YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 RT? Guard? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custcarcen Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Four ND OL are expected to be drafted per "Path To The Draft" this AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Any news if the Bills were looking at Tommy Tremble or Daelin Hayes?? I’d rather have those two on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Special K said: Any news if the Bills were looking at Tommy Tremble?? This would scare me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Special K said: Any news if the Bills were looking at Tommy Tremble or Daelin Hayes?? I’d rather have those two on the Bills. I don’t know but they’ve “met” with Tremble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Wow. Smart play to hit the brakes lines that. Wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Our Mock Draft 1st Round pick was on display as well, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Errrrr. Not Eichenberg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Not sure why they’re listing the 1-2 round player at a position we don’t need (LT) when they have 3 later round players at positions we do need (IOL)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Not sure why they’re listing the 1-2 round player at a position we don’t need (LT) when they have 3 later round players at positions we do need (IOL)... Again.........when it comes to key positions......LT being one of them........when you need them you REALLY need them. Desperately. Interior OL you can always patch up with free agents. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: This would scare me. Why? He’s not Travis Kelce, but he’s a nasty run blocker, can play TE or H-back, and is a capable pass catcher....worth a mid-round pick, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Special K said: Any news if the Bills were looking at Tommy Tremble or Daelin Hayes?? I’d rather have those two on the Bills. God I hope not they are both fringe college players... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Not sure why they’re listing the 1-2 round player at a position we don’t need (LT) when they have 3 later round players at positions we do need (IOL)...0 Maybe coaches think he can play G in rookie contract and replace any of the starters in case of injury or if one of the starters get greedy and want more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, poblano said: Maybe coaches think he can play G in rookie contract and replace any of the starters in case of injury or if one of the starters get greedy and want more money It’s possible, but I haven’t seen anything about him playing G. And really, my issue isn’t if they are looking at him- it’s the stupid twitter account listing him as a probably reason they’re at ND while calling him a LT and ignoring all the other ND OL that make more sense for us. It’s just to get people to freak out and go “woah! Why are we scouting LT’s??!” When the twitter page has no idea what it’s talking about. But that’s pretty on brand for Buffalo Fanatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Special K said: Why? He’s not Travis Kelce, but he’s a nasty run blocker, can play TE or H-back, and is a capable pass catcher....worth a mid-round pick, IMO. I was joking. His name is Tremble, so I said it would *scare* me. :D 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseBill Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Special K said: Why? He’s not Travis Kelce, but he’s a nasty run blocker, can play TE or H-back, and is a capable pass catcher....worth a mid-round pick, IMO. According to some, he's also great on Special Teams. Heard him on NFL Network the other morning (being interviewed by world-class blowhard Charlie Weiss) and he sounds like a versatile player who was under-utilized in the passing game but also sounds intelligent and loves football. Wouldn't surprise me if Bills had interest in him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I was joking. His name is Tremble, so I said it would *scare* me. i was going to say lay off the booze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Although I never hate an O-line pick for once I don't see the O-line being a massive need. I do think the Bills need some depth on the O-line. Assuming Ike is brought back they run about 7 deep on the O-line (Dawkins-Ford-Mitch-Mongo-D.Will as the starter and Ike and Bates off the bench) that's pretty solid but ideally you want to be 8 deep and adding a swing tackle in the draft is a good idea. But I don't think they need to do that in round 1. I think they dip in to the O-line pool in round 3 where they can fill a short term depth need and get some long term developmental prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I would prefer several other guys if they are going OL at 30 Teven Jenkins is my top pick of the guys stilll likely to be there Dillon Radunz is a better RT prospect than this guy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) His brother Tommy is going to be the starting MLB at Ohio state this year. That’s about all I know about him, other than he’s reportedly a great OT prospect. I would assume he’s a future RT for the Bills if they take him. Or if Dawkins gets hurt can play LT. Edited April 2, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I got no problems with picking an Offensive Lineman at pick 