Eagles trade pick 6 to Dolphins

[PrimeTime101]

Just now, Augie said:

First, mocks are just.....mocks.

 

Second, Cincinnati really needs OLine to keep the QB upright, so they could very well go that route. 

 

And third, Miami probably has TWO guys in mind and know they can get at least one of them at #6. 

I see Miami going EDGE or WR

[Mojo44]

2 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I've seen mocks with a Tackle going to Cinci.  I do think taking Pitts there would be the smart move for Cinci and I hope they nab him before the Dolphins.

I think this would be a good move for Cincinnati. There are a lot of good tackles in the draft but there is only one Pitts. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Even if it is Yolo (whom I trust implicitly for correct information), the thread title needs reworking.  I was trying to figure out how Philly got a hold of NPeterman. 🤨

Edited March 26, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013
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[Paup 1995MVP]

14 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

That's possible.  WR has been forecasted for them in every mock thus far.  WR is deep in this draft, though.  Give then Pitts and Gesicki and they are pulling a NE move.

But neither Miami or NE has a QB on their roster right now that can throw a football more then 10 yards in the air.  And we have Josh Allen and a whole bunch of talent.  We will be ruling our division for years to come.  

[DCOrange]

Great day for Phins fans. Pick up an extra 1st and 3rd while still getting their guy; impressive stuff. Obviously have to hope Tua pans out still but it's way too early to give up on him after a solid rookie year, especially considering what he was returning from and how bad his supporting cast was.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Augie said:

 

I’m good with them sticking with Tua. (Famous last words, I know...)

 

A 2022 1st round pick feels rich for me to go from 12 to 6, but I’m sure it’s not. 

 

I hope Kyle Pitts isn’t the guy they are targeting. He’s a MONSTER! Could be there at #6 with a run on QB’s. 

 

 

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They said that about Hockenson and Fant.  Engram... Howard... 

 

I'm not a big fan of TEs in the first.  I feel like they're rarely the impact players they're supposed to be, espeically on the rookie deal.  

 

Like who are the best TEs in the NFL - Kelce, Kittle, Waller, and probably Andrews.  None were acquired in the first.  

[Logic]

All the tight end fear is silly to me.

 

Last year, with both LBs battling injury all year, the Bills stunk at defending tight ends. This is true.

 

In 2019, however, the Bills defense allowed the third fewest yards to tight end of any team in the league. Defending TEs was a major STRENGTH.

 

So if the Phins take Kyle Pitts.....big deal! I hope they DO spend the 6th overall pick in a TE! 

[Victory Formation]

11 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

It's not going to be as easy next season......

I disagree. Josh Allen is a baller and I’m sure he’ll take another jump next year. We have a top 5 QB. The Phins, the Pats and the Jets do not. We got all our key players back, let’s see if we can rebuild this defense through the draft.

[H2o]

Obviously trading up for Finkle

[Captain Hindsight]

6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I find it so weird that NFL teams seem to place so little value on 1st round picks. Teams just giving them away like nothing. 

Without a QB, it doesnt make much sense to have a bunch. Look at Cleveland when they kept trading back and trading back then rolled out Kizer at QB.

 

I agree with you, I like more shots in the lotto, but i get why teams without a QB trade them. With a good QB, SF is a SB contender 

[HappyDays]

6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Personally, I think it would absolutely idiotic to give up on TUa at this point unless you could get the massage guy.  

 

I just can't remember the last time a rookie QB showed zero potential to play at an elite level and ended up amounting to anything. I guess Drew Brees is a good example but that's about it. I compare it to when Arizona gave up on Rosen early because he showed nothing his rookie year.

 

Worst of all I feel like Tua actually got worse throughout the season so there's no development at this point. Go back and rewatch the last Bills game. Tua was TERRIBLE in that game. Inaccurate passes, poor pocket presence, missed reads. He missed a wide open TD in the red zone on the opposite side of the field that he threw the ball. We totally blew the coverage and he just missed it.

 

It would be one thing if he had shown any elite traits but IMO there's nothing there to develop. I think his ceiling is average QB that you can get by with.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

I see Miami going EDGE or WR

 

Fuller being on a 1yr deal makes me think its someone like devonta smith who they can bring along slowly, and kick outside next year.  

[MAJBobby]

Yep 6. Perfect spot for their target Micah Parsons. 

7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I see Miami going EDGE or WR

Micah Parsons at 6. Just watch and see and finally get an NFL LBer they have been looking for, for almost a Decade. 
 

