as well. 

Emerson is the perfect fit for our Defense.

I really hope we get him.

[billsbackto81]

On 3/25/2022 at 8:37 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Meh. I'd turn 'em down.

I don't know if McDuffie gets past Buffalo if he's there at 25.

 

And as mentioned, you mocked a killer draft for the Jets.😤

[Bag of Milk]

On 3/25/2022 at 8:40 AM, Coach Tuesday said:

Would just be floored if Hamilton falls that far - he may be the best player in the draft.  I know safeties aren’t good investments that high but still… someone is going to pull the trigger on him in the top six or seven I have to believe.

Agreed. If Hamilton falls that far-Beane will be working the phones to move up.

Hamilton can be a foundational piece of a winning team for a long time.

In the current NFL I think more and more  top safety's will be wearing the green dot and directing the defense,(See Derwin James/Chargers)

Especially ones as intelligent as Hamilton. Did I mention that he is a member of Mensa?

 

Hamilton is a unicorn and can be an incredible chess piece for our defense for the next decade.

 

Edited April 16, 2022 by Bag of Milk

[No_Matter_What]

What's up @GunnerBill. Still trying to figure out how to avoid mocking us Breece Hall at 25 huh?

[GunnerBill]

32 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

What's up @GunnerBill. Still trying to figure out how to avoid mocking us Breece Hall at 25 huh?

 

Haha. It will be coming. Been landscaping my garden this week. Mock draft will drop in about 3 hours from now. 

[JGMcD2]

42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Haha. It will be coming. Been landscaping my garden this week. Mock draft will drop in about 3 hours from now. 

As long as it's before 4pm we're good.

 

I have a Mock Draft competition and my submission is due then. 😂

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

As long as it's before 4pm we're good.

 

I have a Mock Draft competition and my submission is due then. 😂

 

Will be well before 4pm US time. 

[GunnerBill]

Okay folks here it is, my third and final mock draft of 2022..... I kind of like where this has landed overall. As for the Bills, if they don't take Booth because of the injury concerns (and I understand the people who say if everyone else has passed the Bills will too) then my gut says it is between Jahan Dotson and Kyler Gordon. But here I have given them Booth (maybe selfishly 'cos he has been my guy all along) but also because I really like the way it allows the rest of the mock to fall haha. 

 

As usual I will critique how successful this was in my day 1 de-brief tomorrow morning!!

 

1 - Jacksonville Jaguars – Travon Walker, EDGE, Georgia

This is not a pick I’d agree with but Trent Baalke’s history in San Francisco is littered with shots taken on physical freaks. Everyone seems to agree it is now down to Walker or Ekwonu and I just see pass rush as a bigger need.

 

2 – Detroit Lions – Aiden Hutchinson, EDGE, Michigan

Detroit will be absolutely giddy if this plays out. I don’t yet totally rule our Malik Willis at this spot but I think they’d find Aiden Hutchinson almost impossible to pass on. They have a major pass rush need, he is an immediate impact starter and played his college ball in state.

 

3 – Houston Texans – Kayvon Thibodeaux, EDGE, Oregon

The noise on Thibodeaux more recently is that teams are still interested in taking him early. The Texans cupboard is bare on the edge. His talent may be too much for Lovie Smith to pass on. Also watch for Derek Stingley in this spot though. 

 

4 – New York Jets – Ahmed Gardner, Corner, Cincinnati

If Robert Saleh grew cornerbacks in a laboratory they would look something like Sauce Gardner. The Jets have been getting by on mid round overachievers for years at corner. Time for a talent injection.

 

5 – New York Giants – Derek Stingley, Corner, LSU

Derek Stingley might be the best man corner in this class so he goes to the team with the most man coverage dependent defensive coordinator in football in Wink Martindale. They can take Stingley first and still be assured one of their top tackles at #7.

 

6 – Carolina Panthers – Ikem Ekwonu, Offensive Tackle, North Carolina State

The Panthers have a different left tackle every season. Time to end the carousel. It comes down to Neal or Ekwonu and when I think Matt Rhule I think road grading run blockers are his thing, so I’ll make Ikey the pick.

