Brian Daboll hired to be Head Coach of NY Giants

[Marv's Neighbor]

9 minutes ago, george c said:

If Frazier goes to Miami as a HC, compensatory picks?

We would owe them....big time!

[Meatloaf63]

2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

If you need to make every time McD did something that didn’t work an indictment against him, feel free. I’m simply pointing out that, contrary to your claim, there were times he did help the offense by successfully going for it on and converting 4th downs. 

It doesn’t count when he’s inconsistent and shrivels back into his shell. One more score wins that game and him and Daboll still didn’t trust Allen to win it for them. It’s not the first time they played scared until they had no other choice to let him go.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

This guy is a real source. please no
 

 

yikes.  Wonder who Plan B is. 

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

This guy is a real source. please no
 

 

 

Unpopular opinion but this is the best outcome IMO. We will be forced to hire an external candidate with play calling experience. Allen badly wanted Dorsey so we probably would have hired him if he hadn't already agreed to go with Daboll. Dorsey can get his feet wet somewhere else. This offense is championship caliber now and it deserves a championship caliber OC.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

yikes.  Wonder who Plan B is. 

Chad Hall, perhaps. If not Beane did make mention of looking outside the building as well.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Unpopular opinion but this is the best outcome IMO. We will be forced to hire an external candidate with play calling experience. Allen badly wanted Dorsey so we probably would have hired him if he hadn't already agreed to go with Daboll. Dorsey can get his feet wet somewhere else. This offense is championship caliber now and it deserves a championship caliber OC.

 

Like who though?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I would have rather seen Frazier go and Daboll stay. 

 

Same

[Billsflyer12]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Unpopular opinion but this is the best outcome IMO. We will be forced to hire an external candidate with play calling experience. Allen badly wanted Dorsey so we probably would have hired him if he hadn't already agreed to go with Daboll. Dorsey can get his feet wet somewhere else. This offense is championship caliber now and it deserves a championship caliber OC.

Sure, till that external candidate is Matt Nagy.

[CEN-CAL17]

40 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

No way Dorsey isn’t our next OC.  He’s ready to take the reigns 

I’m a Dorsey fan no doubt…. But what does McD do to ensure an inexperienced OC has someone for him to lean on. McD is a defensive guy. 
 

Dorsey is on an island which is kind of scary. Who should McD bring in to be QB coach and a person to help Dorsey?

[Mark92]

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Funny that people are glad to see Daboll go. I have got to think behind Marchibroda, he was the best OC in the history of the franchise. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Billsflyer12 said:

Sure, till that external candidate is Matt Nagy.

 

Oh hell no

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Like who though?

 

Beane says they have a list, guess we'll find out who's on it

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Like who though?

 

My fantasy hire is Doug Pederson. He coached a Super Bowl offense led by Wentz and Foles. He would be a perfect fit to take a Josh Allen led offense to the next level. It makes sense for him too because this OC job is a stepping stone to a head coaching position.

Edited January 29, 2022 by HappyDays

[bills6969]

Why the F would Dorsey go with Daboll to NY?  Let’s see be the OC w/ Josh Allen or Daniel Jones? Hmmmmm

[Billsflyer12]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Like who though?

Please not Matt Nagy!!!

[GunnerBill]

I am worried McDermott is a bit obsessed with running it more. He is going to hire a stretch zone guy and make the feature of our offense Devin freaking Singletary.

[McBean]

Dorsey going with Daboll.

 

Very smart of him.

 

He see’s the writing on the wall with McClappy.

 

Again, huge failure on Brandon Beane for letting Daboll leave the room.

 

Sad!

[Mopreme]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

My fantasy hire is Doug Pedersen. He coached a Super Bowl offense led by Wentz and Foles. He would be a perfect fit to take a Josh Allen led offense to the next level. It makes sense for him too because this OC job is a stepping stone to a head coaching position.

Thumbs up. I would like that hire too esp if Dorsey leaves. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

My fantasy hire is Doug Pedersen. He coached a Super Bowl offense led by Wentz and Foles. He would be a perfect fit to take a Josh Allen led offense to the next level. It makes sense for him too because this OC job is a stepping stone to a head coaching position.

 

1) rumor has it he and Wentz got in a pissing contest.  I'm not absolving Wentz, but if you're a professional and a football coach, you work it out off the field

2) the Eagles D just plummetted when Pedersen took over as OC/HC

 

IOW....NOT a fan

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

yikes.  Wonder who Plan B is. 

I don’t know but the Bills OC job just became the hottest opening in the league 

[McBean]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Funny that people are glad to see Daboll go. I have got to think behind Marchibroda, he was the best OC in the history of the franchise. 

We let Phil Jackson walk out the door just now and are happy keeping Doug fkn Collins.

[Rico]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Funny that people are glad to see Daboll go. I have got to think behind Marchibroda, he was the best OC in the history of the franchise. 

