dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) With AJ McCarron out for the season, ATL has only two QBs on their roster, and one of them is an undrafted rookie free agent (Felipe Franks). I prefer Webb to Fromm, although honestly it's more like six of one/half dozen of the other. Regardless, they're both fine as third stringers, so the Bills aren't creating any vulnerabilities. Rather than wait until cuts and hope they get lucky, Atlanta could secure via a trade a modestly credible backup in Fromm who also happens to be a hometown hero. And if they do it quickly, they'd at least get some camp under Fromm's belt. My view: if the Falcons offered a 4th rounder (or some combination that's equivalent to that) in the 2022 draft, I'd be all over it. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/falcons/2021/08/23/aj-mccarron-acl-tear-atlanta-falcons-quarterback/8239250002/ Edited August 23, 2021 by dave mcbride 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Definitely not a bad thought though a 4th might be too rich for ATL but ya never know they did give us a 7th for lee smith 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I'd do it. Not sure why they would though... 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Nobody is offering a 4th for Fromm. 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Or you know they could just wait for us to cut him. 7 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Why would Atlanta give up anything for Jake Fromm let a lone a 4th rounder... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Fromm will be available soon enough. If they did trade for him it would be for a 7th if the Bills were lucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I will personally throw a parade in Beane's honor if he manages to get a 4th for Fromm. I would happily settle for a 6th, and that's probably asking for too much because everybody knows that he's going to hit waivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Well I believe we did get a draft pick for AJ McCarron so anything is possible. If Fromm were released, one of the places higher on his list likely would be Atlanta, (I'm making a big assumption here since he went to Georgia, he's from the south??) so from that standpoint Atlanta could wait us out. The only risk to them is some other team also is interested in him and does instead work out a trade with the Bills beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Nobody is offering a 4th for Fromm. They're literally desperate. Desperation causes people to do things they normally wouldn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Nobody is offering a 4th for Fromm. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Fromm will be available soon enough. If they did trade for him it would be for a 7th if the Bills were lucky. If he's on waivers, it doesn't mean ATL will get him. They simply can't go into the season with only one credible QB. Sometimes you have to overpay a little to address a glaring need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Fromm has never taken a snap in a real game. Why would Atlanta want a totally inexperienced backup? There are a lot better options out there than Jake Fromm: https://nfltraderumors.co/2021-nfl-free-agent-list/ Edited August 23, 2021 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Why would Atlanta give up anything for Jake Fromm let a lone a 4th rounder... Because they're literally desperate. A team cannot go into a season opener with only one real QB on the roster. Just now, Albany,n.y. said: Fromm has never taken a snap in a real game. Why would Atlanta want a totally inexperienced backup? Because all of the other backs have been claimed. It's desperation time there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Atlanta could secure via a trade a modestly credible backup in Fromm Are you basing that on more than that one pass late in the Week 1 preseason game? Because I cant think of anything else he has shown otherwise.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: If he's on waivers, it doesn't mean ATL will get him. They simply can't go into the season with only one credible QB. Sometimes you have to overpay a little to address a glaring need. Fromm isn't really a credible QB though. He is JAG. They will find someone just as good or better for free or they will find a better trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 a 4th ?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Are you basing that on more than that one pass late in the Week 1 preseason game? Because I cant think of anything else he has shown otherwise.. No, it's based on the fact that he was actually drafted in a non-garbage time round (the fifth) and played four seasons against teams filled with NFL players-to-be. He is virtually the same guy as AJ McCarron, also a fifth rounder who played against the big boys in the SEC for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 If we can get a 4th for Fromm I’d make that trade asap. Think after next weeks game we will see a few trades from Beane. This team is stacked with talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Because they're literally desperate. A team cannot go into a season opener with only one real QB on the roster. Because all of the other backs have been claimed. It's desperation time there. No they haven't, read the list I added after your reply. They may just coax Matt Schaub back for another year. They are not desperate. They can either sign one now or wait for the 53 cutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I'd send Fromm to Atlanta for a new parka and a bag of Jack Link's Beef Jerky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: Fromm isn't really a credible QB though. He is JAG. They will find someone just as good or better for free or they will find a better trade. Who? No one is available at this point. And what team is going to part with their backup QB at this stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) I mean MAYBE he could fetch a 2023 conditional 7th round pick. MAYBE. More likely he's out of the NFL and appearing as a talking head on ESPN's College Gameday Live sooner than later. If I was Atlanta and was concerned about my backup QB situation, I'd try to pry Foles away from the Bears. They've got Dalton starting and Fields waiting in the wings. They don't need Foles. Edited August 23, 2021 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, dave mcbride said: No, it's based on the fact that he was actually drafted in a non-garbage time round (the fifth) and played four seasons against teams filled with NFL players-to-be. He is virtually the same guy as AJ McCarron, also a fifth rounder who played against the big boys in the SEC for years. There will be more credible options than him available.