RoyBatty is alive Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, corta765 said: The Steelers, Phins, & Jags games all had a common theme of a team that under estimated their opposition and thought they would just win because they are talented. I agree I thought the Phins game would've got the offense to say "crap we really need to tighten up" but it didn't. Agreed, I was also going to include the Steelers game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Agree, I am listening right now, and it's mostly this message - the 2021 Bills haven't been physical enough, disciplined enough. It feels like McDermott is going to take the reigns more on offense and he's going to make a concerted effort to run more. But was this Press Conference any different than the usual? Not really, nothing specific. There is nowhere to turn on the offensive line personnel, and I don't think Gilliam can provide anything as a fullback, so I expect it to look pretty ineffective actually. I agree with most of this, except the part of expecting the offense to look pretty ineffective. I don't think what we saw on Sunday is going to be the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Sean McDermott won’t go into strategy, but says #Bills must run ball better if they want to be team they want to be. Notes to go all the way back to end of last season with struggles. Adds he thought run game would’ve been improved by now. No kidding, the line needs to do better but i think we also should give Antonio Williams a shot over two guys they have now Moss and Singletary, when given a crack, rarely do much with it. Neither excels in moving a pile either. We have 2 RBs that would be a 3 on most teams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Moss and Singletary, when given a crack, rarely do much with it. Neither excels in moving a pile either. We have 2 RBs that would be a 3 on most teams. Thanks, unless your football blind you would miss that, both are average players and more than likely one of both will be out of the league before their second contracts. I hope Sean's changes mean giving someone else a chance, like Sean said this has been a issue since last season. Beane himself said it's a problem after the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: looked up PFF stats - Dawkins has 7 penalties tied for second most in the league - he and Morse are our highest rated OL - with grades in the 60s - with Brown next with Feliciano who has not given up a sack. Teller grades in the high 80s. PFF has Cody Ford graded the highest offensive player on the Bills week 9. 🤡 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, RyanC883 said: likely a lot of nonsense coach talk. and if i ever hear say "they wanted it more than us," whoever on the team/or staff wanted it "less", should be fired/benched instantly. You're a pro athlete, no excuse for that. it's the cliche saying players/coaches use when they have no clue what happened. The talk is noteworthy because it is precisely the opposite of what you reference. Sal Capaccio said it was the most frank and honest McDermott has ever been. I haven't had a chance to listen myself yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, RyanC883 said: likely a lot of nonsense coach talk. and if i ever hear say "they wanted it more than us," whoever on the team/or staff wanted it "less", should be fired/benched instantly. You're a pro athlete, no excuse for that. it's the cliche saying players/coaches use when they have no clue what happened. I'd rather listen to Beth Mowins announcing a table tennis game, while I am having a migraine headache, than read your takes about the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: PFF has Cody Ford graded the highest offensive player on the Bills week 9. 🤡 They want us to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorgus Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 40 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Moss and Singletary, when given a crack, rarely do much with it. Neither excels in moving a pile either. We have 2 RBs that would be a 3 on most teams. Really makes me miss Frank Gore just running through the line and dragging half the defense with him down the field. It's like when my one friend would go in a mosh pit. He didn't swing his arms or anything. He just ran back and forth through the crowd like they were water because he was so damn BIG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Yeah it's not a good tone, it's almost like he's publicly conceding the issue isn't just about effort/execution but this organization as a whole grossly miscalculated the talent on this roster and what is shaping up to be an epic failure to bring back pretty much the same team from last year that fell short of the SB and wasn't even competitive in their final game. This is why the season is pretty much on the line this week, you lose to the Jets and Mike White things will go further south quickly and you'll see the defense start to pack it in so to speak once they know this offense is truly toast and can't move the ball or score anymore. The knee jerk reactions are hilarious...it was a bad game and thats it...we were missing 2 key players on the line and the backups missed a ton of blocks..lots of the pressure was simply mental mistakes by the oline..i expect the problems will be fixed come sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: PFF has Cody Ford graded the highest offensive player on the Bills week 9. 