 

7 – New York Giants – Charles Cross, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State

The Giants will take an offensive tackle with one of their first-round picks. The buzz is that they love Charles Cross and as someone who has watched Brian Daboll’s pass first offenses the last 4 years in Buffalo the best pass protector in the class makes a ton of sense.

 

8 – Atlanta Falcons – Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State

Yes they need offense, but the Falcons also need edge rush desperately. Jermaine Johnson has the length and the motor Dean Pees looks for. Immediate upgrade.

 

9 – Seattle Seahawks – Evan Neal, Offensive Tackle, Alabama

The Seahawks have no Quarterback and a huge gaping hole at left tackle after Duane Brown’s departure. They could choose to go Quarterback here but more likely they wait on that, end the slide of Evan Neal who only a month ago was thought a possible #1 overall pick.

 

10 – New York Jets – Drake London, Wide Receiver, USC

I expect the Jets to split their two picks one on each side of the ball. Which of the receivers they most covet is tough to decipher, but Mike LaFleur is a Shanahan guy so willing blockers on the outside matter. I’m going Drake London.

 

11 – Washington Commanders – Kyle Hamilton, Safety, Notre Dame

Kyle Hamilton is a top 3 player in the class who could fall out of the top 10 through positional value. He just feels like a Ron Rivera player to me so this could be the end of his slide.

 

12 – Minnesota Vikings – Trent McDuffie, Corner, Washington

I think the Vikings are going to select a corner at this spot. Think they’d love Stingley if he got here but they might be one of the teams a little wary of Andrew Booth’s injuries. McDuffie is the sort of “safe” high floor pick that could appeal to a first time GM.

 

13 – Houston Texans – Garrett Wilson, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

Houston has Brandin Cooks and not much else at receiver. If they are going to truly evaluate Davis Mills as a potential QB of the future then he is going to need some more ammunition. Garrett Wilson’s well-rounded skillset is a nice fit.

 

14 – Baltimore Ravens – Trevor Penning, Offensive Tackle, Northern Iowa

If Trevor Penning slides this far he will get no further. He starts as the dominant run-blocking machine at right tackle that they lost when trading Orlando Brown to the Chiefs, but if Ronnie Stanley’s injury woe continues Penning can man the blind side too.

 

15 – Philadelphia Eagles – Devin Lloyd, Linebacker, Utah

I have been with this pick all draft season and I am not changing my mind. Lloyd would be a perfect scheme fit for the Eagles and give them a young stud to develop as a leader of the defense.

 

16 – New Orleans Saints – Kenny Pickett, Quarterback, Pittsburgh

I have heard the Saints are intrigued by Pickett and will consider him if he slides to them. In this mock he does so let’s project them pulling the trigger on a QB of the future, partly because I do think he goes round 1 and I'm not sure where else makes sense!

 

17 – Los Angeles Chargers – Jordan Davis, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

This has been a popular pick all draft season, I have avoided it until now and still don’t love the fit but it might well be the most immediate impact pick the Chargers could make as a team with few genuine holes on the roster.

 

18 – Philadelphia Eagles – Tyler Smith, Guard, Tulsa

This is an intel selection. Told the Eagles scouts were at the Tulsa pro-day in force and Smith was the focus of their attention. A long term option at right tackle as Lane Johnson gets older, or a potential day 1 replacement for the retired Brandon Brooks at guard?

 

19 – New Orleans Saints – Jameson Williams, Wide Receiver, Alabama

The Saints essentially moved next year’s first rounder up a year in the trade with the Eagles. If you think about it that way then even if Jameson Williams doesn’t return from his ACL until mid-season you are still getting him half a season early. Speed receiver is a major need.

 

20 – Pittsburgh Steelers – Malik Willis, Quarterback, Liberty

I think Pittsburgh is where Willis ends up. Every time someone sticks a microphone in Tomlin’s face he talks about modern QBs needing mobility. I don’t rule out a trade into the top 10 to get it done, but I think Malik is going to be a Steeler.

