YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Edited January 25, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I was hoping this was going to come with his resignation 6 18 3 1 2 1 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reed83HOF Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Sure seems like it Bass... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Sure seems like it Bass... Well he does resemble Scott Norwood a lot. 😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I think Mcd would take responsibility if they just decided to kick it deep. I also think Mcd won't throw anyone under the bus if someone messed up. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Well he does resemble Scott Norwood a lot. 😔 F You 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Sure seems like it Bass... I'm actually thinking its was more the ST coaches that called the play. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I think Mcd would take responsibility if they just decided to kick it deep. I also think Mcd won't throw anyone under the bus if someone messed up. Clearly he is since he keeps saying it's an execution thing. It's like that episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where Ted Danson is an "anonymous" donor at a charity event but everyone knows it's him because he implied it, but they're all talking about what a great guy he is because it says anonymous. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 That was a painfu PC. It left me questioning McDermott more. he wants to take the ball out of Allens hands more and turn around and hand it off. {VOMITS} 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm actually thinking its was more the ST coaches that called the play. McD is clearly involved in making that decision at that point in the game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Just move on from Frazier. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 “ We pride ourselves in detail and being great in situational football.” That is the biggest kick in the gut right there. Shameful pride. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SWATeam said: McD is clearly involved in making that decision at that point in the game. Communication from ST coach to player, not decision 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SWATeam said: McD is clearly involved in making that decision at that point in the game. Maybe. But that's your opinion. Maybe he doesn't micromanage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I'm confused? You get the ST together & tell them "We're kicking it short/squib kicking it, stay in your lanes". How much more could it be? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: That was a painfu PC. It left me questioning McDermott more. he wants to take the ball out of Allens hands more and turn around and hand it off. {VOMITS} McDermott has said this all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryS Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 yeah, McD's mouth muscles needed to execute the command "Squib kick" to the special teams. it is shameful how he won't accept responsibility and publicly apologize to the city, the fans, and the team. shame! 1 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Maybe. But that's your opinion. Maybe he doesn't micromanage. You think Andy Reid didn't have any input in last 13 secs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: You think Andy Reid didn't have any input in last 13 secs? Seems like his players called the play though. Mahomes and Kelce. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Did McDermott take any responsibility for not stopping the Chiefs in 13 seconds. Why the free releases off the line? Why not flooding passing lanes with more defenders? Didn't listen to PC. Were any of those questions asked? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, harryS said: yeah, McD's mouth muscles needed to execute the command "Squib kick" to the special teams. it is shameful how he won't accept responsibility and publicly apologize to the city, the fans, and the team. shame! He's never been wrong, but he admits "they need to get better". Same old story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Maybe. But that's your opinion. Maybe he doesn't micromanage. That's not what micromanaging means though. He's the head coach, he absolutely should be part of all those decisions. Micromanaging is a daily thing, like if he didn't allow the coaches any kind of freedom on a day to day basis with the players. It's his job, just like every head coach, to be part of everything on gameday. It's kind of like how I felt Pete Carroll somehow avoided the kind of vitriol Darrell Bevell did for their horrible play call in the SB against the Pats when Carroll was involved and didn't object to it. It's ultimately on the head coach for me, they're the head coach for a reason. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: That was a painfu PC. It left me questioning McDermott more. he wants to take the ball out of Allens hands more and turn around and hand it off. {VOMITS} You’re too deeply into this. Take a break, give it some time and if it helps remmeber the time Buddy drafted CJ Spiller so Chan could have a shiny new toy. You know, the good old days. 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 When he continues to say execution I think he is putting blame on the entire team not an individual. Like it was chaos that last 13 seconds but it shouldn't have gotten to that point Like was kicking it out of bounds a mistake? if it was you still only have 13 seconds to kill. You should still be able to do that But the word execution does scare me that McDermott doesn't know or doesn't think mistakes strategically were made. Which there were many in that 13 seconds 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, harryS said: yeah, McD's mouth muscles needed to execute the command "Squib kick" to the special teams. it is shameful how he won't accept responsibility and publicly apologize to the city, the fans, and the team. shame! I think it's shameful how fans turn coat and trash the coaches "anyone would be better" blah blah All of a sudden everyone's a defensive football genius. I know you're not saying that here, but it's right in line with people who are. He's accepted responsibility at least a dozen times at this point "execution....starts with me". If McDermott stood on the steps of City Hall and said "I publicly apologize to the city of Buffalo and the Erie County area, the fans of the Bills, and the Buffalo Bills" you guys would be saying "yeah, but he didn't do it wearing a hair shirt and whipping himself" I don't want him to apologize. I want him to learn from this experience, and do better. 