30. The OL was as big a problem as the defense against KC. I’m glad Beane brought back last years OL but Morse, Feliciano, and Williams are basically on 1 year deals so there’s definitely room to bring in an upgrade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) On 4/1/2021 at 6:05 AM, whatdrought said: It’s possible, but I haven’t seen anything about him playing G. And really, my issue isn’t if they are looking at him- it’s the stupid twitter account listing him as a probably reason they’re at ND while calling him a LT and ignoring all the other ND OL that make more sense for us. It’s just to get people to freak out and go “woah! Why are we scouting LT’s??!” When the twitter page has no idea what it’s talking about. But that’s pretty on brand for Buffalo Fanatics. “among the players they were viewing was...” vs ”probably the reason they are at ND” Edited April 2, 2021 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: I got no problems with picking an Offensive Lineman at pick 30. The OL was as big a problem as the defense against KC. I’m glad Beane brought back last years OL but Morse, Feliciano, and Williams are basically on 1 year deals so there’s definitely room to bring in an upgrade. I agree, so long as that OL projects as a future LT. And Eichenberg fits that bill. He would probably end up as the teams LT before his rookie deal ran out. Everyone assumes that Dawkins will just man the spot for 10 years without drop-off but every good LT isn't Jason Peters. If they get 6-7 good LT years out of Dawkins that would be great and then in steps a guy like Eichenberg who probably has the frame to hold the position down until about the same age at least. In the meantime Josh Allen has a lot of talent in front of him. Jenkins is a bit too Cody Ford-esque for me.......he's a better RT prospect but like Ford I don't think he has LT flexibility and he plays out of control at times and likes to tackle defenders and take unnecessary shots at them which exposes the team to killer penalties(like the critical personal foul that Ford drew in the Houston playoff game). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: “among the players they were viewing was...” vs ”probably the reason they are at ND” Right, but to intentionally highlight the first-second round LT instead of the 3 other guard prospects is intentionally to make people comment and say “are the bills looking for a left tackle???!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: Right, but to intentionally highlight the first-second round LT instead of the 3 other guard prospects is intentionally to make people comment and say “are the bills looking for a left tackle???!” while the name catches more interest by being a top guy... if they just said checking out ND OL you probably would assume the others and not him so including he was among those scouted lends pertinent content too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: while the name catches more interest by being a top guy... if they just said checking out ND OL you probably would assume the others and not him so including he was among those scouted lends pertinent content too. I would buy that, but the second tweet emphasizing “LT” was clearly about driving interactions (and here we are). Buffalo Fanatics is kinda that way sometimes, though, so it’s not unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 20 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I agree, so long as that OL projects as a future LT. And Eichenberg fits that bill. He would probably end up as the teams LT before his rookie deal ran out. Everyone assumes that Dawkins will just man the spot for 10 years without drop-off but every good LT isn't Jason Peters. If they get 6-7 good LT years out of Dawkins that would be great and then in steps a guy like Eichenberg who probably has the frame to hold the position down until about the same age at least. In the meantime Josh Allen has a lot of talent in front of him. Jenkins is a bit too Cody Ford-esque for me.......he's a better RT prospect but like Ford I don't think he has LT flexibility and he plays out of control at times and likes to tackle defenders and take unnecessary shots at them which exposes the team to killer penalties(like the critical personal foul that Ford drew in the Houston playoff game). Agree. Yes to Eich because I think he can play left tackle in the NFL. No to Jenkins because I don't think he can. Jenkins's agent is apparently ringing around teams telling them he can which says to me they are worried about RT only hurting his stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 He has a very strong and distinguished forename. I’m all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 6:33 PM, BADOLBILZ said: I agree, so long as that OL projects as a future LT. And Eichenberg fits that bill. He would probably end up as the teams LT before his rookie deal ran out. Everyone assumes that Dawkins will just man the spot for 10 years without drop-off but every good LT isn't Jason Peters. If they get 6-7 good LT years out of Dawkins that would be great and then in steps a guy like Eichenberg who probably has the frame to hold the position down until about the same age at least. In the meantime Josh Allen has a lot of talent in front of him. Jenkins is a bit too Cody Ford-esque for me.......he's a better RT prospect but like Ford I don't think he has LT flexibility and he plays out of control at times and likes to tackle defenders and take unnecessary shots at them which exposes the team to killer penalties(like the critical personal foul that Ford drew in the Houston playoff game). I like the unnecessary shots . It worked for Jensen from the Bucs that's a nasty dude right there. That early penalty he got Chris Jones to do was big it extended the drive and lead to a TD. Yea I see what your saying with the penalties but there be some going the other way at times in retaliation. I love me some nasty lineman . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I don't trust anyone named Liam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2021 Author Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerball said: I don't trust anyone named Liam. Liam Neeson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 8 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: I like the unnecessary shots . It worked for Jensen from the Bucs that's a nasty dude right there. That early penalty he got Chris Jones to do was big it extended the drive and lead to a TD. Yea I see what your saying with the penalties but there be some going the other way at times in retaliation. I love me some nasty lineman . The much more important aspect wrt drafting him in round 1 is that he's not a LT prospect, IMO. The part about him playing past the whistle is just part of his comp to Ford..........who has been a disappointment to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: The much more important aspect wrt drafting him in round 1 is that he's not a LT prospect, IMO. The part about him playing past the whistle is just part of his comp to Ford..........who has been a disappointment to say the least. I don’t get the hang up of “Round 1”... Its pick 30... so three picks later and it’s ok to pick him.? They picked Ford at 38 and were trying to move up higher... so I think if they like Jenkins I doubt the Round 1 / pick 30 thing is putting them off... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I don’t get the hang up of “Round 1”... Its pick 30... so three picks later and it’s ok to pick him.? They picked Ford at 38 and were trying to move up higher... so I think if they like Jenkins I doubt the Round 1 / pick 30 thing is putting them off... There isn't a line right at the end of round 1........I actually feel that you should not be using second round picks on lesser positions either...........the Ford pick was a mistake made reaching up for "need"......... I don't know that they've learned from that but they should have. But you should know that there IS a significant difference between pick 30 and 33.........it's called the 5th year option.............not valuable if you choose a RB or "RT only" and they pan out.........but very valuable if you get a good QB, pass rusher, CB1 or LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: There isn't a line right at the end of round 1........I actually feel that you should not be using second round picks on lesser positions either...........the Ford pick was a mistake made reaching up for "need"......... I don't know that they've learned from that but they should have. But you should know that there IS a significant difference between pick 30 and 33.........it's called the 5th year option.............not valuable if you choose a RB or "RT only" and they pan out.........but very valuable if you get a good QB, pass rusher, CB1 or LT. Yes I know there is a 5th year option .... We both know they aren’t taking a QB and I don’t believe they should be restricting the choice of who they take at 30 to the other 3 categories listed ... If they did could they possibly be caught “reaching for need” once again? Edited April 5, 2021 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I don’t believe they should be restricting who they pick to the other 3 categories listed this year ... The difference is that I have long term on-field and economic based reasons for my rationale..................you just believe they should draft whatever they need now..........I think that's a proven-unwise philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The difference is that I have long term on-field and economic based reasons for my rationale..................you just believe they should draft whatever they need now..........I think that's a proven-unwise philosophy. Well plenty of other teams ignore this and take other positions in Round 1. You talk the Chiefs up a lot but they took a RB in Round 1 last year . Im also actually saying the opposite of drafting for need by the way... Edited April 5, 2021 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Or you simply start your 5 best OL even if that means moving a less mobile OT inside to G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 As I recall the history, ND O-lineman do not have a good track record of success. When you have four linemen likely to be drafted from the same team the question is good coaching, or great players. I suggest the former. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: As I recall the history, ND O-lineman do not have a good track record of success. When you have four linemen likely to be drafted from the same team the question is good coaching, or great players. I suggest the former. Zack Martin was considered best O Lineman in NFL for a long time. Now Quentin Nelson is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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