 

21 – New England Patriots – Zion Johnson, Guard, Boston College

New England need receivers but they have also lost two of the best guards in football over the last two offseasons. The rebuilding process for the offensive line starts here.

 

22 – Green Bay Packers – Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas

The Packers need receivers and they have a type. They like bigger bodies and when you look at the guys they have had in for visits they all fit that physical profile. They also lost the YAC ability of Davante Adams and Burks is a YAC monster.

 

23 – Arizona Cardinals – Chris Olave, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

The Cardinals either pick Quarterbacks or linebackers in round one as a rule but I’m giving them a receiver here in Chris Olave. He is the best player available at this point, will immediately replace Christian Kirk in the slot but he can play outside too as they transition away from AJ Green.

 

24 – Dallas Cowboys – Devante Wyatt, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

The Cowboys will attack the trenches here. Kenyon Green is an option at guard but they are in desperate need of the sort of interior penetration on defense that Wyatt would provide.

 

25 – Buffalo Bills – Andrew Booth, Corner, Clemson

If Booth slides this far it is because of injury concerns but if the Bills are comfortable with that then I can’t see them passing. He upgrades arguably the weakest starting spot on their roster and is made to play in a Sean McDermott defense.

 

26 – Tennessee Titans – Jahan Dotson, Wide Receiver, Penn State

The Titans are honest that they factor need into their draft selections and with Julio Jones gone and AJ Brown agitating for a new contract they have a need at receiver. Jahan Dotson is mainly a slot for me at the next level but he would give them some speed and playmaking ability.

 

27 – Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Lewis Cine, Safety, Georgia

The Buccaneers lost Jordan Whitehead at safety in free agency and Todd Bowles really values safeties in his defense. They did sign Logan Ryan as a stop gap, but Cine feels like a perfect compliment for Antoine Winfield.

 

28 – Green Bay Packers – George Karlaftis, EDGE, Purdue

Karlaftis fits the Packer prototype at edge. Z’Darius Smith left in free agency so they have little depth behind Preston Smith (who could be gone after the season) and the ascending Rashan Gary.

 

29 – Kansas City Chiefs – Skyy Moore, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan

If the board fell like this don’t rule out the Chiefs trading up for a receiver. If they stay here and the top 6 guys have gone Moore feels more of a scheme fit than Watson or Pickens.

 

30 – Kansas City Chiefs – Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota

The Chiefs defense only really started to improve last season when they patched up their pass rush with the temporary addition of Melvin Ingram. Frank Clark is clearly a declining force on the opposite side too so Mafe would add raw athleticism and speed off the edge.

 

31 – Cincinnati Bengals – Kyler Gordon, Corner, Washington

The Bengals surprise run to the Superbowl last year featured over achievement from their corners who were both dust settle free agents. But when Eli Apple is a starter for you then you still require an upgrade. Kyler Gordon is widely expected to sneak into round 1.

 

32 – Detroit Lions – Christian Watson, Wide Receiver, North Dakota State

DJ Chark is currently the Lions #1 receiver. They need to fix that. Christian Watson is a boom or bust prospect but he is renowned as an excellent locker room guy with a first class attitude which I think would appeal to the culture they are trying to build in Detroit.

 

 

Okay guys.... as ever, let me have it and enjoy the draft!!

[mannc]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay folks here it is, my third and final mock draft of 2022..... I kind of like where this has landed overall. As for the Bills, if they don't take Booth because of the injury concerns (and I understand the people who say if everyone else has passed the Bills will too) then my gut says it is between Jahan Dotson and Kyler Gordon. But here I have given them Booth (maybe selfishly 'cos he has been my guy all along) but also because I really like the way it allows the rest of the mock to fall haha. 

 

As usual I will critique how successful this was in my day 1 de-brief tomorrow morning!!

 

1 - Jacksonville Jaguars – Travon Walker, EDGE, Georgia

This is not a pick I’d agree with but Trent Baalke’s history in San Francisco is littered with shots taken on physical freaks. Everyone seems to agree it is now down to Walker or Ekwonu and I just see pass rush as a bigger need.

