Big Blitz Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Over 2 full months of Delta (likely more) in the UK: We should be celebrating and having covid is over parties 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 18 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: So now we’re quoting anonymous posters on some forum who are trying to evade getting banned by doing cute things like writing [VX] to frustrate the anti-vax search algorithms. Imagine thinking you’re making a point against those that oppose medical tyranny by illustrating how people have to cryptic-post “to evade search algorithms” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: LMAO - Don't you agree Trump could help make a difference and help encourage his followers to get vaccinated? And speaking of REPORTED.... Great source. Well for Trump to have any influence with the un-vaccinated you have to believe the "Trump supporter" demographic is a major contributor to overall hesitancy. But targeted commercials I've seen lately that feature Black and Hispanic "Doctors" speaking to their constituencies makes me think these demographics are the heavy hitters on the hesitancy front. Also, thank you for remembering my post on the insurrection topic. I will give you a lot of credit here as you make a lot more effort at this stuff than I care to commit to here. But my "reported" reference came from a named reporter speaking to a named Capitol Police official. And to get an answer we just need to ask Rep. Pelosi and/or the House Sargent at Arms a few direct questions. Like why they denied requests to call in the cavalry that day? Questions that have important answers but which I expect will never be allowed to be asked in the 1/9 Committee forum. I'm not sure The Hill reporter would reveal their source but I'd be interested to hear who it was in the event I am wrong about the motivation and credibility of the Trump story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Justice Barrett turned aside the emergency appeal to stop IU from mandating vaccines. Good for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) This is absolutely ridiculous There is no getting a grip on covid. That was April 2020 mindset when they were lying to you about aresolized spread Twitter fact checked false. You can only crush people by limiting their ability to meet as normal. And delay the inevitable. Which you see here. States that had a grip on COVID now seeing a crush of cases The COVID-19 surge that is sending hospitalizations to all-time highs in parts of the South is also clobbering states like Hawaii and Oregon that were once seen as pandemic success stories. After months in which they kept cases and hospitalizations at manageable levels, they are watching progress slip away as record numbers of patients overwhelm bone-tired health care workers. Oregon - like Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana in recent days - has more people in the hospital with COVID-19 than at any other point in the pandemic. Hawaii is about to reach that mark, too. https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-31590aa02655dc655f4fd06ff28b8e2b All unvaccinated I'm sure. AND *Cases don't matter* That was also a useless thing in April 2020. Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dpberr Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Justice Barrett turned aside the emergency appeal to stop IU from mandating vaccines. Good for her. Eh. It was improperly filed. Even if properly filed, it was a terrible legal approach because they weren't asking the Supreme Court a question. That's a dumb lawyer. They essentially wanted the US Supreme Court to issue a stay on the IU action while their case was on appeal. The Court can't do that. IMO all they had to do was make IU defend it's claim it's not a state institution which is an absurd claim, but all the detail they'd need. The Indiana legislature prohibited the state and state "organizations" from enacting mandates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 716er said: This was March 15. I should have bet you. But proving you wrong (constantly) while amusing and that works only because of the ignorance I have to endure, but it is still depressing because I want to be wrong. But I'm not. March 15 (5 months ago we're not at years yet but soon - new variants coming)..... moving us forward alright. Off a cliff. Florida's fault tho.. Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 13 hours ago, BillStime said: GQP: Let them die CC: @leh-nerd skin-erd in other news: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 And an interesting preprint study on vaccines and mutations to watch. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.08.21261768v1 Findings The vaccination coverage rate is inversely correlated to the mutation frequency of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variants in 16 countries of 20 countries studied. We also discovered delta variants evolved differently under the positive selection pressure in the United Kingdom and India. Meaning Full vaccination against COVID-19 is critical to suppress emergent mutations. Tajima’s D test score, with a threshold value as -2.50, can provide a promising tool to forecast new COVID-19 outbreaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Amy Barrett tells anti-vaxxers to F off! https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-barrett-denies-appeal-from-indiana-university-students-fighting-covid-19-vaccine-mandate Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Sundancer said: And an interesting preprint study on vaccines and mutations to watch. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.08.21261768v1 Findings The vaccination coverage rate is inversely correlated to the mutation frequency of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variants in 16 countries of 20 countries studied. We also discovered delta variants evolved differently under the positive selection pressure in the United Kingdom and India. Meaning Full vaccination against COVID-19 is critical to suppress emergent mutations. Tajima’s D test score, with a threshold value as -2.50, can provide a promising tool to forecast new COVID-19 outbreaks. What kind of dummy do you have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases. https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: What kind of dummy do you have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases. https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients Can I double thank you this post. We are being played. We need to vaccinate to "prevent mutations" might be the lowest point in the history of civilization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sundancer Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: What kind of dummy do you have to be to believe we can stop this thing from mutating? The vast majority of the world is not vaccinated and will not be for at least a decade, so if the mutations don't happen here they will happen elsewhere and then be brought here. Anyone who understands how virus work will understand that it will mutate differently for different populations. Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases. https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients “Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.” Patently false statement. 11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: We need to vaccinate to "prevent mutations" might be the lowest point in the history of civilization. Your mirror is actually the lowest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 They’re not vaccinating to stop this virus. We can’t stop mutations when the virus is worldwide… not just local to the United States. Vaccinations went from “miracle drug” to “less likely to catch covid, but you can still catch it and transmit it and some variants may become resistant, but you also need booster shots”. The real reason for promoting large scale vaccination….. To get more public buy-in on Draconian measures like vaccine passports. The more they get vaxxed, the more they make willing to say “that doesn’t affect me so it’s ok.” Don’t put it past our government to take an intrinsically good thing (vaccine availability) and turn it into a psy-op. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) So, people , who are not sick at all, may be prohibited from interstate travel, without proof of a vaccine. APNews Edited August 13, 2021 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, B-Man said: So, people , who are not sick at all, may be prohibited from interstate travel, without proof of a vaccine. APNews What a f ing disaster this administration and its voters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 People will say “oh, that interstate travel thing won’t actually happen”… Those people are either lying to you, or haven’t heard of The Overton Window. We were called conspiracy theorists last year for talking about vaccine passports… and now half the country just thinks it’s normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 This country needs a divorce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: What a f ing disaster this administration and its voters are. Let me also add the media and Silicon Valley that are supposed to be questioning the government and holding them accountable NOT Americans that don't want a non FDA approved therapeutic for a virus you will not die from if you are under 50 - period. Now it's "to stop variants" and they aren't even saying that - there has been no Biden address to the nation about how cataclysmic this is - "gotta stop variants!" They clearly know how stupid everyone is, they don't care, or something more sinister is going on. Based on the behavior of the media, Silicon Valley, and governments around the world I think it should be quite obvious by now what that ...was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SCBills said: People will say “oh, that interstate travel thing won’t actually happen”… Those people are either lying to you, or haven’t heard of The Overton Window. We were called conspiracy theorists last year for talking about vaccine passports… and now half the country just thinks it’s normal. The interstate travel thing already happened once. Rhode Island had checkpoints and police knocking on doors to keep New Yorkers out of the state. Republican Governor. Passports were common sense. Everyone knew that was coming. Edited August 13, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Governor said: The interstate travel thing already happened once. Rhode Island had checkpoints and police knocking on doors to keep New Yorkers out of the state. Republican Governor. This isn't February 2020 anymore. And this isn't the movie I Am Legend. More like Idiocracy. 7 minutes ago, Governor said: Passports were common sense. Everyone knew that was coming. You are not a serious person. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 The irony isn’t lost on me that those warning us of perceived authoritarianism during the Trump years, are now cheering actual authoritarianism during the Biden years. It’s all political theatre. These people don’t actually stand for anything other than power over those who disagree with them. Take one look at the kids in cages under Biden to see their hypocrisy. They never cared about those kids. They only cared about how they could use those kids. They were never worried that Trump was a fascist, because they know fascism… They see it in themselves. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: This isn't February 2020 anymore. And this isn't the movie I Am Legend. More like Idiocracy. You are not a serious person. What time is the reinstatement ceremony today? There is a ceremony right? Pillow guy said it was today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: They were never worried that Trump was a fascist, because they know fascism… They see it in themselves. Socialism Is Modern Fascism FTA: What is the primary component leading to the inextricable tie between socialism and authoritarian government? Complete intolerance of any opinions or beliefs that diverge from that of the Party. As George Orwell so eloquently wrote, “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Does this idea of “thought fascism” sound familiar? Look at cancel culture. Consider censorship, and social media’s growing role in helping to further socialist aims by inundating its users with progressive values. Think about how media in general, via stringent censorship, keeps individuals from considering all pertinent information. Our society, our democracy, and our way of life are predicated on the idea of the free exchange of ideas and rational argumentation. It should be up to individuals to decide for themselves what to believe. Taking away that choice is not only condescending and insulting to our intelligence, but engenders a significant degree of mind control. Often, we can no longer even engage in a rational debate with a radical leftist without the latter spraying spittle into our face, flying into an apoplectic rage, and/or attempting to ruin our lives because we dare to disagree. Biden’s task is easy. He simply has to throw his weight around to muzzle free speech and influence society’s cancelation of anyone who dares to speak out and disavow ideas such as critical race theory, defund the police, or vaccine mandates. You see it in academia, business, sports, pop culture, media. You see it in your social and family life. We are no longer allowed to speak our minds. There is currently no legal ramification, though we are not far from this eventuality. But the consequences to one’s career, one’s social status, one’s ability to live as a free individual are just as debilitating, if not more so. We are significantly closer to an ideologically totalitarian state than most are willing to admit. Socialism is, and has always been, fascism. Make no mistake, we are at war for our very way of life, for our ability to exercise our basic individual liberty, guaranteed by our Constitution. https://redstate.com/heartlandinstitute/2021/08/13/socialism-is-modern-fascism-n425246 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, SCBills said: The irony isn’t lost on me that those warning us of perceived authoritarianism during the Trump years, are now cheering actual authoritarianism during the Biden years. It’s all political theatre. These people don’t actually stand for anything other than power over those who disagree with them. Take one look at the kids in cages under Biden to see their hypocrisy. They never cared about those kids. They only cared about how they could use those kids. They were never worried that Trump was a fascist, because they know fascism… They see it in themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: This isn't February 2020 anymore. And this isn't the movie I Am Legend. More like Idiocracy. You’re the farmer spraying Gatorade on the crops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Sundancer said: “Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.” Patently false statement. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210728/pfizer-vaccine-protection-wanes-after-6-months-study-finds https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-health-israel-coronavirus-pandemic-775e772a7507bcab708e9eea4bdcc50a https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients I should have stated people who are keeping up with the news know, not people like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210728/pfizer-vaccine-protection-wanes-after-6-months-study-finds https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-health-israel-coronavirus-pandemic-775e772a7507bcab708e9eea4bdcc50a https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients I should have stated people who are keeping up with the news know, not people like you NIH Collins was on Bret Baier last night. His response to this question was along the lines “ we know they work for 6 months, still not sure past that”. Again , paraphrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, B-Man said: Young Black New Yorkers simply playing follow the leader. I wonder how many blacks she's slaughtered with this horribly irresponsible comment. Getting elected matters. Young black lives must not, to her. What a mess. Edited August 13, 2021 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210728/pfizer-vaccine-protection-wanes-after-6-months-study-finds https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-health-israel-coronavirus-pandemic-775e772a7507bcab708e9eea4bdcc50a https://www.wogx.com/news/local-physician-already-prescribing-3rd-covid-19-vaccine-to-some-patients I should have stated people who are keeping up with the news know, not people like you The Israel data got corrected so that link is bunk. The booster so far is for…people with…wait for it….severely immuno compromised systems. Oh and your pre print Pfizer data on 23(!) people is about titers. Waning is not “vaccines don’t last after 6 months.” And titers that wane mean next to nothing for the body to mount an immune response, which is why ALL studies have shown that so far, excepting immunity compromised people, vaccines remain robustly effective for all studied participants since they started studying patients. You seem like a really well read science guy so I’m sure you’ve read the peer reviewed journal articles, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Tiberius said: Amy Barrett tells anti-vaxxers to F off! https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-barrett-denies-appeal-from-indiana-university-students-fighting-covid-19-vaccine-mandate Ha ha So, you like her now? 