Ghost_002! Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 4 hours ago, DCOrange said: It's an improvement for sure but it's still bad relative to most teams in the NFL. I'm not really convinced that they have the talent at the skill positions to prop up what I believe are two bad starting QBs at this point in time. Nothing offensively will ever help Cam Newton at this point, he is done in my opinion, but their TEs are now the best in division. Their RB maybe even 3rd down back is the best in their division, and their Oline is will be pretty good. Wide outs are an upgrade, anything is better from last year and the won seven games considering. BB could win with serviceable wide outs, don't need top tier wide outs win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 4 hours ago, MJS said: Stidham has played. And he has been terrible every time he has touched the field. So terrible, in fact, that they eventually chose to just stick with Cam Newton, who was the worst starting QB in the league last year and threw more interceptions than TD's. that's not completely true...stidham in very very limited appearances (garbage time) had completed 50% percent of his passes with 2 TDs and 3 INTs. He doesn't see the field because the coaching staff does not believe he has what it takes to be a leader.(take charge kind of person) Really nobody knows what he is. That's not saying he is a hidden gem or could be a hidden gem. Just he didnt do enough in the off season/training camp for the coaching staff to think he wanted the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 2:44 PM, dorquemada said: Time will tell I guess but whatever he's lacking in athleticism he makes up for in accuracy and good decision making. Sound like anyone we know? Nate Peterman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said: that's not completely true...stidham in very very limited appearances (garbage time) had completed 50% percent of his passes with 2 TDs and 3 INTs. He doesn't see the field because the coaching staff does not believe he has what it takes to be a leader.(take charge kind of person) Really nobody knows what he is. That's not saying he is a hidden gem or could be a hidden gem. Just he didnt do enough in the off season/training camp for the coaching staff to think he wanted the job. That is just your own guess. What is it based on? It is far more likely that he just isn't good at playing. Maybe he can develop. That's always a possibility. But he has looked like hot garbage so far, as indicated by those horrible stats you included in your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: that's not completely true...stidham in very very limited appearances (garbage time) had completed 50% percent of his passes with 2 TDs and 3 INTs. He doesn't see the field because the coaching staff does not believe he has what it takes to be a leader.(take charge kind of person) Really nobody knows what he is. That's not saying he is a hidden gem or could be a hidden gem. Just he didnt do enough in the off season/training camp for the coaching staff to think he wanted the job. Jets fan argued that Hackenburg might be a great QB because they never saw him play a down... ya know, until he was out of the league. Stidham has an advantage in that he's played a few downs to remove doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Jets fan argued that Hackenburg might be a great QB because they never saw him play a down... ya know, until he was out of the league. Stidham has an advantage in that he's played a few downs to remove doubt. You are completely incorrect about Hackenburg we saw him in the AAF and he was impressive they benched him almost immediately. We know exactly how bad he was, even at a minor league level. Your point is completely valid but I wanted to mention how bad he was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 12:31 PM, Bill from NYC said: Did LSD make a comeback? never went away for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 16 hours ago, HappyDays said: Nate Peterman? The first thing that comes to mind with Nate Peterman is good decision making, said nobody ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Riv Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 21 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: Nothing offensively will ever help Cam Newton at this point, he is done in my opinion, but their TEs are now the best in division. Their RB maybe even 3rd down back is the best in their division, and their Oline is will be pretty good. Wide outs are an upgrade, anything is better from last year and the won seven games considering. BB could win with serviceable wide outs, don't need top tier wide outs win. Newton had a huge uphill battle last year with old injuries still effecting him, no offseason, a complicated offense, got COVID, etc. To pencil in his last year's numbers for this year would be a serious leap to a conclusion. I'm guessing starts every game for them this year, barring injury (which could easily happen). As far as the rest of that team goes, we have them in QB1 and WR1 by a lot. The rest of their entire team from owner, coach, facilities, players, etc. is equal or better than ours. In spite of their terrible offense last year, they're D let up fewer points than us and only broke down at the end of the season when it was pretty clear they weren't going anywhere. Last year was exactly that, last year. I expect to beat them, but I don't expect to beat them twice again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, MJS said: That is just your own guess. What is it based on? It is far more likely that he just isn't good at playing. Maybe he can develop. That's always a possibility. But he has looked like hot garbage so far, as indicated by those horrible stats you included in your reply. I am from Boston. It was reported the coaching staff does not like the fact he doesn't have that take charge attitude. Over the summer when he should of came into camp with the intend to beat out whoever was there, he was back home attending a wedding. Then he got hurt in camp and again never really acted like he wanted it bad enough. 17 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Jets fan argued that Hackenburg might be a great QB because they never saw him play a down... ya know, until he was out of the league. Stidham has an advantage in that he's played a few downs to remove doubt. yea that organization man...just something about them i feel whoever goes there will always suck no matter what. Watch Darnold become most improved player next year. Edited May 5, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, P Riv said: Newton had a huge uphill battle last year with old injuries still effecting him, no offseason, a complicated offense, got COVID, etc. To pencil in his last year's numbers for this year would be a serious leap to a conclusion. I'm guessing starts every game for them this year, barring injury (which could easily happen). As far as the rest of that team goes, we have them in QB1 and WR1 by a lot. The rest of their entire team from owner, coach, facilities, players, etc. is equal or better than ours. In spite of their terrible offense last year, they're D let up fewer points than us and only broke down at the end of the