I'd say the Giants made a better hire with Daboll than the Broncos did with Nate friggin' Hackett.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

My fantasy hire is Doug Pedersen. He coached a Super Bowl offense led by Wentz and Foles. He would be a perfect fit to take a Josh Allen led offense to the next level. It makes sense for him too because this OC job is a stepping stone to a head coaching position.

 

But he is an absolute nightmare of a personality. Not sure I see the mesh with Josh. Carson Wentz hated him. And I mean hated him. Now maybe that is cos he told Carson he was trash (he is) but Allen has had this big brother type relationship with Daboll. 

 

I wouldn't bring Pederson into my organisation. I think the guy is a problem. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

Why the F would Dorsey go with Daboll to NY?  Let’s see be the OC w/ Josh Allen or Daniel Jones? Hmmmmm

 

Not only that but....if Dorsey goes to work as OC under Daboll, the general belief will be that it's Daboll's offense and he's the general factotum

[Turbo44]

Just now, McBean said:

Dorsey going with Daboll.

 

Very smart of him.

 

He see’s the writing on the wall with McClappy.

 

Again, huge failure on Brandon Beane for letting Daboll leave the room.

 

Sad!

What are you talking about? Beane had no choice but to let daboll get a HC job and McDermott is going nowhere, stupid 13 seconds or not.

 

I don’t know who’s out there BUT anybody would die to be OC for Josh Allen. Daboll was mediocre at best before Josh.

[Demongyz]

13 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

Disagree.  No state income tax in Florida. 

Better for the Bills than him going to Miami.  I figure he could turn their crap ass team around.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Davis Webb for OC! 

[Sweats]

Is he taking Frazier with him?

or can we do a 2 for one deal?

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Would love this as well, can’t see McDermott hiring him though. 

 

I honestly don't know how McDermott would feel about him. He isn't afraid to hire former HCs as we found out when he hired Leslie Frazier. He has ties to Philly and might have respect for Pederson, or maybe he's heard enough horror stories about his time there to be wary. All I know is that Pederson was able to orchestrate a championship offense. That's good enough for me.

[prissythecat]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

My fantasy hire is Doug Pederson. He coached a Super Bowl offense led by Wentz and Foles. He would be a perfect fit to take a Josh Allen led offense to the next level. It makes sense for him too because this OC job is a stepping stone to a head coaching position.

 

Wasn't Frank Reich the OC when the Eagles won the Superbowl?      Doug Pederson didn't do so hot after Frank left and got canned pretty quickly

[Mark92]

I worry Mike Shula is gonna get interviewed.  He was the Panthers OC in Super Bowl 50 with Cam.  FML

[Mat68]

4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I think everyone has this fear. I still don’t think the guy gets how ***** good Josh is and how the offense should revolve around him in every aspect…. Those two stalled drives against KC are a perfect example. 

And Mcdermott made those 2 run calls back to back?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I honestly don't know how McDermott would feel about him. He isn't afraid to hire former HCs as we found out when he hired Leslie Frazier. He has ties to Philly and might have respect for Pederson, or maybe he's heard enough horror stories about his time there to be wary. All I know is that Pederson was able to orchestrate a championship offense. That's good enough for me.

 

There is the Andy Reid connection obviously. But spending 5 years building a culture and then hiring Doug Pederson is like spending 5 years building a wooden house then spilling petrol and lighting a match.

[Nuncha]

I can't see him as a HC but best of luck to him, except for when we play NYG.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

I cannot say that I'm gonna miss Daboll one bit.

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But he is an absolute nightmare of a personality. Not sure I see the mesh with Josh. Carson Wentz hated him. And I mean hated him. Now maybe that is cos he told Carson he was trash (he is) but Allen has had this big brother type relationship with Daboll. 

 

I wouldn't bring Pederson into my organisation. I think the guy is a problem. 

 

Daboll was rough with Allen his first year here. Allen talks about it all the time. He'd be fine. It's not like Pederson needs to clean up Allen, just take over a championship caliber offense and don't screw it up. Maybe his personality isn't good for a head coach, but a lot of great coordinators don't make good head coaches. And he still has that Super Bowl ring to show for it.

[Billsflyer12]

We will see about Dorsey.  Giants as OC, not calling plays, with Daniel Jones or Bills OC, calling plays with Josh Allen?
 

If he goes to Giants, that is either a huge indictment of McD or of Dorsey in eyes of the Bills.

Edited January 29, 2022 by Billsflyer12

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Good luck Brian you are going from a QB who may just be the best player in football to arguably the worst quarterback in his division.  
Depends on your opinion of Tyler Heineke who honestly has better games then anything Jones has had in his career.

i see it as a 2017 Bills situation. Daboll will draft his guy the following year if Jones doesn’t take a massive leap.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Daboll was rough with Allen his first year here. Allen talks about it all the time. He'd be fine. It's not like Pederson needs to clean up Allen, just take over a championship caliber offense and don't screw it up. Maybe his personality isn't good for a head coach, but a lot of great coordinators don't make good head coaches. And he still has that Super Bowl ring to show for it.

 

I think he can call plays. But personally from the stories I have heard, I wouldn't hire him to wipe down the gym much less interact with players.