Week 18: Jets at Bills - a W wins the AFC East!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, Rubes said:

I’d keep an eye on Berrios…

 

Sounds like a breakfast cereal 

[JMF2006]

10 hours ago, Process said:

Their number 1 WR is some guy named Berrios.

 

Believe their only good RB got a concussion today.

 

Can't see the Bills struggling vs a garbage team two weeks in a row. 

 

Seems like a game the Bills win by 35, to be honest.

 

Josh will be pissed after yesterday and a pissed off Josh is not what the Jets want to see.

 

Coming off arguably his best ever performance vs the Pats we got Sugar High Josh yesterday.

 

He will be way more focused this week after that near disaster.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I don't like the 4:15 start. The winds will be picking up.

Aha...it all fits...you're Dave Roberts / Dave Thomas / Dave Boreanaz!  Former Buffalo TV host / weather guy who moved to Philly. 🤔😁

[Greg S]

I was at the Jets game yesterday and they gave the Bucs all they could handle. Wilson reminds me of Allen in his rookie year. Struggled a lot but showed flashes of having the "it" factor. If the Jets (THIS IS A BIG IF) can actually develop him correctly and put a team around him like the Bills did with Allen then he will become the 2nd best QB in the division. He will be better than Tua and Jones if the Jets don't "F" it up. This will not be an easy game. They would love nothing more than to stick it to a long time rival and hurt our chances at the division. As for betting I would take the Jets and 17 points. The Bills should win but not by 17 IMHO.

 

P.S. The Brown meltdown was crazy to watch. He ran across the end zone where my seats are located. Fans were giving it to him pretty good as he was leaving the field.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

All I want is a W, and 22 healthy starters in the locker room at the end of the game.  

[stevestojan]

Just now, Coffeesforclosers said:

All I want is a W, and 22 healthy starters in the locker room at the end of the game.  

Honestly, the latter is more important to me right now. 

[Beerball]

41 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Josh will be pissed after yesterday and a pissed off Josh is not what the Jets want to see.

 

Coming off arguably his best ever performance vs the Pats we got Sugar High Josh yesterday.

 

He will be way more focused this week after that near disaster.

I disagree. Calm Josh is Good Josh. Hopefully his pregame tunes put him in a nice mellow mood.

[aristocrat]

any word on bates today?

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 minute ago, Beerball said:

I disagree. Calm Josh is Good Josh. Hopefully his pregame tunes put him in a nice mellow mood.

I think over the course of the game I want Zen Josh from the commercial.

 

But for 1 yard on 1 play I want Angry Josh. 

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, aristocrat said:

any word on bates today?

If we do get any info today it probably will be later on sometime. I doubt you'll hear anything this early...

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, Beerball said:

I disagree. Calm Josh is Good Josh. Hopefully his pregame tunes put him in a nice mellow mood.

 

Agree. He needs to take a lesson from Rodgers and how he plays the games. Rodgers looks like he doesn't have a care in the world out there. He is cool and calm out there. Goes thru his reads, progressions and is usually deadly accurate. He makes it (playing QB) look so easy. He is not only one of the best QB's in the league today but one of the best all time.

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Agree. He needs to take a lesson from Rodgers and how he plays the games. Rodgers looks like he doesn't have a care in the world out there. He is cool and calm out there. Goes thru his reads, progressions and is usually deadly accurate. He makes it (playing QB) look so easy. He is not only one of the best QB's in the league today but one of the best all time.

I have no doubt Josh will get to that point. Kinda have to keep in mind the amount of experience Rodgers has while Josh is a young bull. Hopefully Josh will be here for as long as Rodgers has in GB if we get lucky.

 

 

[Ray Stonada]

4 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I have no doubt Josh will get to that point. Kinda have to keep in mind the amount of experience Rodgers has while Josh is a young bull. Hopefully Josh will be here for as long as Rodgers has in GB if we get lucky.

 

 

Yeah! Love to hear this.

 

Rodgers is definitely playing the game at some kind of wizard level.

[RunTheBall]

13 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Agree. He needs to take a lesson from Rodgers and how he plays the games. Rodgers looks like he doesn't have a care in the world out there. He is cool and calm out there. Goes thru his reads, progressions and is usually deadly accurate. He makes it (playing QB) look so easy. He is not only one of the best QB's in the league today but one of the best all time.

I agree, and even Roger's has had some pretty crappy games over his career. I'm not saying Josh had a horrible game btw, he just wasn't as on in the passing game as we'd like him to be. The beautiful thing is he didn't get frustrated, just found another way to win. I'm happy we showed we can win a game without Josh being Superstar Passing Josh and that a sub-par statistical game doesn't bring out all the "OMG HE'S REGRESSING" crap we've seen before. 

[Greg S]

14 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I have no doubt Josh will get to that point. Kinda have to keep in mind the amount of experience Rodgers has while Josh is a young bull. Hopefully Josh will be here for as long as Rodgers has in GB if we get lucky.