 

2 – Detroit Lions – Aiden Hutchinson, EDGE, Michigan

Detroit will be absolutely giddy if this plays out. I don’t yet totally rule our Malik Willis at this spot but I think they’d find Aiden Hutchinson almost impossible to pass on. They have a major pass rush need, he is an immediate impact starter and played his college ball in state.

 

3 – Houston Texans – Kayvon Thibodeaux, EDGE, Oregon

The noise on Thibodeaux more recently is that teams are still interested in taking him early. The Texans cupboard is bare on the edge. His talent may be too much for Lovie Smith to pass on. Also watch for Derek Stingley in this spot though. 

 

4 – New York Jets – Ahmed Gardner, Corner, Cincinnati

If Robert Saleh grew cornerbacks in a laboratory they would look something like Sauce Gardner. The Jets have been getting by on mid round overachievers for years at corner. Time for a talent injection.

 

5 – New York Giants – Derek Stingley, Corner, LSU

Derek Stingley might be the best man corner in this class so he goes to the team with the most man coverage dependent defensive coordinator in football in Wink Martindale. They can take Stingley first and still be assured one of their top tackles at #7.

 

6 – Carolina Panthers – Ikem Ekwonu, Offensive Tackle, North Carolina State

The Panthers have a different left tackle every season. Time to end the carousel. It comes down to Neal or Ekwonu and when I think Matt Rhule I think road grading run blockers are his thing, so I’ll make Ikey the pick.

 

7 – New York Giants – Charles Cross, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State

The Giants will take an offensive tackle with one of their first-round picks. The buzz is that they love Charles Cross and as someone who has watched Brian Daboll’s pass first offenses the last 4 years in Buffalo the best pass protector in the class makes a ton of sense.

 

8 – Atlanta Falcons – Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State

Yes they need offense, but the Falcons also need edge rush desperately. Jermaine Johnson has the length and the motor Dean Pees looks for. Immediate upgrade.

 

9 – Seattle Seahawks – Evan Neal, Offensive Tackle, Alabama

The Seahawks have no Quarterback and a huge gaping hole at left tackle after Duane Brown’s departure. They could choose to go Quarterback here but more likely they wait on that, end the slide of Evan Neal who only a month ago was thought a possible #1 overall pick.

 

10 – New York Jets – Drake London, Wide Receiver, USC

I expect the Jets to split their two picks one on each side of the ball. Which of the receivers they most covet is tough to decipher, but Mike LaFleur is a Shanahan guy so willing blockers on the outside matter. I’m going Drake London.

 

11 – Washington Commanders – Kyle Hamilton, Safety, Notre Dame

Kyle Hamilton is a top 3 player in the class who could fall out of the top 10 through positional value. He just feels like a Ron Rivera player to me so this could be the end of his slide.

 

12 – Minnesota Vikings – Trent McDuffie, Corner, Washington

I think the Vikings are going to select a corner at this spot. Think they’d love Stingley if he got here but they might be one of the teams a little wary of Andrew Booth’s injuries. McDuffie is the sort of “safe” high floor pick that could appeal to a first time GM.

 

13 – Houston Texans – Garrett Wilson, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

Houston has Brandin Cooks and not much else at receiver. If they are going to truly evaluate Davis Mills as a potential QB of the future then he is going to need some more ammunition. Garrett Wilson’s well-rounded skillset is a nice fit.

 

14 – Baltimore Ravens – Trevor Penning, Offensive Tackle, Northern Iowa

If Trevor Penning slides this far he will get no further. He starts as the dominant run-blocking machine at right tackle that they lost when trading Orlando Brown to the Chiefs, but if Ronnie Stanley’s injury woe continues Penning can man the blind side too.

 

15 – Philadelphia Eagles – Devin Lloyd, Linebacker, Utah

I have been with this pick all draft season and I am not changing my mind. Lloyd would be a perfect scheme fit for the Eagles and give them a young stud to develop as a leader of the defense.

 

16 – New Orleans Saints – Kenny Pickett, Quarterback, Pittsburgh

I have heard the Saints are intrigued by Pickett and will consider him if he slides to them. In this mock he does so let’s project them pulling the trigger on a QB of the future, partly because I do think he goes round 1 and I'm not sure where else makes sense!