🤡 Seems like every week those jokesters through something absurd out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: If I didn't listen how would I feel that he sound beat up and it was depressing, you think I just guessed? Regardless, I obviously disagree it is a "Bad Take". Well, not listening hasn't stopped others from opining....you could also have just listened to a few minutes. We can most certainly agree to disagree 41 minutes ago, Beast said: I'd rather listen to Beth Mowins announcing a table tennis game, while I am having a migraine headache, than read your takes about the Bills. There is this helpful feature called the "ignore" function which will prevent you from reading his takes. It won't help with Beth Mowins and the table tennis game though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Amorgus said: Really makes me miss Frank Gore just running through the line and dragging half the defense with him down the field. It's like when my one friend would go in a mosh pit. He didn't swing his arms or anything. He just ran back and forth through the crowd like they were water because he was so damn BIG. His year with us, Gore averaged 3.6 ypa. That average of 3.6 ypa was comprised of games 3-6, where he averaged 5.3 ypa, games 2 and 7 where he had 3.6 and 3.8 ypa, and then games 8-14 where he averaged 2.1 ypa (and that's inflated by a single game; many were 1.22 or 1.5 ypa) So, I'm not quite sure what exactly you're missing. Halfway through the season, Gore was cooked and it was painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Hearing all this stuff about how the bills seem to be "all buisness" this week makes me wonder if they'll change their PR a little. Meaning less player interaction with fans and less fun and games. I don't think this would necessarily be a bad thing, just wondering if McDermott will go to that extent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, corta765 said: The Steelers, Phins, & Jags games all had a common theme of a team that under estimated their opposition and thought they would just win because they are talented. I agree I thought the Phins game would've got the offense to say "crap we really need to tighten up" but it didn't. I think it goes a little deeper. I think the gameplan for all three games was based on: 1) our strategy for success will focus heavily on the passing game 2) we don't have to marshal a capable rush threat to beat them 3) our OL will hold up to give us time to pass - if they blitz and play man, Allen will pick them apart; if they rush 4, we'll protect long enough for the deep routes and a shifty slot guy like Beasley to work open. The thinking after the Pittsburgh game was, OK, Pittsburgh has an exceptional DL. Maybe we have to run (1,0) and empty sets less and (1,1) and (1,2) sets more so we can protect, but Pittsburgh has an exceptional DL and Tomlin spent his summer vacation studying how to beat us. But other teams who have good but not great DLs have figured out that our OL doesn't seem able to handle twists and stunts and they can get home with it while running 2 high safeties and flooding the middle of the field where Allen was deadly last season. Just my thoughts. 1 hour ago, First Round Bust said: looked up PFF stats - Dawkins has 7 penalties tied for second most in the league - he and Morse are our highest rated OL - with grades in the 60s - with Brown next with Feliciano who has not given up a sack. Teller grades in the high 80s. I mean whoopie, but someone posted Ford was their highest graded OLman in the Jags game, and that's so absurd that I can't exactly put a lot of weight in their OL grading system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's nice to know you can summarize the presser without bothering to listen to it. You should be accorded all the credit you deserve for this take. 1 hour ago, Beast said: I'd rather listen to Beth Mowins announcing a table tennis game, while I am having a migraine headache, than read your takes about the Bills. 40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: There is this helpful feature called the "ignore" function which will prevent you from reading his takes. It won't help with Beth Mowins and the table tennis game though Well, I was just according him all the credit he deserves for his take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Rico said: Why TF would he be beaten and weary from one bad midseason loss? He's not, we have idiots roaming TBD lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Billever76 said: The knee jerk reactions are hilarious...it was a bad game and thats it...we were missing 2 key players on the line and the backups missed a ton of blocks..lots of the pressure was simply mental mistakes by the oline..i expect the problems will be fixed come sunday But our line