What are our issues?

[BillMafia716ix]

Bills issue is Brian Daboll. He’s a good coordinator but he’s stuck in his ways. He simply doesn’t like running the ball. How does a back who is averaging over 5 YPC on the season can only get 5 carries? It continues to be an issue with him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Singletary asks to be released or traded this off-season. They are wasting him

[Robert Paulson]

8 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Bills we’re #1 on both offense and Defense going into tonight. I don’t think there is many holes we just got Derrick Henry’d and we didn’t convert in the redzone earlier in the game 

our linebackers were confused and out of position all second half.  they bit on king henry fakes and there was a huge zone in the center of the field for 20 yard gains on crossing routes.  coaches never adjusted to bring  a safety up into that zone and we never breathed on tannehill.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Robert Paulson

[BillMafia716ix]

6 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

our linebackers were confused and out of position all second half.  they bit on king henry fakes and there was a huge zone in the center of the field for 20 yard gains on crossing routes.  coaches never adjusted to bring  a safety up into that zone and we never breathed on tannehill.

That’s the Derrick Henry effect. You literally have to have all hands on deck to stop him. When your playing Tennessee, you have to jump on them early and force them to play catch up throwing the ball. Us being 2/5 in the redzone kept Tennessee in the game which allowed them to use Derrick Henry more. We convert in the redzone Bills win by 2 TD’s easy

[Robert Paulson]

2 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

That’s the Derrick Henry effect. You literally have to have all hands on deck to stop him. When your playing Tennessee, you have to jump on them early and force them to play catch up throwing the ball. Us being 2/5 in the redzone kept Tennessee in the game which allowed them to use Derrick Henry more. We convert in the redzone Bills win by 2 TD’s easy

agreed

 

[Big Turk]

8 hours ago, McBean said:

What he said.

 

Zero pressure on statue Tannehill.

 

No excuses.

 

Tannehill isn't a statue...the dude was a converted WR. Seriously...where do people come up with this stuff??

[Roundybout]

8 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

Bills ARE NOT going to win a Super Bowl with Singletary and Moss, period. Todd Gurley is still available. He's only 27, and wouldn't he be an upgrade over Singletary? He was a bruiser just two years ago. I realize nobody has touched him, but going to a SB contender might get him going! Cut Breida and bring him in. They have everything to lose by staying with the current RB's. They have done NOTHING all year.    

 

Gurley has the knees of an 83-year-old retired steelworker, he's not a viable option. 

 

I think Moss/Singletary are fine backs. My problem lies with our linemen. Besides Brown (who had a poor game last night but is showing a lot of promise), Dawkins (again, awful showing last night) and maybe Morse, we have very little in the cupboard. Feliciano is overrated as hell and Williams is a backup. 

[BillsVet]

3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

The biggest “issue” is that Beane traded away an All Pro interior lineman and has thrown three straight second round picks in the garbage.

 

The Bills are a great team, but they’d be an elite team with at least one more impact player at guard, CB, WR or pass rusher.  Those second round picks have real value and Beane squanders them for no good reason.

 

It's a larger issue involving amateur scouting on offense.  They made their bones building an offense around UFAs and haven't developed much particularly on the OL.  Brown is there, but he's a work in progress.  The only other drafted starter, Dawkins, is kinda meh right now.  The top WR's - Diggs, Beasley, and Sanders are all veterans acquired.   Knox, Singletary, and Moss are all OK, but not anything to write home about.    

 

Beane needs to up his game on draft day on offense.  Because aside from Josh they've been pedestrian drafting there. 

[Jauronimo]

Red zone efficiency  https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct

 

Bills were 2-5, Titans were 3-3.  That was the difference in the game.

 

Buffalo gave up 1 big play and otherwise dominated Tennessee in every statistical category. Looking at the boxscore its amazing they lost.  

[BuffaloRebound]

We looked like a team not used to being in close games.  Titans scratched and clawed to keep game close.  Our upside is so much higher than Titans, but they found way to grind it out.  

[Brand J]

Our second round drafting has been ABYSMAL for as long as I can remember. That’s an issue.

[Success]

I can't argue that the running game is not a glaring need.  Both Moss & Singletary are great #2 backs.  We don't have that 30-carry a game guy.

 

We have more of a running game than we did last year, but obviously, when we have 3rd or 4th & short, it's a liability. 

 

[Big Turk]

9 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

Bills ARE NOT going to win a Super Bowl with Singletary and Moss, period. Todd Gurley is still available. He's only 27, and wouldn't he be an upgrade over Singletary? He was a bruiser just two years ago. I realize nobody has touched him, but going to a SB contender might get him going! Cut Breida and bring him in. They have everything to lose by staying with the current RB's. They have done NOTHING all year.    

 

Running backs are mostly irrelevant. If Allen plays well and the defense plays well, the Bills could easily win with Moss and Singletary

[frostbitmic]

Last night they sold out to stop Henry and failed. They didn't go after the QB at all.