 

17 – Los Angeles Chargers – Jordan Davis, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

This has been a popular pick all draft season, I have avoided it until now and still don’t love the fit but it might well be the most immediate impact pick the Chargers could make as a team with few genuine holes on the roster.

 

18 – Philadelphia Eagles – Tyler Smith, Guard, Tulsa

This is an intel selection. Told the Eagles scouts were at the Tulsa pro-day in force and Smith was the focus of their attention. A long term option at right tackle as Lane Johnson gets older, or a potential day 1 replacement for the retired Brandon Brooks at guard?

 

19 – New Orleans Saints – Jameson Williams, Wide Receiver, Alabama

The Saints essentially moved next year’s first rounder up a year in the trade with the Eagles. If you think about it that way then even if Jameson Williams doesn’t return from his ACL until mid-season you are still getting him half a season early. Speed receiver is a major need.

 

20 – Pittsburgh Steelers – Malik Willis, Quarterback, Liberty

I think Pittsburgh is where Willis ends up. Every time someone sticks a microphone in Tomlin’s face he talks about modern QBs needing mobility. I don’t rule out a trade into the top 10 to get it done, but I think Malik is going to be a Steeler.

 

21 – New England Patriots – Zion Johnson, Guard, Boston College

New England need receivers but they have also lost two of the best guards in football over the last two offseasons. The rebuilding process for the offensive line starts here.

 

22 – Green Bay Packers – Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas

The Packers need receivers and they have a type. They like bigger bodies and when you look at the guys they have had in for visits they all fit that physical profile. They also lost the YAC ability of Davante Adams and Burks is a YAC monster.

 

23 – Arizona Cardinals – Chris Olave, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

The Cardinals either pick Quarterbacks or linebackers in round one as a rule but I’m giving them a receiver here in Chris Olave. He is the best player available at this point, will immediately replace Christian Kirk in the slot but he can play outside too as they transition away from AJ Green.

 

24 – Dallas Cowboys – Devante Wyatt, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

The Cowboys will attack the trenches here. Kenyon Green is an option at guard but they are in desperate need of the sort of interior penetration on defense that Wyatt would provide.

 

25 – Buffalo Bills – Andrew Booth, Corner, Clemson

If Booth slides this far it is because of injury concerns but if the Bills are comfortable with that then I can’t see them passing. He upgrades arguably the weakest starting spot on their roster and is made to play in a Sean McDermott defense.

 

26 – Tennessee Titans – Jahan Dotson, Wide Receiver, Penn State

The Titans are honest that they factor need into their draft selections and with Julio Jones gone and AJ Brown agitating for a new contract they have a need at receiver. Jahan Dotson is mainly a slot for me at the next level but he would give them some speed and playmaking ability.

 

27 – Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Lewis Cine, Safety, Georgia

The Buccaneers lost Jordan Whitehead at safety in free agency and Todd Bowles really values safeties in his defense. They did sign Logan Ryan as a stop gap, but Cine feels like a perfect compliment for Antoine Winfield.

 

28 – Green Bay Packers – George Karlaftis, EDGE, Purdue

Karlaftis fits the Packer prototype at edge. Z’Darius Smith left in free agency so they have little depth behind Preston Smith (who could be gone after the season) and the ascending Rashan Gary.

 

29 – Kansas City Chiefs – Skyy Moore, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan

If the board fell like this don’t rule out the Chiefs trading up for a receiver. If they stay here and the top 6 guys have gone Moore feels more of a scheme fit than Watson or Pickens.

 

30 – Kansas City Chiefs – Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota

The Chiefs defense only really started to improve last season when they patched up their pass rush with the temporary addition of Melvin Ingram. Frank Clark is clearly a declining force on the opposite side too so Mafe would add raw athleticism and speed off the edge.

 

31 – Cincinnati Bengals – Kyler Gordon, Corner, Washington

The Bengals surprise run to the Superbowl last year featured over achievement from their corners who were both dust settle free agents. But when Eli Apple is a starter for you then you still require an upgrade. Kyler Gordon is widely expected to sneak into round 1.