WR will maybe come with their 18th pick. 

Edited March 26, 2021 by MAJBobby

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m good with them sticking with Tua. (Famous last words, I know...)

 

A 2022 1st round pick feels rich for me to go from 12 to 6, but I’m sure it’s not. 

 

I hope Kyle Pitts isn’t the guy they are targeting. He’s a MONSTER! Could be there at #6 with a run on QB’s. 

 

It was a 3 way trade.  The fish in essence by trading 3 for 6 knowing 3 is a QB.

So they took a chance of 2 players going before they pick for a 2023 1st round and a 3rd rounder this year.

If they would be satisfied with 1 of 3 players it's a great move.

Atlanta is most likely NOT going with a WR.

 

Miami has so many picks this year they still can do almost anything.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

All the tight end fear is silly to me.

 

Last year, with both LBs battling injury all year, the Bills stunk at defending tight ends. This is true.

 

In 2019, however, the Bills defense allowed the third fewest yards to tight end of any team in the league. Defending TEs was a major STRENGTH.

 

So if the Phins take Kyle Pitts.....big deal! I hope they DO spend the 6th overall pick in a TE! 

 

Agreed.  Their defense is not the juggernaut that people believe it is.  If they leave it as is it could bite them a bit.  

 

Buffalo put up almost 1000 yards and 87 points in 2 games.  They dominated the jets twice, the 49ers with a mid-game QB switch, non-burrow bengals, and jags.  

[Logic]

There’s a good chance Penei Sewell is there at six.

 

No way they could pass up on drafting him to give them bookend tackles (with Austin Jackson) for Tua.

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

They said that about Hockenson and Fant.  Engram... Howard... 

 

I'm not a big fan of TEs in the first.  I feel like they're rarely the impact players they're supposed to be, espeically on the rookie deal.  

 

Like who are the best TEs in the NFL - Kelce, Kittle, Waller, and probably Andrews.  None were acquired in the first.  

 

I felt the same way......until I watched Pitts play. 

[mannc]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It was a 3 way trade.  The fish in essence by trading 3 for 6 knowing 3 is a QB.

So they took a chance of 2 players going before they pick for a 2023 1st round and a 3rd rounder this year.

If they would be satisfied with 1 of 3 players it's a great move.

Atlanta is most likely NOT going with a WR.

 

Miami has so many picks this year they still can do almost anything.

Miami is doing a very good job of rebuilding, but if they're wrong about Tua, it could all be for naught.  Thank God they weren't smart enough to draft Herbert last year. 

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

There’s a good chance Penei Sewell is there at six.

 

No way they could pass up on drafting him to give them bookend tackles (with Austin Jackson) for Tua.

 

If Sewell is there because all the QB’s go early, they played it very well. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

There’s a good chance Penei Sewell is there at six.

 

No way they could pass up on drafting him to give them bookend tackles (with Austin Jackson) for Tua.

 

I think jackson kinda sucks too.

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, mannc said:

Miami is doing a very good job of rebuilding, but if they're wrong about Tua, it could all be for naught.  Thank God they weren't smart enough to draft Herbert last year. 

 

Oh I agree about Herbert!  Right now I don't think anyone knows how good or bad Tua will eventually be.

They will have 2 1st's in 2023 so Tua has a 2 year window to show what he's got.

They could win a lot of games with a QB that performs pretty good.

[Jumpsuit Jim]

The Dolphins are reminding me of my fantasy league drafts once we are a few too many whatevers -and-everythings deep in it. 
 

I swear they will be announcing that they signed Keyshawn Johnson to a futures contract. 

[CaptnCoke11]

Dolphins made out like bandits in all of this 

[Bleedingreennc]

At least 3 1st round picks, and 2 2nd rounders for the Jets pick and i will be happy.

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, Logic said:

There’s a good chance Penei Sewell is there at six.

 

No way they could pass up on drafting him to give them bookend tackles (with Austin Jackson) for Tua.

 

I can’t see the Bengals passing on Sewell, but then again......there’s a reason that they are the Bengals!

[DCOrange]

If I were in their shoes, I take Sewell or Pitts at 6 and then go WR at 18 and suddenly your supporting cast around Tua is a lot better. Seems like they'll likely go WR at #6 though which is a mistake IMO.

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Dolphins made out like bandits in all of this 

How so?

[Rico]

Let them do what they want. Bills have Josh Allen, a proven Dolphin-killer, they don’t scare me at all.