12 1 6 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: When he continues to say execution I think he is putting blame on the entire team not an individual. Like it was chaos that last 13 seconds but it shouldn't have gotten to that point Like was kicking it out of bounds a mistake? if it was you still only have 13 seconds to kill. You should still be able to do that But the word execution does scare me that McDermott doesn't know or doesn't think mistakes strategically were made. Which there were many in that 13 seconds Given how gassed the D was, with 20/20 retrovision, we probably should have gone for two after the last TD. Four point lead likely safe and the risk/reward against a tired Chief's D flips the burden. If you miss, Bills play a much more aggressive D because they know a FG can beat them. Edited January 25, 2022 by Dr. Who 4 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 He’s right. The players had all game to execute and they failed miserably. Too many missed tackles. Too much crappy play on defense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I hope someone tapped his nose with a newspaper and said bad Sean bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: You think Andy Reid didn't have any input in last 13 secs? Prove he did. G'head. I'll wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I'm confused? You get the ST together & tell them "We're kicking it short/squib kicking it, stay in your lanes". How much more could it be? I think the plan was to kick it short of the end zone, and when Bass kicked it I felt like he did take something off of it trying to do that, but he still put too much on it and it went into the endzone. You don't want a true squib there because that gives them too many free yards. You want to kick it down to like the 5 yard line and force them to return it. I think that was the plan but Bass didn't take enough off of it. I know what Bass will be practicing in the off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: That's not what micromanaging means though. He's the head coach, he absolutely should be part of all those decisions. Micromanaging is a daily thing, like if he didn't allow the coaches any kind of freedom on a day to day basis with the players. It's his job, just like every head coach, to be part of everything on gameday. It's kind of like how I felt Pete Carroll somehow avoided the kind of vitriol Darrell Bevell did for their horrible play call in the SB against the Pats when Carroll was involved and didn't object to it. It's ultimately on the head coach for me, they're the head coach for a reason. Ultimately yes it falls on the head coach. However sometimes you think that you're on the same wavelength as someone else and they zig when you zag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, MJS said: I think the plan was to kick it short of the end zone, and when Bass kicked it I felt like he did take something off of it trying to do that, but he still put too much on it and it went into the endzone. You don't want a true squib there because that gives them too many free yards. You want to kick it down to like the 5 yard line and force them to return it. I think that was the plan but Bass didn't take enough off of it. I know what Bass will be practicing in the off-season. Bull.... All season Bass did the short run for kicks to be returned. He put his full leg into it. This is what you practice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Sure seems like it Bass... I think McDermott is throwing him under the bus…Shameful. No way did McDermott order a short kick… 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: Bull.... All season Bass did the short run for kicks to be returned. He put his full leg into it. This is what you practice. I don't believe he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 So basically we need to make this dummy defensive cordinator look good and draft more defensive players only lose not by 13 seconds but to lose by 15 seconds. We only did that the last 5 years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think it's shameful how fans turn coat and trash the coaches "anyone would be better" blah blah All of a sudden everyone's a defensive football genius. I know you're not saying that here, but it's right in line with people who are. He's accepted responsibility at least a dozen times at this point "execution....starts with me". If McDermott stood on the steps of City Hall and said "I publicly apologize to the city of Buffalo, the fans of the Bills, and the Buffalo Bills" you guys would be saying "yeah, but he didn't do it wearing a hair shirt and whipping himself" I don't want him to apologize. I want him to learn from this experience, and do better. He really hasn't gotten better in 5 years, I'm not sure what's going to change now. He coached scared in last year's game in KC as well. He's still horrible with timeout usage 5 years later. He still has that deer in the headlights look in the biggest moments of the game and screwed up with the squib and the scheme late. Also 5 years in and his D can't come up with a big stop late. This is also so much about preparation. Just like his first year vs the Colts when he didn't know that a tie would have eliminated us from the playoffs and punted late, he wasn't prepared for the 4th and short decisions last year and wasn't prepared for the late situation this year. Credit to him for being part of the decision to draft #17, no doubt about that. But if we stop holding the standard to comparing this team to the teams of the drought and look at it in the sense of what can we do to maximize this time we have with an elite QB, I'd want a coach that matches the preparation and fearlessness of Josh. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, mannc said: I think McDermott is throwing him under the bus…Shameful. No way did McDermott order a short kick… Or Farwell. All he's saying is they didn't execute. That doesn't necessarily mean it was Bass. Could be the plan was to Squib, Farwell didn't relay it correctly. Failed execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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