 

32 – Detroit Lions – Christian Watson, Wide Receiver, North Dakota State

DJ Chark is currently the Lions #1 receiver. They need to fix that. Christian Watson is a boom or bust prospect but he is renowned as an excellent locker room guy with a first class attitude which I think would appeal to the culture they are trying to build in Detroit.

 

 

Okay guys.... as ever, let me have it and enjoy the draft!!

As I said in another post, why are Booth’s medicals supposedly an issue, but not Stingley’s?  I mean, Stingley’s barely played since 2019 and I don’t think Booth’s missed a game. I’d love this pick for the Bills…

[LEBills]

Man I would be surprised if the Falcons didn’t take Willis being he is from Atlanta and Arthur Blank is getting pretty old… I think Ridder will go in first round too…maybe to the Saints?

[muppy]

all I can say is I am using this as my draft Primer cheat sheet today. GRACIAS . Just incredible work.

[LeGOATski]

Daxton Hill slides out of the 1st round. That's intriguing.

[MrEpsYtown]

Booth match makes so much sense. Nice work!

[N.Y. Orangeman]

I like it @GunnerBill.  What is the difference between Booth and Gordon in your view?

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Daxton Hill slides out of the 1st round. That's intriguing.

 

Yea he, Linderbaum, Ojabo and Nakobe Dean are all either 1sts or borderline 1sts on my board but don't find a home in the mock. 

 

Hill it is based on the intel that he interviewed very poorly and did not impress on his visits. I have had a couple of good amateur draftnicks in other markets say to me they have heard Lewis Cine is very likely to go ahead of him, which on pure talent is the wrong way around. 

 

Ojabo obviously it is injury, Linderbaum is just so scheme specific he is hard to find a spot for. The guy I felt least comfortable leaving out was Dean. My instinct is that his name does get called somewhere by a team who just goes BPA over strict need. 

[No_Matter_What]

Great work as always. My random thoughts.

 

1. I like how you sorted it out in top 10. I still refuse to believe that Jags take Walker but they are the Jags afterall.

 

2. I think if top 4 goes like and the Giants want Stingley+OT then it makes more sense for them to pick their OT first and select Stingley at 7. Do you think that Panthers are a threat to take him? Or do you think there is a threat that somebody might jump to take Stingley? That would be costly for a CB. However, if they don't care which OT to take then yes, just take Stingley and let the rest figure itself out (and they still might have chance to choose from them).

 

3. I like your Smith pick to Eagles. Something like this happens every year and he is a good cadidate for an unexpected jump.

 

4. If Williams was still on the board at 18 I wouldn't hesitate to offer 3rd round this year and something extra to Eagles to trade up. Same with Saints (which probably wouldn't work if they want him). But Eagles might bite. That is actually one of my dream scenarios.

 

5. I have a feeling that Cards will do some random selection. It will not be anybody expected.

 

6. Booth to the Bills at 25 is still my most favorite semirealistic scenario. Please make it happen in 12 hours and 25 minutes  

 

7. I truly appreciate that you let go that crazy idea of Tom Brady Buccanneers drafting QB in the first round you had before  However, they imo take either Green or some DL - my guess is Logan Hall.

 

8. I like who you mocked to Chiefs. They are drafting lot of players high, and if Moore and Mafe is the best what they can do, then great. I am afraid that they will do a lot better in real draft.

 

9. Cincy takes Kenyon Green if he is available. I doubt that they take corner if they can bolster OL by a prospect expected to go higher.

 

10. I love Lions picks. I wish them the best, they deserve some success. Hutchinson + Watson? Yes please.

Edited April 28, 2022 by No_Matter_What

[MrEpsYtown]

I like the Tyler Smith spot. I think his floor might be the Saints' second pick. 

[BADOLBILZ]

 

I'm not as high on Booth as you are.......but I'd take it.

 

Booth is a good prospect with CB1 potential.

 

[H2o]

49 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Daxton Hill slides out of the 1st round. That's intriguing.

Apparently he has been terrible throughout the interview process according to a lot of different sources. Smokescreen or fire, idk. 