 

Red Zone offense hasn't been great all season, I'm often left scratching my head about play calling after a short Bass-o-matic FG.

 

PENALTIES... PENALTIES ... PENALTIES

[Motor26]

18 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Running backs are mostly irrelevant. If Allen plays well and the defense plays well, the Bills could easily win with Moss and Singletary

Yes. Let’s not forget Allen is a big threat to run. The defense just couldn’t stop anything the Titans did in the 2nd half. If Josh gets that 6 inches the Bills win. No team is perfect, and the Bills have issues but as long as they have Josh they will be in every game.

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Red zone offense.  The end of game and 2 fgs is what decided it.  Convert 2 of the 3 into Tds and the game isnt that close.  They have things to clean up for sure.  I also think the right side of the oline is slowly becoming the strong side.  Dawkins has been nothing more than average so far.  The defense we caught in no mans land once Henry broke off that run.  Those days will happen.  

 

The right side was horrible last night. Dion got blown up on that final play but (and I say this without having watched the all22 yet) otherwise he was the best of our oline. Brown got beaten like a drum multiple times off the edge.

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Last night they sold out to stop Henry and failed. They didn't go after the QB at all.

 

Red Zone offense hasn't been great all season, I'm often left scratching my head about play calling after a short Bass-o-matic FG.

 

PENALTIES... PENALTIES ... PENALTIES

 

Mainly it was 2 runs they failed on,  the 76 yarder and the 20 yarder.  They did a decent job other than that against Henry. Tennessee was in a lot of 3rd and long situations.

2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Red zone offense.  The end of game and 2 fgs is what decided it.  Convert 2 of the 3 into Tds and the game isnt that close.  They have things to clean up for sure.  I also think the right side of the oline is slowly becoming the strong side.  Dawkins has been nothing more than average so far.  The defense we caught in no mans land once Henry broke off that run.  Those days will happen.  

 

No, them having 2 TDs called back by penalties is what decided it.

[Solomon Grundy]

10 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Last night they sold out to stop Henry and failed. They didn't go after the QB at all.

 

Red Zone offense hasn't been great all season, I'm often left scratching my head about play calling after a short Bass-o-matic FG.

 

PENALTIES... PENALTIES ... PENALTIES

Defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd and long on multiple occasions last night. Agree with the penalties.

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd and long on multiple occasions last night. Agree with the penalties.

 

Yup...for as well as Henry played, it was really only 2 runs that hurt them...the 76 yarder and the 20 yarder.  Other than that, they played pretty well most of the night and got them in a bunch of 3dr and long situations that they normally are good at getting off the field on.

[LABILLBACKER]

10 hours ago, Bangarang said:

We’ve invested considerable resources on our d-line and we still struggle to get pressure and sacks with our front 4.

 

We also struggle pass blocking and creating holes for the run game.

Hard to fix those problems mid season.

 

1. OL

2. DL

3. RB

4. ST

...still shocked we couldn't sack Hieneke or Tanahill?

[Solomon Grundy]

10 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

Sometimes a team has your number, and you can't make any mistakes. The Titans are that team. Our mistake happened with the tipped int (there's others for sure but that was a killer). Learn from it and move on. This team has the skill to go all the way. 

Unfortunately, every team with dominant IDL will have the Bills number until they make changes. I'm, honestly, afraid that the Jets game will be closer than we think because of their defensive front 7. We focus on 76, but I think the problem is 60. 

[Solomon Grundy]

10 hours ago, Bangarang said:

We’ve invested considerable resources on our d-line and we still struggle to get pressure and sacks with our front 4.

 

We also struggle pass blocking and creating holes for the run game.

Hard to fix those problems mid season.

 

Our investment in D-line was somewhere sitting in escrow or in an off shore account for some reason. I'm all about loyalty, but McDermott suffers from it to his detriment. Basham and Epenesa should've been dressed and playing last night. I'd rather see more of them than Addison. Also, I feel like the Mitch Morse experience is over. He's just not powerful enough to handle quality defensive linemen. 

[Solomon Grundy]

10 hours ago, FormerlyPT5P said:

Tanny played WR at Texas A&M before switching to QB. The man's an athlete.

 

And that's gotta be one of the best O-Lines.

 

Nevertheless I'm disappointed as well. Impactful DLines are a huge difference maker between playoff teams

 

 

They had backups on their offensive line!! The Bills defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd and long on multiple occasions allowing Henry more attempts to carry the ball. Levi Wallace, although decent, is a weak link in defensive backfield when it comes to physical, fast WRs. He's not strong enough to challenge them at the line allowing them easy release and not giving the rush to effect Tannehill. Wish Frazier would have tried Dane Jackson a series or two.

[LabattBlue]

The OL interior is subpar…especially Feliciano. Bringing back the same starting 5 from last years mediocre line was a BIG mistake by Beane. 

[ColoradoBills]

Our issues as fans partially are some unrealistic expectations about the Buffalo Bills football team.  They are very good team but are not

going to win in all 3 aspects (O, D, STs) every game every series.  Last night was a tough loss but it was caused by missed opportunities

and bad execution against a good opponent.