season when it was pretty clear they weren't going anywhere. Last year was exactly that, last year. I expect to beat them, but I don't expect to beat them twice again. Newton is just god awful. i dont wanna spend a whole year watching his hurky/jerky throwing motion, oh god no! But you are right, i think that will be the case. More than likely BB is going to "red shirt" Jones for a year and play Newton. Unless Jones really shows signs of being ready now plus injuries like you said. Yea i can say that is a fair assessment for both team. Yea, NE defense from last year will not be the same in anyway this season. That was the COVID-team so to speak. BB didnt intent to play some of the players he had to player. at times he was using Safeties as LBs because they were so thin. This year i expect them to be totally different, very solid and deep on the defensive side of the ball. They should make the playoffs/wild card should be able to compete for the division....keyword: should be...but we will see. Edited May 5, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Riv Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I think that he did what was asked of him for the most part. They were very conservative in the passing department and totally dependant on the run game. With a better team around him on both sides of the ball, another year in the system, etc., I just don't expect the same thing from him or them as a team. I suspect they will be trouble. Notes on his passing, for perspective: https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2021/03/12/cam-newton-2020-season-advanced-stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: Watch Darnold become most improved player next year. If that happens Gase shouldn't be allowed near a Quarterback ever again, Tannehill thrived once he left, and if Darnold does too Gase is the common denominator. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I can't vote in this poll, but I vote Zach Wilson to fail. 1) He has Josh Rosen's build 2) he plays for the Jets 3) Jones plays for the evil hoodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I hope Wilson is behind center when they play the Bills. And I hope the Bills defense uses and abuses him in every which way they can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Zach Wilson, basically because he plays for the Jets. The Jets can and will destroy anything or anyone they touch. The Patriots at least have Josh McDaniels (despicable human but good coach) that can make an offensive gamelan around what he has available. Maybe Saleh changes the Jets but I wouldn't put my paycheck on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 10:44 PM, Ghost_002! said: To add..most Franchises do not follow up with the second coming to their Franchise QB. Saint didn't Pittsburgh doesn't have one Colts had to tank to get luck which he became injured Denver didn't w Elway..and waited awhile to get Manning The fins didn't after Marino..there are a host of other teams. BB does deserve some criticism for drafting but you guys are not doing your homework Cause he drafts decent defensive players..he sucks on the offensive end of the ball but again most Franchises do not draft their second coming.. Who knows if Love can play after Rodgers leaves... I mean, we drafted Josh when Nate Peterman was in the building. So who is to say… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Ok Zach Wilson’s mom is a Karen who definitely buys Tito’s by the gallon ... full cringe Edited May 13, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) I’m not worried about “Big” Mac or baby Jimmy Clausen (with headband) Edited May 13, 2021 by KingBoots8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Jones because he is on NE and Bill is the GOAT HC. They have a better team than the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Give fields a bump for actually understanding how madden ratings work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 1:31 PM, DrDawkinstein said: Zach Wilson Mac Jones Tua lol Not worried about any of them. Actually pretty thrilled that there are possibly TWO Bama QBs starting in our division. Jets will be taking a chance on the 3rd one 2 years from now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 3:04 PM, Ghost_002! said: that's not completely true...stidham in very very limited appearances (garbage time) had completed 50% percent of his passes with 2 TDs and 3 INTs. He doesn't see the field because the coaching staff does not believe he has what it takes to be a leader.(take charge kind of person) Really nobody knows what he is. That's not saying he is a hidden gem or could be a hidden gem. Just he didnt do enough in the off season/training camp for the coaching staff to think he wanted the job. Stidham tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I went with Wilson as he has a great chance of hitting that bomb pass rolling to his left during warmups each game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/5/2021 at 1:55 PM, Ghost_002! said: Newton is just god awful. i dont wanna spend a whole year watching his hurky/jerky throwing motion, oh god no! But you are right, i think that will be the case. More than likely BB is going to "red shirt" Jones for a year and play Newton. Unless Jones really shows signs of being ready now plus injuries like you said. Yea i can say that is a fair assessment for both team. Yea, NE defense from last year will not be the same in anyway this season. That was the COVID-team so to speak. BB didnt intent to play some of the players he had to player. at times he was using Safeties as LBs because they were so thin. This year i expect them to be totally different, very solid and deep on the defensive side of the ball. They should make the playoffs/wild card should be able to compete for the division....keyword: should be...but we will see. As a Bills fan, I would love to see Cam Newton to start for New England opposed to Jones. MJ seems to me the most pro-ready guy minus Lawrence and I think with a strong defense they can get to 8-8 - 9-7. I'm just not sure if his ceiling is high enough. McCarron also had a stellar career at Alabama and besides being more physically imposing I'm wondering what else Jones can bring to the table. If he can at least be average then New England will be able to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Mac Davis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Long term I'm worried about both. This season I'm not too concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Mac when he meets Hoyer: “Dad?!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 3:20 PM, Ghost_002! said: Yea something tells me no matter who the Pats drafted plenty of Blils fans will down play it. Even if it was Jesus himself. It’s not like he can walk on water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 3:20 PM, Ghost_002! said: Yea something tells me no matter who the Pats drafted plenty of Blils fans will down play it. Even if it was Jesus himself. Don't worry you have the media to over play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 The Bills are good again, I don't worry about other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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