[FLFan]

Could not be suckered by the Breece Hall hype train, huh?  Good for you sticking to the value on the board.  I would be very pleased with this pick, although Chris Olave going so close to their pick is intriguing.  I could see them jumping up a few spots here if the board fell this way and they really do have concerns about Booth.

[ExWNYer]

I'd be happy with Booth there and sleep well tonight; however, if Jameson Williams is sitting there at 19 when the Saints are on the clock, I'm picking up the phone and at least inquiring what it would take to get them to slide back six spots. That is at least within a realistic striking distance.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

I like it @GunnerBill.  What is the difference between Booth and Gordon in your view?

 

I think Booth is a superior player right now, he is just more polished. I think Gordon has a high ceiling and he could be as good as a Booth, but he will take a bit more time to get there.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

Great work as always. My random thoughts.

 

1. I like how you sorted it out in top 10. I still refuse to believe that Jags take Walker but they are the Jags afterall.

 

I think it is mad but it does seem everyone believes he is going #1.

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

2. I think if top 4 goes like and the Giants want Stingley+OT then it makes more sense for them to pick their OT first and select Stingley at 7. Do you think that Panthers are a threat to take him? Or do you think there is a threat that somebody might jump to take Stingley? That would be costly for a CB. However, if they don't care which OT to take then yes, just take Stingley and let the rest figure itself out (and they still might have chance to choose from them).

 

The latter. I think the risk is Carolina have been calling teams about getting out of #6, and it appears the league has Stingley and Sauce well ahead of the other corners. So the risk is maybe the Vikings jumping up from #12?

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

3. I like your Smith pick to Eagles. Something like this happens every year and he is a good cadidate for an unexpected jump.

 

I am all but convinced he goes tonight and as I said in the mock I got a tip that the Eagles were all over him at his pro day. 

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

4. If Williams was still on the board at 18 I wouldn't hesitate to offer 3rd round this year and something extra to Eagles to trade up. Same with Saints (which probably wouldn't work if they want him). But Eagles might bite. That is actually one of my dream scenarios.

 

I did this as a no trades mock, but obviously if Williams and Olave do slide a bit then the Bills trading up a few spots is on the table. 

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

5. I have a feeling that Cards will do some random selection. It will not be anybody expected.

 

Yea, really hard team to mock for. I nailed it last year with Zavon Collins but they are notoriously unpredictable. 

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

6. Booth to the Bills at 25 is still my most favorite semirealistic scenario. Please make it happen in 12 hours and 25 minutes  

 

Yep

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

7. I truly appreciate that you let go that crazy idea of Tom Brady Buccanneers drafting QB in the first round you had before  However, they imo take either Green or some DL - my guess is Logan Hall.

 

Again bit of an intel selection - told they were super impressed with Lewis Cine at his visit to the facility. Generally Jason Licht picks guys his coaches ask for. Can see Bowles loving him. 

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

8. I like who you mocked to Chiefs. They are drafting lot of players high, and if Moore and Mafe is the best what they can do, then great. I am afraid that they will do a lot better in real draft.

 

As I said in my write up on Skyy Moore, I think if the receivers go as they do in this mock - i.e. the run comes late teens and early 20s - then I very much expect the Chiefs to try and trade up for one. 

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

9. Cincy takes Kenyon Green if he is available. I doubt that they take corner if they can bolster OL by a prospect expected to go higher.

 

Hmm. I think they'd go tackle if there was one there. Not sure about them going with an interior guy. 

 

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

10. I love Lions picks. I wish them the best, they deserve some success. Hutchinson + Watson? Yes please.

 

Yea, for Sewell and Hutch to fall to them in consecutive drafts is considerable fortune. But if ever a team deserved some....

[Rochesterfan]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Booth is a superior player right now, he is just more polished. I think Gordon has a high ceiling and he could be as good as a Booth, but he will take a bit more time to get there.

 

Totally agree - I actually think Gordon might have a higher ceiling.  I noticed Sal picked Gordon today with Booth on the board based solely him having such a high ceiling - even with Booth being better immediately.

