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Just now, Success said:

 

They could have had Allen, Mayfield, Darnold, Jackson.  Danny Jones may pan out, but they'd be better off today w/ any of those guys.

 

I never want to see the Bills use an early round pick on a RB again. 

 

From where they were picking if it played out the same they could have walked away from that draft with Josh Allen and Nick Chubb.

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2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

There is one exception.. Henry.. but generally the facts support you..

Easy to say once you see them pan out. 1st 2 years of his career he was a bust waiting to happen. 

 

It's played out will for him...however 1 knee injury would have changed all that. Still too risky to take with a top 10 pick and in unknown career path.

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Just now, No Place To Hyde said:

Easy to say once you see them pan out. 1st 2 years of his career he was a bust waiting to happen. 

 

It's played out will for him...however 1 knee injury would have changed all that. Still too risky to take with a top 10 pick and in unknown career path.

 

Yeah .. but they paid him right?

 

You did reference the 2nd contract as well as the high pick which is what I was commenting on...

 

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Just now, JoPoy88 said:

Danny “Dimes” is now 1 for 8.

 

I know people are going to hate me for this, but he looks like Allen against the Pats 2 years ago when he couldn't hit anything (except for a few INT's), and you could tell the big stage was creating a bit too much pressure.

 

He's already got lucky on a few potential INT's being dropped, but hopefully he turns it around.

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9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Pats "D" made Davis Mills look like an all-pro today with over 300 yard passing and a QB rating above 140. Hahahahaha

Ya the D looked Sergio minus Judon. But ya they were horrid today!!  But I’ll take an ugly win over a pretty loss any day.

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1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ya the D looked Sergio minus Judon. But ya they were horrid today!!  But I’ll take an ugly win over a pretty loss any day.

 

Well, congrats... you'll have two ugly losses against us to look forward too. So nice the shoe is on the other foot now after nearly two decades!

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2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Well, congrats... you'll have two ugly losses against us to look forward too. So nice the shoe is on the other foot now after nearly two decades!

Best thing Bill could’ve done was to retire 2 years ago. He’ll be an automatic HOF, but we all know now what was behind his success and it didn’t have much to do with him. 

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45 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is fair that Chase has outplayed Sewell so far. I still think it was the wrong pick in the medium and long term.

 

And put it this way.... even without having looked like a stud yet Sewell would still be an upgrade at BOTH tackle spots for Cincy.

 

It is a lot easier to find competent o-line talent in free agency and later draft rounds than elite WR talent. Chase looks like he will be a game changer for the rest of his career. O-line is more about the whole than the individual. Even if Sewell is an upgrade at OT for them that doesn't mean their o-line would suddenly be good enough. It would upgrade exactly one spot on the line. Bringing in Chase has possibly immediately given them an elite WR corps.

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12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

Yeah .. but they paid him right?

 

You did reference the 2nd contract as well as the high pick which is what I was commenting on...

 

Ok. Yea...they paid him. And their defense is terrible. Big money to a position that they could get production from with a later pick/cheaper option. 

 

Instead they set themselves up to live and die by 1 player's health at a position that takes the most punishment. 

5 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

Best thing Bill could’ve done was to retire 2 years ago. He’ll be an automatic HOF, but we all know now what was behind his success and it didn’t have much to do with him. 

Could say that about a lot of "HOF" coaches...including our own Marv Levy. 

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2 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Ok. Yea...they paid him. And their defense is terrible. Big money to a position that they could get production from with a later pick/cheaper option. 

 

Instead they set themselves up to live and die by 1 player's health at a position that takes the most punishment. 

 

They pay him $12M a year.. not much more than what the Bills are paying Milano.. 

 

I doubt that contract is their issue.. he is by far the biggest postive they have...

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So what have we learned this afternoon?

 

1.  That the 3 teams we've beaten suck. Like really, really suck.

2. That the AFC East 2021 is just like the AFC East for the last 20 years, except that now we're the Pats and the Pats are the Bills (or maybe the Dolphins)

3. That the one team we've beaten doesn't really suck after all. The Steelers made the Broncos (3-1, after beating maybe the 3 worst teams in the NFL) look like total garbage. They may be the best of the mediocre teams.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It is a lot easier to find competent o-line talent in free agency and later draft rounds than elite WR talent. Chase looks like he will be a game changer for the rest of his career. O-line is more about the whole than the individual. Even if Sewell is an upgrade at OT for them that doesn't mean their o-line would suddenly be good enough. It would upgrade exactly one spot on the line. Bringing in Chase has possibly immediately given them an elite WR corps.

 

I still disagree from a strategic perspective. Not keeping Burrow clean is hurting them. I feel like I have seen this story before and it was called Andrew Luck.

 

Chase is excellent. It was never about that.

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4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Ok. Yea...they paid him. And their defense is terrible. Big money to a position that they could get production from with a later pick/cheaper option. 

 

Instead they set themselves up to live and die by 1 player's health at a position that takes the most punishment. 

Could say that about a lot of "HOF" coaches...including our own Marv Levy. 


I totally agree, but Jim Kelly was no Brady. The dude is inhuman. I will say that I’m not as high on Marv as some on here are. When it counted the most, he could never get his team together. 

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Just now, Aussie Joe said:

 

They pay him $12M a year.. not much more than what the Bills are paying Milano.. 

 

I doubt that contract is their issue.. he is by far the biggest postive they have...

Where does what the Bills pay Milano (by the way, a LBer...not a RB.) have to do with anything? 12M/year is ludicrous for a RB in today's NFL. And yes, more money here does equal less money elsewhere to upgrade the team. 

 

 

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Just now, Saint Doug said:


I totally agree, but Jim Kelly was no Brady. The dude is inhuman. I will say that I’m not as high on Marv as some on here are. When it counted the most, he could never get his team together. 

I always gave Marv credit for being able to handle so many star players in that day and age. He was a leader. But the whole X's and O's side...not sure he was HOF worthy there

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4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Where does what the Bills pay Milano (by the way, a LBer...not a RB.) have to do with anything? 12M/year is ludicrous for a RB in today's NFL. And yes, more money here does equal less money elsewhere to upgrade the team. 

 

 

 

I think they get value for money...

 

Like I said originally... he is the one exception to paying a RB going around at the moment...

 

If you dont think he is worth the money then its no skin off my nose.. their fans seem ok with it though from what I can tell...

 

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