Just Jack Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Going through some old photos and came across one concert I went to a couple years ago that the artist said would be their last tour ever. It got me thinking of other artists and groups that said it was there last tour, yet 5-10 years later they do another last tour ever. Realistically, if you bought tickets because it was supposed to be their last tour, then a few years down the road they do another tour, would you sue for the price of your tickets back, since it was not their last tour ever after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Going through some old photos and came across one concert I went to a couple years ago that the artist said would be their last tour ever. It got me thinking of other artists and groups that said it was there last tour, yet 5-10 years later they do another last tour ever. Realistically, if you bought tickets because it was supposed to be their last tour, then a few years down the road they do another tour, would you sue for the price of your tickets back, since it was not their last tour ever after all? Jeebus...Cellino need the work that bad? Can't he just pick up a few cases Rudy had to drop? Edited June 27, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just consider that they are a few years older now and the show probably won't be as good as it was then.... especially if they are old-school bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I think that Kiss is doing their 4th last tour this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Reason why not sue: Laywers screw you getting most of money and you get a coupon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Motley Crue had to pay a stupid amount of money to come out of retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 King Crimson is doing their final tour this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Good question but only if they specified how long their final tour would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: King Crimson is doing their final tour this summer. Where did you see that it was their final tour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, T&C said: Where did you see that it was their final tour? I leapt to a conclusion. https://www.ajc.com/life/music-blog/king-crimson-will-reopen-fox-theatre-will-farewell-tour-stop-in-july/CIEGEEXL4FCZBCZDOXNEK7IDJE/ Quote While not officially a “farewell” tour, King Crimson said the band has no plans to tour beyond this year. They ain't spring chickens. And Fripp gets more views doing his Sunday Lunch mini concerts with wife Toyah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Where is the “HELL NO” option? Sometimes it’s hype to sell tickets, sometimes it’s how they feel at the moment. They aren’t allowed to change their mind, like the rest of us? It happens. Be a grown up and know it may or may not play out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Reason #745,253 why Rush was so great. They said during the R40 tour that "it may be the last tour of this magnitude". Didn't say final tour, but that it may not be at that large scale. Ended up being the last tour. Even with Neil's passing, Geddy and Alex didn't just go out, find another drummer, and try to cash in some more. Edited June 28, 2021 by Draconator Grammar is hard at 12:15 am 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) I saw Bob Seger'a pre-covid last tour show. While his voice wasn't as strong as he was in his youth for 70 years old that man still put on a helluva show. In terms of suing, am sure there is some fine print on the ticket that would disallow you to. Edited June 28, 2021 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I saw the Who in 1982 and it was billed as their final tour. According to Wikipedia they are still touring. That's humorous, not something to sue over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I saw the Who in 1982 and it was billed as their final tour. According to Wikipedia they are still touring. That's humorous, not something to sue over. Grateful Dead did the Fare Thee Well tour in 2015 billed as their last concerts. Yet here we are in 2021 and Bob Weir is frontman for Dead and Co still touring with the two drummers in Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I’ve contacted my attorney, @BringBackFergy, about suing you for creating this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I’ve contacted my attorney, @BringBackFergy, about suing you for creating this thread. I hope this lawsuit goes better than my 2016 suit against the Buffalo Bills when I bought season tix based on their "Run Deep" motto. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 58 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I saw the Who in 1982 and it was billed as their final tour. According to Wikipedia they are still touring. That's humorous, not something to sue over. Technically, they billed that as their "First Farewell Tour." They didn't rule out anything in the future. And to the OP, I have no problem with a band changing its mind. I can choose to see or to skip subsequent tours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I saw Ozzy on his "No More Tours," tour in 1992. That was followed by his "Retirement Sucks" tour, then years of Ozz Fest tours, leading to his No More Tours 2 tour, which has been going since 2018. He's like the Brett Favre of rock. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Saw The Who 3 times on the farewell Tour '82. Seen them a few times since.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, nucci said: Saw The Who 3 times on the farewell Tour '82. Seen them a few times since.... Sounds like their bank accounts 'fare well'...😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 https://hardrockdaddy.com/2013/10/30/hard-rock-music-time-machine-1982-the-whos-farewell-tour-shea-stadium-ny/ 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: Technically, they billed that as their "First Farewell Tour." They didn't rule out anything in the future. And to the OP, I have no problem with a band changing its mind. I can choose to see or to skip subsequent tours. I don't recall that stipulation at all. So I went looking and I did find references to 'First Farewell Tour' but I question whether that came after the fact. Check out the article from 1982 below and another from 2013 - there's no hint at all that 1982 wasn't billed as their farewell tour. I'm happy to be proven wrong on this, but I don't remember ever hearing that 1982 was a First Farewell. https://www.nytimes.com/1982/10/12/arts/pop-the-who-british-rockers-on-farewell-tour.html https://hardrockdaddy.com/2013/10/30/hard-rock-music-time-machine-1982-the-whos-farewell-tour-shea-stadium-ny/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: https://hardrockdaddy.com/2013/10/30/hard-rock-music-time-machine-1982-the-whos-farewell-tour-shea-stadium-ny/ I don't recall that stipulation at all. So I went looking and I did find references to 'First Farewell Tour' but I question whether that came after the fact. Check out the article from 1982 below and another from 2013 - there's no hint at all that 1982 wasn't billed as their farewell tour. I'm happy to be proven wrong on this, but I don't remember ever hearing that 1982 was a First Farewell. https://www.nytimes.com/1982/10/12/arts/pop-the-who-british-rockers-on-farewell-tour.html https://hardrockdaddy.com/2013/10/30/hard-rock-music-time-machine-1982-the-whos-farewell-tour-shea-stadium-ny/ I don't think it was an official designation, I just remember Pete saying it in an interview when they announced the tour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Bob Seger’s farewell tour was definitely not a disappointment as far as those tours go - he could definitely still put on a quality show. Kenny Rogers, while his vocals were limited and he had do do the show seated, was a great show more so for the story telling aspect of his illustrious career. Motley Crue, OTOH, can just go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I wonder if this litigation thing could carry over to TSW threads?...🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I’ve contacted my attorney, @BringBackFergy, about suing you for creating this thread. I think if you look back at my OP, I never said this was my final post. Edited June 28, 2021 by Just Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 12:47 PM, Just Jack said: I think if you look back at my OP, I never said this was my final post. We were holding out hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/27/2021 at 3:18 PM, Rico said: Just consider that they are a few years older now and the show probably won't be as good as it was then.... especially if they are old-school bands. Kind of a funny phenomenon I've seen a few times is old rock bands sucking up a storm in middle age, then somehow getting better- not prime, but better- when they re-emerge as geezers. I remember the Who's Last 1982 tour radio broadcast as a kid, they were a shell of themselves. I saw them live in 1989... (1982 was not their last tour afterall!) and they were in some weird, boring, over-produced phase... then in 1994- they were Dang Good! Not Live at Leeds good, but still dang good, and back to their more stripped-down selves. The SB show was garbage and I haven't seen them since Entwhistle died, so no idea what they are about nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Kind of a funny phenomenon I've seen a few times is old rock bands sucking up a storm in middle age, then somehow getting better- not prime, but better- when they re-emerge as geezers. I remember the Who's Last 1982 tour radio broadcast as a kid, they were a shell of themselves. I saw them live in 1989... (1982 was not their last tour afterall!) and they were in some weird, boring, over-produced phase... then in 1994- they were Dang Good! Not Live at Leeds good, but still dang good, and back to their more stripped-down selves. The SB show was garbage and I haven't seen them since Entwhistle died, so no idea what they are about nowadays. The Quadrophenia tour of '96/'97 included the best Who shows I've ever seen. (I saw them in '82, twice in '89, '96, '97, 2000, 2002, 2015, and twice in 2019.) On the 2019 tour, they did a lot from Tommy and Quadrophenia, complete with a symphony orchestra. The conductor, first violinist, and first cellist toured with the band. The rest of the orchestra was made up of orchestra members from whatever city they were playing in. The musicians would get the sheet music in advance, practice it on their own, and the day of the show they did a short rehearsal with the touring band. Both shows were outstanding, and Pete was very complimentary about the orchestra musicians being able to learn the music and play it flawlessly with only one complete rehearsal. Yeah, they weren't stripped down rock shows, but they really