is bad. Regardless of Spencer Brown and John Feliciano, our line is bad. Allen makes it look alright most of the time because he is so mobile. After Week One, the line was Pittsburgh is unique, nobody can do that. That has been proven false. A lot of teams can collapse our line. The Bills have 3-losses now, with the offensive line playing a key role in all of them. Can’t just write it off anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Amorgus said: Really makes me miss Frank Gore just running through the line and dragging half the defense with him down the field. It's like when my one friend would go in a mosh pit. He didn't swing his arms or anything. He just ran back and forth through the crowd like they were water because he was so damn BIG. We need a back with power and speed! Good analogy my friend. Oh those mosh pit days lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Agree, I am listening right now, and it's mostly this message - the 2021 Bills haven't been physical enough, disciplined enough. It feels like McDermott is going to take the reigns more on offense and he's going to make a concerted effort to run more. But was this Press Conference any different than the usual? Not really, nothing specific. There is nowhere to turn on the offensive line personnel, and I don't think Gilliam can provide anything as a fullback, so I expect it to look pretty ineffective actually. The Bills came into the game with the top scoring offense in the league. So why is it now impossible for their offense to be effective? People are acting like it is impossible for this team to recover from the Jags game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Thanks, unless your football blind you would miss that, both are average players and more than likely one of both will be out of the league before their second contracts. I hope Sean's changes mean giving someone else a chance, like Sean said this has been a issue since last season. Beane himself said it's a problem after the season The RB situation is very bad. I agree, both backs time in Buffalo appears to be short and their NFL career as a whole wont be long. I think it is safe to say we have the worst backfield in the league or very close to worst. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Agree, I am listening right now, and it's mostly this message - the 2021 Bills haven't been physical enough, disciplined enough. It feels like McDermott is going to take the reigns more on offense and he's going to make a concerted effort to run more. But was this Press Conference any different than the usual? Not really, nothing specific. There is nowhere to turn on the offensive line personnel, and I don't think Gilliam can provide anything as a fullback, so I expect it to look pretty ineffective actually. Completely agree with this takeaway from the PC. The man was a national champion wrestler in high school. You don't think he is emphasizing that each player must win their one-on-one battles ("do your job" in Pats*** speak)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: To be honest I haven't listened to every press conference this year, but considering the circumstances I didn't expect McD to sound like everything is peaches and roses. But what I observed you can tell the pressure is real especially since you had last week's opponent calling out this team for basically not giving a crap and that starts with the head coach obviously. But again let's not pretend this is isolated to last week. The warning signs have been there since week one when this decided not to show up for their home opener despite all offseason to prepare and play in front of 80K fans again. And then again coming out of a bye week when you lost a tough game on national television you'd think they'd be ready and motivated to send a message again at home but they waiting until the 4th quarter to show up and were lucky to win. Bottom line it's time for the 2021 Bills to finally show what they are but sadly they may be exactly what we've seen the last 2 weeks. Bad things that happened this time last year : Got blown out by Titans and Chiefs Almost lost to the Fitzpatrick led Dolphins Beat the 2-14 Jets 18-10 Almost lost a 25 point lead to the Rams Almost lost to the Cam Newton led Patriots if it weren't for a last minute fumble Bad things that happened this year so far: Upset against the Steelers Tough close loss against the Titans Upset against the Jaguars I don't know. I find us to be doing better this year. Did it suck to lose to a team like the Jaguars? Sure. I don't think we are worse than last year though. We have dominated most of our opponents. I know it doesn't pass the vaunted eye test but we clearly are. Of course that is "only" because of the QB's we faced this year right? 