 

It seems to me fans put out their opinion of the one or two things to cause a loss like this but in reality it's a culmination of the entire play

during the entire game.  One thing that makes me feel less distressed today is the fact that if any of these were turned around last night

the Bills would of come out the winner.  This loss was nothing like the losses against the Chiefs and Titans last year.

 

OL blocking, some better runs, too many wobbly passes just off the mark, tipped pass INT, penalties at the worse time, DL pass rush,

D gives up a long TD run, red zone play resulting in FGs, called back KR TD, good punt return called back because of 2 flags, poor red zone

play by the D, a 3rd down run a half yard short, and a 4th down QB sneak that had a slip on the grass to name just some of the details.

 

Any ONE of these things changed and the Bills could of had the W.  Titans played a game "just good enough" to win when the Bills played

the way they played.   Add a blocked punt in the 1st game and the team could be 6-0 but it's football and their opponents are playing

their hardest to win too.

 

On to the Miami game at home and hopefully a WIN.

Go Bills!

 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The right side was horrible last night. Dion got blown up on that final play but (and I say this without having watched the all22 yet) otherwise he was the best of our oline. Brown got beaten like a drum multiple times off the edge.

Feliciano got crushed too 

[SCBills]

At least Brown and Dawkins, we can hope improve as the season goes on.  

 

We've seen Dawkins play well and he's coming back from a rough covid battle over the summer. 

 

Brown is a talented rookie, who hopefully lessens the rookie mistakes with more and more experience.  

 

The IOL was pointed to as a weak spot amongst every Bills fan in the offseason and we did nothing.... Moving Williams inside to RG has helped, but LG is the weak link in the chain that seems to never get fixed.  Could have easily addressed it in the offseason, instead we re-sign Feliciano and draft a dude late who's now on the Eagles 53.

[par73]

Both lines, rb, no. 2 CB.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Too much faith in Cody Ford who blows chunks…. They did sign Lamp(and then released him)… not sure if he’s available or not.

 

He is but he wasn't healthy all camp. Who knows what state his body is in.

[par73]

Thought I'd chime in on the penalties, as well. That has been a yearly issue under McDermott, despite all the calls for more discipline.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

2 hours ago, BTB said:

The OL interior is subpar…especially Feliciano. Bringing back the same starting 5 from last years mediocre line was a BIG mistake by Beane. 

 

We have one of the more expensive O-lines in the league

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/

 

That unit is easily the biggest disappointment of the season for the Bills. We can't even blame it on injuries. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Offensive line isnt physical enough. Dline could be more physical too but its not too bad its just teams like the titans that give us a hard time.

 

Next off season we really need to upgrade the interior offensive line and Brown and Dawkins need to get in the weight room. Hard to fault Brown being young so im sure he will get better, really love his aggressiveness.

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

Brandon Beane should be on the phone with Pittsburgh/Denver and seeing what it would cost to acquire Joe Haden/Kyle Fuller. Both are in the last year of their contracts. We need a rental #2 CB to get us over the hump. If I had to give up a 3 or 4 to acquire, consider it done. Hell, throw in Cody Ford. We can get by with the porous offensive line because of Josh athletic ability for this Super Bowl run. We can’t cross the finish line if the defense continues to give up 3rd and long opportunities because of a deficiency at CB.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Solomon Grundy

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

21 hours ago, Bangarang said:

We’ve invested considerable resources on our d-line and we still struggle to get pressure and sacks with our front 4.

 

We also struggle pass blocking and creating holes for the run game.

Hard to fix those problems mid season.

 

 

We've invested, but still young on D line.  5 guys have basically 3 years or less playing time.  I'll give them the benefit of doubt they can improve. 

 

O line, needs some new players inside   Maybe sign top FA guard this off season and draft another center or guard in around the 2nd.

 

That in itself may help run game.

[Big Blitz]

 

[Turk71]

The Bills don't need Miles Sanders

They need better blocking.

They have a rookie project playing tackle. Guard position is still a weakness.

 Allen and the backs being so elusive make the line look better than it really is.

 

[Solomon Grundy]

59 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

The Bills don't need Miles Sanders

They need better blocking.

They have a rookie project playing tackle. Guard position is still a weakness.

 Allen and the backs being so elusive make the line look better than it really is.

 

Miles Sanders would be an immediate upgrade at RB. I'd swap Miles for Motor in a NY minute

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Turk71 said:

The Bills don't need Miles Sanders

They need better blocking.

They have a rookie project playing tackle. Guard position is still a weakness.

 Allen and the backs being so elusive make the line look better than it really is.

 

 

I agree the problems are mainly on the offensive line although Miles Sanders would still be a huge upgrade on what they have at running back.

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Miles Sanders would be an immediate upgrade at RB. I'd swap Miles for Motor in a NY minute

 

I'd send them Motor, Moss, Breida and a signed Fred Jackson jersey if it meant getting Sanders.