 

 

 

Allen has a lot of "Favre" in him. He's got the gambler mentality. Josh is great and I wouldn't trade him for anyone. He is the face of the franchise and will probably win a Lombardi or two for Buffalo when its all said and done. But plays like the INT he threw when the Bills were threating to extend their lead at 14-5 drive me nuts. If the play isn't there just throw it away. Bass probably makes the FG and then you have 17-5. Falcons probably don't come back and grab the lead at halftime if they make it 17-5.

Edited January 3, 2022 by Greg S

[Steptide]

The first 28 mins of yesterday's game, Josh looked great. Was completing balls all over. Then for whatever reason, he started throwing terrible passes. I thought he was throwing his passes too hard, and I wonder if someone told him not to zip them so much and that somehow threw his game off, and he started over thinking his passes, which led to interceptions 

[Nitro]

The 17 point spread is ridiculous.   The Jets are not running for the bus.  This team should have won yesterday and are  not to be taken lightly.   

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, Nitro said:

The 17 point spread is ridiculous.   The Jets are not running for the bus.  This team should have won yesterday and are  not to be taken lightly.   

It’s a big number. But I think they may be running for the bus more on Sunday night in Buffalo then they were yesterday afternoon at home. They’ve played much better at home this year than on the road and the Bucs looked like they were sleepwalking, didn’t seem to put a lot into that game. Rookie Qb with a bad team hours from their off-season vs this bills D in OP and a team very motivated to win the division could be ugly. 

[Nitro]

22 minutes ago, Steptide said:

The first 28 mins of yesterday's game, Josh looked great. Was completing balls all over. Then for whatever reason, he started throwing terrible passes. I thought he was throwing his passes too hard, and I wonder if someone told him not to zip them so much and that somehow threw his game off, and he started over thinking his passes, which led to interceptions 

I will opine that he was seeing his passes bouncing off his receivers hands and was trying to alter his throws. So we agree and that got him in trouble.  The INT in the end zone was a great defensive play.  Those happen.  

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s a big number. But I think they may be running for the bus more on Sunday night in Buffalo then they were yesterday afternoon at home. They’ve played much better at home this year than on the road and the Bucs looked like they were sleepwalking, didn’t seem to put a lot into that game. Rookie Qb with a bad team hours from their off-season vs this bills D in OP and a team very motivated to win the division could be ugly. 

TB have been sleeping walking since the Bills game.  It was a walk up call that they have not responded to.  One worry.  The Bills have struggled at home this season.

 

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, Nitro said:

I will opine that he was seeing his passes bouncing off his receivers hands and was trying to alter his throws. So we agree and that got him in trouble.  The INT in the end zone was a great defensive play.  Those happen.  

TB have been sleeping walking since the Bills game.  It was a walk up call that they have not responded to.  One worry.  The Bills have struggled at home this season.

 

The Bills haven’t struggled at home vs bad teams. Their losses - Pitt, Indy, NE - came to teams without losing records. Their 5 wins at home were all by at least 2 TDs. The jets are a very bad, 4-12 team that has 1 road win (Texans). I still wouldn’t take that number but wouldn’t be surprised if they cover. 

Edited January 3, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[BuffaloBillyG]

I think I speak for everyone here when I say "Eff the Jests." Worst fan base in the NFL. 

 

They try and cling to a Super Bowl win over 50 years ago (that most of their fans base wasn't even alive for) like it's relevant to today's teams. 

 

You know the difference between a Jests fan and a baby? The baby stops crying after a while.

 

The only difference between a Jests fan and a bucket of cow manure is the bucket.
 

You know the difference between a Robert Saleh defense and Marlboro? Josh Allen doesn't smoke Marlboro.

 

The ONLY thing I can get behind when it comes to the Jets is Zach Wilson's mom. Matter of fact, his new name is Stacy Wilson because his mom has got it going on.

 

Bills winning this one BIG. 37-13.

 

[Nitro]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Bills haven’t struggled at home vs bad teams. Their losses - Pitt, Indy, NE - came to teams without losing records. The jets are a very bad, 4-12 team that has zero road wins. I still wouldn’t take that number but wouldn’t be surprised if they cover. 

I was at the Miami game.  It was a struggle.  Receivers not getting separation.  Soft defense pass coverage. O line getting pushed around.  They struggled yesterday against a Atlanta defense that is average at best.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Nitro said:

I was at the Miami game.  It was a struggle.  Receivers not getting separation.  Soft defense pass coverage. O line getting pushed around.  They struggled yesterday against a Atlanta defense that is average at best.

What they struggle with? Other than the INT's the Bills moved the ball at will and Falcons couldn't stop it. Oline looked good too

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Nitro said:

I was at the Miami game.  It was a struggle.  Receivers not getting separation.  Soft defense pass coverage. O line getting pushed around.  They struggled yesterday against a Atlanta defense that is average at best.