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: They're literally desperate. Desperation causes people to do things they normally wouldn't. They're desperate, not stupid. You want a guy as good as Fromm, there are dozens and dozens out there. I googled FA QBs and came up with Bortles, Griffin III, Rosen, Kaepernick and Schaub. You need someone as good as Fromm, they're simply not that hard to find that you're left with your best option being Fromm for a 4th. That would be nuts. Edited August 23, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Maybe they give us a 2047 6th rounder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 For instance, I think Blake Bortles is out there still. He isn't good but he is probably better than Fromm and definitely has more experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I'd be good with a 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I mean MAYBE he could fetch a 2023 conditional 7th round pick. MAYBE. More likely he's out of the NFL and appearing as a talking head on ESPN's College Gameday Live sooner than later. If I was Atlanta and was concerned about my backup QB situation, I'd try to pry Foles away from the Bears. They've got Dalton starting and Fields waiting in the wings. They don't need Foles. That makes some sense. Big salary though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Who? No one is available at this point. And what team is going to part with their backup QB at this stage? They could sign Rosen, Bortles, RG3, and more before trading for Fromm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: For instance, I think Blake Bortles is out there still. He isn't good but he is probably better than Fromm and definitely has more experience. It's amazing to me that Bortles is completely out of the league. Didn't play last year and threw two passes in 2019. He's not that old (29) and his numbers while not great are moderately OK (for a backup) -- https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BortBl00.htm. Maybe he doesn't want to play anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I'd be good with a 7th. Just want to remind everyone that Beane has already stole a 7th round pick from Atlanta for the Lee Smith trade earlier this year. Maybe they give that back and get their 6th? LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, dave mcbride said: It's amazing to me that Bortles is completely out of the league. Didn't play last year and threw two passes in 2019. He's not that old (29) and his numbers while not great are moderately OK (for a backup) -- https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BortBl00.htm. Maybe he doesn't want to play anymore. Me too. I thought he was good enough to be a backup. Maybe he has a poor attitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, ngbills said: They could sign Rosen, Bortles, RG3, and more before trading for Fromm. Is Rosen or RG3 better than Fromm? I am not sure; both RG3 and Rosen are terrible. But yeah, there are some names out there, most of whom are bad. Bortles intrigues me slightly because he has a little bit of success in the league and is physically decent. But he's been out of the league since the end of 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Jake for meat, all you can eat Edited August 23, 2021 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: They're desperate, not stupid. You want a guy as good as Fromm, there are dozens and dozens out there. I googled FA QBs and came up with Bortles, Griffin III, Rosen, Kaepernick. You need someone as good as Fromm, they're simply not that hard to find that you're left with your best option being Fromm for a 4th. That would be nuts. Rosen and RGIII are really bad players. Kaepernick will not be playing for the Falcons. Shaub is in his 40s and Bortles hasn't been on a team since 2019. Fromm has at least been through camp with a really good team and is in game shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Fromm will be available soon enough. If they did trade for him it would be for a 7th if the Bills were lucky. 7th is better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Is Rosen or RG3 better than Fromm? I am not sure; both RG3 and Rosen are terrible. But yeah, there are some names out there, most of whom are bad. Bortles intrigues me slightly because he has a little bit of success in the league and is physically decent. But he's been out of the league since the end of 2019. I would think most coaches/GM's would put any of those guys on the field before Fromm. All Fromm has over them is there is less tape on him. But you watch the tape he does have in pre-season and its not great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6th rounder or 7th we would be luck guy has a played maybe 30 mins of professional football in 2 years its a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I actually suggested floating Fromm or Webb days ago. But a 4th is a pretty ridiculous suggestion imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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