 

 

[Bills Juggernaut]

Really like the pick of Booth at 25. Fills both BPA and need perfectly.  Only other position I would go would have been WR with speed but with the top guys gone, it wouldn’t make sense without a bit of a reach. 

@GunnerBill Do you see any round 2 Wr’s that can fill that role for Buffalo once we pick at 57? Was really liking George Pickens there who fell due to injury but it looks like the rest of the league caught on and don’t  think he makes it out of the first 10 picks of the second round (if not sneaking into the very bottom of the first). 

[LeGOATski]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea he, Linderbaum, Ojabo and Nakobe Dean are all either 1sts or borderline 1sts on my board but don't find a home in the mock. 

 

Hill it is based on the intel that he interviewed very poorly and did not impress on his visits. I have had a couple of good amateur draftnicks in other markets say to me they have heard Lewis Cine is very likely to go ahead of him, which on pure talent is the wrong way around. 

 

Ojabo obviously it is injury, Linderbaum is just so scheme specific he is hard to find a spot for. The guy I felt least comfortable leaving out was Dean. My instinct is that his name does get called somewhere by a team who just goes BPA over strict need. 

Interesting. That's news to me.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Bills Juggernaut said:

Really like the pick of Booth at 25. Fills both BPA and need perfectly.  Only other position I would go would have been WR with speed but with the top guys gone, it wouldn’t make sense without a bit of a reach. 

@GunnerBill Do you see any round 2 Wr’s that can fill that role for Buffalo once we pick at 57? Was really liking George Pickens there who fell due to injury but it looks like the rest of the league caught on and don’t  think he makes it out of the first 10 picks of the second round (if not sneaking into the very bottom of the first). 

 

I like Pickens, Tolbert and Pierce the most of the guys at receiver that I left out of round 1, and in that order! Tolbert might be the most likely to make #57. I love that kid. If he had played for Alabama and not South Alabama I think he'd be at worst in the conversation for end of the first round. 

[TPS]

Having gm'd the Chargers in TBD mock #1, they really need an RT.  There's not much left in your mock, so I wonder if they'd try to jump up to get someone like Penning?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, TPS said:

Having gm'd the Chargers in TBD mock #1, they really need an RT.  There's not much left in your mock, so I wonder if they'd try to jump up to get someone like Penning?

 

A LOT of other mocks I've looked at in the last hour have Davis and Penning the other way around. My thoughts on that are sure, but how does Penning make it past the Saints who need a tackle at #16? So if the Ravens go Davis and the Saints go Penning, maybe the Chargers go receiver?

[Bills Juggernaut]

Which team is most likely to throw the first big curveball of this draft? Every year there seems to be that “Whoa….. what the f***?” moment. 

I wouldn’t put it past Seattle lol. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Bills Juggernaut said:

Which team is most likely to throw the first big curveball of this draft? Every year there seems to be that “Whoa….. what the f***?” moment. 

I wouldn’t put it past Seattle lol. 

 

It's normally Seattle.....

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

It's normally Seattle.....

 

With the 9th pick of the NFL draft the Seattle Seahawks select.... Abraham Lucas, Offensive Lineman, 4th Rounder. 

[Norcalbillsfan]

32 – Detroit Lions – Christian Watson, Wide Receiver, North Dakota State

DJ Chark is currently the Lions #1 receiver. They need to fix that. Christian Watson is a boom or bust prospect but he is renowned as an excellent locker room guy with a first class attitude which I think would appeal to the culture they are trying to build in Detroit.

 

If all quality CBs are gone at 25 and trade back isn't fruitful enough, I wouldn't be upset with the bills gambling on Watsons upside. Seems like he has the attitude to be willing to learn from the best route runner in the nfl in diggs. And at the least as a rookie he could be a streak route burner that makes defenses have to adjust for his speed and size.

[Bray Wyatt]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It's normally Seattle.....

 

With the 9th pick of the NFL draft the Seattle Seahawks select.... Abraham Lucas, Offensive Lineman, 4th Rounder. 

 

And I would hope Roger accounces it the same way you wrote it 😄