🤔 Yeah right. These guys: Sam Darnold Ryan Fitzpatrick Jared Goff Derek Carr Ryan Tannehill Patrick Mahomes Sam Darnold Cam Newton Aren't a whole lot better than these guys at this point: Ben Roethlisberger Tua Tagovailoa / Jacoby Brissett Taylor Heinicke Davis Mills Patrick Mahomes Ryan Tannehill Tua Tagovailoa Trevor Lawrence Edited November 11, 2021 by What a Tuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. This Team needs to grow up fast! Too much clowning around during the week. Too much sitting around during the game on the sideline. This is way less about skill level and way more about heart and desire. The Bills roster is head and shoulders above the Jaguars and yet, if you include the first half of the Miami game, the Bills have now been sleepwalking for seven out of eight quarters since the Bye Week. Unacceptable. Fix it, Coach! I've said it on here before and get people down my throat. The Bills were distracted this offseason. They thought rolling into camp and the work they did last offseason would carry them over. Last year, teams had an interrupted offseason program, but the Bills players got together A LOT during the offseason. This offseason, that did not happen and several player got sidetracked by things unrelated to football. Add on all of the ballwashing of both players and certain coaches... Maybe, I'm overestimating the impact, but I think they had a huge advantage last offseason over other teams and didn't follow it up this year. Edited November 11, 2021 by Malazan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Bad things that happened this time last year : Got blown out by Titans and Chiefs Almost lost to the Fitzpatrick led Dolphins Beat the 2-14 Jets 18-10 Almost lost a 25 point lead to the Rams Almost lost to the Cam Newton led Patriots if it weren't for a last minute fumble Bad things that happened this year so far: Upset against the Steelers Tough close loss against the Titans Upset against the Jaguars I don't know. I find us to be doing better this year. Did it suck to lose to a team like the Jaguars? Sure. I don't think we are worse than last year though. We have dominated most of our opponents. I know it doesn't pass the vaunted eye test but we clearly are. Of course that is "only" because of the QB's we faced this year right? 🤔 Yeah right. These guys: Sam Darnold Ryan Fitzpatrick Jared Goff Derek Carr Ryan Tannehill Patrick Mahomes Sam Darnold Cam Newton Aren't a whole lot better than these guys at this point: Ben Roethlisberger Tua Tagovailoa / Jacoby Brissett Taylor Heinicke Davis Mills Patrick Mahomes Ryan Tannehill Tua Tagovailoa Trevor Lawrence My point of frustration and criticism with this team is that they haven't done anything yet. One division title in the last 25 years during a weird covid season with no fans/normal circumstances doesn't give them a pass to not work hard every week and prove their staying power. And it shouldn't take 8 week into the season and losing to a team like the Jaguars for the team to get serious and 'stop dancing' at practice type of antics. It's also why I hate how people keep pointing out the Bucs last year when they were 7-5 coming before running the table. The big difference there is that they had the GOAT of any sport in his first year with the team. And what we know about Brady is that he demands excellence from 52 other players on his team. If Allen and McDermott were a proven SB winning combination there certainly would be less concern right now but they are not. But to the point of who we've played thus far this year, you are right not really anyone of note but Mahomes who we did beat but he's having the worst season of his pro career thus far even with the Chiefs winning their last few games. This is also why I feel the 4 game win streak earlier in the season was a mirage given the other teams/QB's we faced in that same stretch and don't believe this team is capable of going on a similar run in the 2nd half of the season compared to last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Good PC - he is clearly displeased with his offensive coaches (Daboll and Johnson), and he came as close as he'll ever come to calling out an individual player (Dawkins). At least they’re recognizing Dawkins now. That’s better than making excuses like some on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) Sounded right on the money to me. Some things change and some things don’t. Football is a physical game. That will never change. The Bills offense hasn’t been physical since Daboll took over as OC. That needs to change if they are going to right the ship on offense and McDermott obviously knows it. Now let’s see what he does about it. Edited November 11, 2021 by vincec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 4 hours ago, First Round Bust said: looked up PFF stats - Dawkins has 7 penalties tied for second most in the league - he and Morse are our highest rated OL - with grades in the 60s - with Brown next with Feliciano who has not given up a sack. Teller grades in the high 80s. With all due respect, Bills fandom has to let this Teller crap go. It's over & done with.... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: The RB situation is very bad. I agree, both backs time in Buffalo appears to be short and their NFL career as a whole wont be long. I think it is safe to say we have the worst backfield in the league or very close to worst. This is a comically bad take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, MJS said: This is a comically bad take. That is your opinion Mr Mod 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: That is your opinion Mr Mod 😊 I certainly can’t think of 2 backs that are worse. I’ve felt that way for 2 years. Everyone made excuses. Edited November 11, 2021 by Governor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Governor said: I certainly can’t think of 2 backs that are worse. I’ve felt that way for 2 years. Everyone made excuses. Nor can I - truthfully both look worse than last year. Moss appears fat and slower and Motor seems to bulked up more than his frame allows and isnt as shifty. D coordinators certainly do not lose sleep over those 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorgus Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 5:16 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: His year with us, Gore averaged 3.6 ypa. That average of 3.6 ypa was comprised of games 3-6, where he averaged 5.3 ypa, games 2 and 7 where he had 3.6 and 3.8 ypa, and then games 8-14 where he averaged 2.1 ypa (and that's inflated by a single game; many were 1.22 or 1.5 ypa) So, I'm not quite sure what exactly you're missing. Halfway through the season, Gore was cooked and it was painful to watch. It just made me think if we had someone with his size and strength that wasn't near the end of his career we wouldn't need to worry as much about an o-line to make holes right now. Gore was certainly slow but it was funny to watch him trudge ahead with three guys hanging off him. Obviously if we had someone like that who also had speed we'd basically have our own Derrick Henry but cloning technology isn't that far ahead yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 So.....Do you think Boomer would say, based on McDermott's press conference, that this is happening? https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/11/13/cbs-sports-boomer-esiason-buffalo-bills-brian-daboll/?itm_source=parsely-api Quote Esiason, soon after the game in the CBS Sports studios, did not hold back on his feelings toward Daboll after the stunning loss for Buffalo. “Now all of a sudden, what is Brian Daboll doing?” Esiason said after discussing the positives Daboll showed last season. “Doesn’t he have to sit down with the quarterback and just say, ‘Hey, look man, this is what we’re trying to do. This is our plan. You don’t have to do this all yourself.'” Boomer Esiason says on the CBS postgame show that someone needs to hold the #Bills offensive coordinator responsible. Specifically. Esiason believed there was a problem with Buffalo’s rushing attack. In their recent game, running backs only had nine carries combined between Devin Singletary and Zack Moss. “They should be thinking about running the ball late in the season. That’s how you win games in inclement weather. You’ve got an all-weather quarterback. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a superstar. He’s a great player. But right now, in the last couple of weeks, I don’t know what’s going on up there,” Esiason said. “They just need to get back to calling the right plays, but someone has to hold the offensive coordinator accountable and say, ‘Come on in here. Let’s sit down and talk about what we’re doing right and what we’re doing wrong. And how we can get it back to the right side of the ledger,'” he added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So.....Do you think Boomer would say, based on McDermott's press conference, that this is happening? https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/11/13/cbs-sports-boomer-esiason-buffalo-bills-brian-daboll/?itm_source=parsely-api I think McDermott will hold everyone accountable that needs to be held accountable, including himself. That is who he is. He is driven to building a championship caliber team and he is always motivated to make this team better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think McDermott will hold everyone accountable that needs to be held accountable, including himself. That is who he is. He is driven to building a championship caliber team and he is always motivated to make this team better. I dunno. There was a lot of talk about problems with the run game last season. Obviously, it has not been adequately addressed. Last year, we ran vs the Patriots, then very little next 2 games Lots of talk about fixing the run game over the Bye, ran vs the Chargers, then run game disappeared again vs. 49ers, Steelers, Dolphins, Colts, Ravens. Against the Ravens, we didn't even try. I think that McDermott and Daboll have a fundamental philosphical difference about the role of a rushing game in a modern offensive attack. IMO, Daboll views the run game as optional, and believes he can successfully and consistently attack defenses without it. I think he views the run game as something you dust off and bring out of the closet when you occasionally need it, not something you must execute successfully every game whether you need it or not. And I think he views it as something you try a handful of times, and if it's not working, you stop trying. I think this because Daboll has said in pressers "everyone wants a balanced offense, but when something isn't working, you