I think we just have different definitions of “struggled” … Nbd

[CaliBills]

42 minutes ago, Steptide said:

The first 28 mins of yesterday's game, Josh looked great. Was completing balls all over. Then for whatever reason, he started throwing terrible passes. I thought he was throwing his passes too hard, and I wonder if someone told him not to zip them so much and that somehow threw his game off, and he started over thinking his passes, which led to interceptions 

 

I actually thought the same thing, Like Diggs talking to Allen after dropping the ball that his hands in the end zone saying " hey bro, ease up, these balls feel like they are made of stone right now" 

 

 

[Greg S]

4 minutes ago, Nitro said:

I was at the Miami game.  It was a struggle.  Receivers not getting separation.  Soft defense pass coverage. O line getting pushed around.  They struggled yesterday against a Atlanta defense that is average at best.

 

Had over 300 yards overall and more than 200 yards rushing. If Allen doesn't throw that INT when it was 14-5 then the Bills most likely make it 17-5 and the Falcons never recover. They have things to work on and clean up but the offense was fine as they were moving the ball up and down the field.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

What they struggle with? Other than the INT's the Bills moved the ball at will and Falcons couldn't stop it. Oline looked good too

They struggled passing the ball.  It was obvious. 11/26 120 3 ints.  Come on man, you know this

[CincyBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, Nitro said:

I was at the Miami game.  It was a struggle.  Receivers not getting separation.  Soft defense pass coverage. O line getting pushed around.  They struggled yesterday against a Atlanta defense that is average at best.

Is that the same Miami team that went on to win 7 straight games after their loss in Buffalo?

 

 

[Thriftygamer83]

Bot out victory, Buffalo will cap off a 45-0 win, winning a second AFC East Champs titlee, and New England will lose to the Dolphins by three.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

They struggled passing the ball.  It was obvious. 11/26 120 3 ints.  Come on man, you know this

Idk man... they moved the ball every series on offense and made it look easy. As I said, other than the INT's, they had their way with ATL...

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I have no doubt Josh will get to that point. Kinda have to keep in mind the amount of experience Rodgers has while Josh is a young bull. Hopefully Josh will be here for as long as Rodgers has in GB if we get lucky.

 

 

I'm scratching my head at all the fans wanting Allen to be more like Rogers!  Sure that's a laudable goal but there is a slight difference in age, like 12 freaking years.  Some things have to be learned through EXPERIENCE and yesterday was just part of the long journey Allen is on. But it's beyond unrealistic to think Allen should be right behind Rogers on this path.  He's way behind Rogers now but if he stays healthy he'll match him sooner rather then later.

 

 

 

 

[Nineforty]

Has a win ever felt more polarizing as to how good it was or wasnt? I am in the camp of Josh played a good game. Throwing as well. Not great. Not subpar. Good.

 

And reasonable folks seem to disagree. Idk.

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Idk man... they moved the ball every series on offense and made it look easy. As I said, other than the INT's, they had their way with ATL...

 

 

They moved the ball. They didn’t pass well at all. Minus the ints and josh still had a bad game throwing the ball. It was pretty obvious to me.  

[Greg S]

Just now, Nineforty said:

Has a win ever felt more polarizing as to how good it was or wasnt? I am in the camp of Josh played a good game. Throwing as well. Not great. Not subpar. Good.

 

And reasonable folks seem to disagree. Idk.

 

What is most encouraging is the running game. Sure Allen had bad numbers yesterday and that will have to improve in the post season to have a chance at the Super Bowl. But an improved running game should make Allen much more dangerous and harder to defend going forward.

[Coffeesforclosers]

It's good that the Bills have game film like what they put up yesterday.

 

Nobody expects Buffalo to run the ball 35+ times for 200+ yards and 4TDs.  

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think we just have different definitions of “struggled” … Nbd

I think the better thing to say is we haven't looked like the best version of the Bills at home. The final scores mostly look fine, but getting there has been more of an adventure than it probably should have been in a number of cases.

[Thriftygamer83]

38 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Idk man... they moved the ball every series on offense and made it look easy. As I said, other than the INT's, they had their way with ATL...

 

 

Josh watched as the balls bounced off of receivers hands or even when they had it in their gut.  So, we went run heavy and that had a much better ROI.  It also sent a message for the Bills that they receiving corps has to wake up and start doing what they were paid for and traded for.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

They struggled passing the ball.  It was obvious. 11/26 120 3 ints.  Come on man, you know this

They did. The 2nd quarter was especially bad. No way to deny that.

 

However, as much as people want to view the Bills as the "Buffalo Josh Allen's" and say he is the only hope...it is still and always will be a team game.

 

For me, it was actually refreshing to see that we can win a game where Allen is off, the passing game is out of sync and we need to make adjustments. I've been a Daboll basher for most of his time here, however give Ol' Bertrum his due...he made the call to switch to the run game and roll with that. The Falcons knew we were going to run and couldn't stop it. He called a heckuva 2nd half after nearly blowing it in the 1st half with cutesy and cocky playcalling.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by No Place To Hyde

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

They struggled passing the ball.  It was obvious. 11/26 120 3 ints.  Come on man, you know this

They struggled passing the ball. They didn’t struggle to win.