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: We need to vaccinate to "prevent mutations" might be the lowest point in the history of civilization. I don't know, I think Germany and Japan ganging up to take over the world was a lower point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Sorry dude, this attitude makes me ill. "I'm under 50 so I'm not gonna die nah nanna nah nah. You can't make me." This attitude is why we'll be masking etc forever as you so eloquently predict on a daily basis. Whatever happened to Americans coming together and working together in times of crisis for the greater good? WW II generation could and citizens of NY did when 6,000,000 people got polio vaccines in the course of a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Sorry dude, this attitude makes me ill. "I'm under 50 so I'm not gonna die nah nanna nah nah. You can't make me." This attitude is why we'll be masking etc forever as you so eloquently predict on a daily basis. Whatever happened to Americans coming together and working together in times of crisis for the greater good? WW II generation could and citizens of NY did when 6,000,000 people got polio vaccines in the course of a month. Post the latest info for us on Pfizer vs Delta. This doesn't end with vaccines and fake "percent of population vaccinated" goals. THEY'RE LYING. THERE IS NO STOPPING THE VIRUS and that's what they are slow rolling you to. They know it - they aren't telling you. Myself and many here like me have been eloquently posting why for you for over 18 months. In about 2 months - revisit this - you are going to see stories of people that got Pfizer in February and are in the ICU. Thousands of them. And rinse repeat into 2022 and beyond. It's never going to end until the virus becomes a permanent cold or we stop hiding like its the end times. YEARS Why do you think suddenly DeSantis is pushing treatment drugs (yea he's got skin in the game but no one else forcing you to do what you've been doing for 18 months does)..... it's either treatments or vaccines every 6 months for 330 million and 8 billion people. Or we could just move on and choose to live the next decade on our terms. Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Sorry dude, this attitude makes me ill. "I'm under 50 so I'm not gonna die nah nanna nah nah. You can't make me." This attitude is why we'll be masking etc forever as you so eloquently predict on a daily basis. Whatever happened to Americans coming together and working together in times of crisis for the greater good? WW II generation could and citizens of NY did when 6,000,000 people got polio vaccines in the course of a month. You’re kidding right? Now let me say, I’m already fully vaccinated, but if you think our little corner of the vaccinated planet is going to snuff this out I’ve got swamp land to sell you. What are you proposing? Building a wall around the United States? Wait…there’s an idea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 GQP: Let the children die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You’re kidding right? Now let me say, I’m already fully vaccinated, but if you think our little corner of the vaccinated planet is going to snuff this out I’ve got swamp land to sell you. What are you proposing? Building a wall around the United States? Wait…there’s an idea! They have no answer to this. So they're going to dangerously double down and side with the thugs in power They voted for every time. That's what I mean by this is dangerous. Half the population blindingly siding with the other half (hahaha see @BillStimepost above perfect!) no matter what everything else be dammed.......Screw your freedom. Never seen this in history before, man I wonder how it plays out. Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: GQP: Let the children die You’re free to keep your kids at home. The rest of us are going outside to play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: They have no answer to this. So they're going to dangerously double down and side with the thugs in power They voted for every time. That's what I mean by this is dangerous. Half the population blindingly siding with the other half (hahaha see @BillStimepost above perfect!) no matter what everything else be dammed.......Screw your freedom. Never seen this in history before, man I wonder how it plays out. Yep. No idea how this could all play out. Better get to zero Covid fast folks: Domestic extremists may launch attacks over COVID-19 restrictions: DHS Domestic extremist groups may use new COVID-19 restrictions as an excuse to launch violent attacks, according to a warning in a new bulletin from the Department of Homeland Security. "Pandemic-related stressors have contributed to increased societal strains and tensions, driving several plots by domestic violent extremists, and they may contribute to more violence this year," the bulletin, released Friday, states. The Department of Homeland Security said the risk of violence by racially and ethnically motivated extremists, as well as anti-government and anti-authority groups, will be a "national threat priority for the United States." https://www.businessinsider.com/domestic-extremists-may-launch-attacks-over-covid-restrictions-dhs-2021-8 The media and the country are out of control. Edited August 13, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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