better do more of what's working and less of the other thing" or words to that effect, several times now. This likely colors what he "bangs the table for" as an OC, both in terms of off-season talent and of weekly player activations. As a former defensive coordinator, McDermott views a capable run threat as integral to an offense on every down. He understands at a fundamental level how much easier his life as a DC becomes, if on the overwhelming majority of the plays, the opponent presents no credible run threat from the backs or if there's a giant "Tell" as to when they must concern themselves with the run and when they can pin their ears back and attack the pass. And that's really where we are. We are 63% of the time in shotgun (340 out of 538 run or pass offensive plays). We pass 74% of shotgun plays, and I'd bet that the majority of the 26% of the time (91 attempts) we rush, it's a Josh Allen scramble (Allen has 57 of our 216 rush attempts). So about 2/3 of the time, the DC can say "contain Allen, and attack the pass" For McDermott to say "I thought we'd be further along at this point" IMO indicates he believed he had conveyed to Daboll the need to adopt his philosophy, if not in the off-season then after the Pittsburgh game, and it was being addressed. I think McDermott prefers to "stay in his lane" and be hands-off the offense, and that may have blinded him to what was happening especially because overall, prior to Jax, our rushing stats have been up this season and you have to look under the hood to see how much of that is due to Josh and how many of Josh's yards are YAC. Bottom line, if he doesn't oversee Daboll on this issue, I don't think we're going to see much of a change. We'll see what we saw last year, where we focus on the run and run the ball down the throats of a couple of opponents, then another week back off and go pass pass pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I dunno. There was a lot of talk about problems with the run game. Last year, we ran vs the Patriots, then very little next 2 games Lots of talk about fixing the run game over the Bye, ran vs the Chargers, then run game disappeared again vs. 49ers, Steelers, Dolphins, Colts, Ravens I think that McDermott and Daboll have a fundamental philosphical difference about the role of a rushing game. IMO, Daboll views the run game as optional, and believes he can successfully attack defenses without it. I think he views the run game as something you dust off and bring out of the closet when you occasionally need it, not something you must execute successfully every game whether you need it or not. And I think he views it as something you try a handful of times, and if it's not working, you stop trying. I think this because of stuff that Daboll has said in pressers to the effect of "everyone wants a balanced offense, but when something isn't working, you better do more of what's working and less of the other thing" This likely colors what he "bangs the table for" as an OC, both in terms of off-season talent and of weekly player activations. As a former defensive coordinator, McDermott views a capable run threat as integral to an offense on every down. He understands at a fundamental level how much easier his life as a DC becomes, if on the overwhelming majority of the plays, the opponent presents no credible run threat from the backs or if there's a giant "Tell" as to when they must concern themselves with the run and when they can pin their ears back and attack the pass. For McDermott to say "I thought we'd be further along at this point" IMO indicates he believed he had conveyed the need to follow this philosophy to Daboll, if not in the off-season then after the Pittsburgh game, and it was being addressed. I think McDermott prefers to "stay in his lane" and be hands-off the offense, and that may have blinded him to what was happening especially because overall, prior to Jax, our rushing stats have been up this season and you have to look under the hood to see how much of that is due to Josh and how many of Josh's yards are YAC. Bottom line, if he doesn't oversee Daboll on this issue, I don't think we're going to see much of a change. We'll see what we saw last year, where we focus on the run and run the ball down the throats of a couple of opponents, then another week back off and go pass pass pass. When McDermott says, "I thought we'd be further along at this point," it doesn't necessarily indicate he is demanding a change in philosophy on the part of Daboll. It could simply be referring to executing the run game efficiently when they need to. I think McDermott is more concerned with the ability to run when they need to run, as opposed to how much they run. Although, I also think he would like to run it more than they do, but he also understands the strengths of this team. My point was that, IMO, McDermott is not the kind of coach that is hesitant in any way to reign anyone in or holding them accountable. He also is not the kind of head coach to subordinate his philosophies to those of his assistants if he believes his philosophies are better for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.