showed off what a great composer Townshend is. If I believed in reincarnation, I'd think he was Beethoven in a previous life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Kind of a funny phenomenon I've seen a few times is old rock bands sucking up a storm in middle age, then somehow getting better- not prime, but better- when they re-emerge as geezers. I remember the Who's Last 1982 tour radio broadcast as a kid, they were a shell of themselves. I saw them live in 1989... (1982 was not their last tour afterall!) and they were in some weird, boring, over-produced phase... then in 1994- they were Dang Good! Not Live at Leeds good, but still dang good, and back to their more stripped-down selves. The SB show was garbage and I haven't seen them since Entwhistle died, so no idea what they are about nowadays. I do think the material played can make a difference. Touring behind a POS album like It’s Hard in 1982 (which I also saw) wouldn’t be as good as a later Tommy or Quad show (which I didn’t). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: The Quadrophenia tour of '96/'97 included the best Who shows I've ever seen. (I saw them in '82, twice in '89, '96, '97, 2000, 2002, 2015, and twice in 2019.) On the 2019 tour, they did a lot from Tommy and Quadrophenia, complete with a symphony orchestra. The conductor, first violinist, and first cellist toured with the band. The rest of the orchestra was made up of orchestra members from whatever city they were playing in. The musicians would get the sheet music in advance, practice it on their own, and the day of the show they did a short rehearsal with the touring band. Both shows were outstanding, and Pete was very complimentary about the orchestra musicians being able to learn the music and play it flawlessly with only one complete rehearsal. Yeah, they weren't stripped down rock shows, but they really showed off what a great composer Townshend is. If I believed in reincarnation, I'd think he was Beethoven in a previous life. It was the Quad tour- I got the year wrong- That show was as good as I ever could have hoped to see them in the post-Moon era!! Townshend's writing nearly single-handedly got me through my teen years, haha. It's weird discovering their early stuff as a teen, 20 years after the fact, and gravitating so heavily toward it. Once I heard the first bomb-drop of Armenia City, and everything of that era, I was just amazed at how it overpowered all the 80's crap... my generation was listening to. ) Good to hear Townser is still pulling out interesting takes on their music- he can definitely hold his own with the all-timers! (not to make you too jelly, but I've got a bunch of original presses/UK originals, Sealed original Live at Leeds, Moon's solo album, Entwhistle's solos- a couple sealed, bootlegs, etc. on vinyl. ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Was at Slayer in 2019, at a festival. Kerry King and Tommy Araya at the end of their set just walked back and forth from side to side, stopping and taking in the adulation. Chanting of “Slayer… Slayer…” Araya commented that this was their last trip and will miss it. With the crowd cheering for ages, well past the set. Was the last band. (Priest and Anthrax were also there). Seemed like it was a decent amount of time. Hoping it wasn’t. Seen them every trip to Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Rico said: I do think the material played can make a difference. Touring behind a POS album like It’s Hard in 1982 (which I also saw) wouldn’t be as good as a later Tommy or Quad show (which I didn’t). I also think their drummer choices (Kenny 'timekeeper' Jones and Simon Phillips) were pretty odd considering their sound was based on a frenetic K. Moon style. Ringo's kid was a huuuuge return to normal- damn fine drummer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Just glad I went out on a high note after seeing many major acts perform mid '70's through early '90's and then shutting it down. Seeing McCartney and Springsteen in 2016 were my swan songs. I will never concert attend again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 My apologies if this is not true to the original spirit of the thread, but this band actually got better after they sobered-up. In my younger days, I'd have never believed something like that was possible, until I lived it, live in concert, with my own two ear-holes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philly McButterpants Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 11:26 AM, WhoTom said: I don't think it was an official designation, I just remember Pete saying it in an interview when they announced the tour. The shirt I had from that show had "First Farewell Tour" emblazoned on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 5:55 PM, Shamrock said: Was at Slayer in 2019, at a festival. Kerry King and Tommy Araya at the end of their set just walked back and forth from side to side, stopping and taking in the adulation. Chanting of “Slayer… Slayer…” Araya commented that this was their last trip and will miss it. With the crowd cheering for ages, well past the set. Was the last band. (Priest and Anthrax were also there). Seemed like it was a decent amount of time. Hoping it wasn’t. Seen them every trip to Australia. Was at a Slayer show on their Farewell Tour. They kept adding shows which I think was cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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