[PrimeTime101]

20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Yep 6. Perfect spot for their target Micah Parsons. 

Micah Parsons at 6. Just watch and see and finally get an NFL LBer they have been looking for, for almost a Decade. 
 

WR will maybe come with their 18th pick. 

Yep I 100% agree with this.

22 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Fuller being on a 1yr deal makes me think its someone like devonta smith who they can bring along slowly, and kick outside next year.  

EXACTLY! now is the time for them to bring a WR and learn.

[machine gun kelly]

The fear factor on this board is sometimes silly.  We have an excellent team, good players coming back, Star coming back, and guys right now at least are healthy.  Sometimes I feel like it’s my responsibility to share this...

 

Until the other teams get a Josh Allen, we’re fine.  We also are smart not giving away draft picks, tons of cap space to the future, and resigning the guys at excellent contracts, we’re going to own the AFCE.  I never could think or say that when Brady was here.  Tua, Jimmy G., a rookie at the Jests.  Not even remotely worried.  It’s nice to love a team like the Hawks where Wilson hides a ton of problems.

 

 

[DCOrange]

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

How so?

They got an extra 1st and 3rd round pick and still get the guy they wanted.

[Success]

The Dolphins haul reminds me a little of the Minnesota trade that created those '90's Dallas teams.

 

Hope the Phins don't draft as well as Dallas did.

 

 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

The fear factor on this board is sometimes silly.  We have an excellent team, good players coming back, Star coming back, and guys right now at least are healthy.  Sometimes I feel like it’s my responsibility to share this...

 

Until the other teams get a Josh Allen, we’re fine.  We also are smart not giving away draft picks, tons of cap space to the future, and resigning the guys at excellent contracts, we’re going to own the AFCE.  I never could think or say that when Brady was here.  Tua, Jimmy G., a rookie at the Jests.  Not even remotely worried.  It’s nice to love a team like the Hawks where Wilson hides a ton of problems.

 

 

Don’t get me wrong, my first reaction was relief. I’m glad that they are sticking with Tua. I think his ceiling is serviceable. 

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

They got an extra 1st and 3rd round pick and still get the guy they wanted.

My issue is that a first round pick two years from now (especially from a team like SF) is not worth very much. It's not like getting an extra first this year.

[DCOrange]

Just now, mannc said:

My issue is that a first round pick two years from now (especially from a team like SF) is not worth very much. It's not like getting an extra first this year.

It's still just free value to them though. Also with that division I don't think it's any guarantee that pick doesn't end up being a mid-1st or better.

[davspo]

My first impression is, wow they are making moves and getting better.  My more timed impression is that the Bills have a QB and a great rooster.  I think I will just enjoy the moment.  We have what they want- its been a long, long time since we have been able to say that.  

[mannc]

Just now, DCOrange said:

It's still just free value to them though. Also with that division I don't think it's any guarantee that pick doesn't end up being a mid-1st or better.

I get it--they're still probably going to get their guy at 6, but in 2018 the Colts got three second round picks from the Jets to drop back from 3 to 6.  And the third they got this year is a comp pick, more like a fourth rounder, really.

[PrimeTime101]

25 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

They said that about Hockenson and Fant.  Engram... Howard... 

 

I'm not a big fan of TEs in the first.  I feel like they're rarely the impact players they're supposed to be, espeically on the rookie deal.  

 

Like who are the best TEs in the NFL - Kelce, Kittle, Waller, and probably Andrews.  None were acquired in the first.  

LOL do you know the damage a Hockenson could do on this team? 

 

Last year  he had a almost 800 yard 6 TD Year.. with Detroit He was their second best in yards ! lol  HERE?  thats a 900 yard season 8+ TD. You keep hating on Hockenson.. If there was a Hockenson where we draft this year? I would take him and not think second about it. 2020 Hockenson was second best TE in Fantasy. HE was third best in recieving yards... Do you have any clue what so ever what or who your talking about?

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, mannc said:

My issue is that a first round pick two years from now (especially from a team like SF) is not worth very much. It's not like getting an extra first this year.

 

If Tua doesn't work out that 2023 1st will come in handy.

Dolphins got 2 picks this year in the first 3 rounds.  5 picks in the top 81!

Edited March 26, 2021 by ColoradoBills

[Success]

1 minute ago, davspo said:

My first impression is, wow they are making moves and getting better.  My more timed impression is that the Bills have a QB and a great rooster.  I think I will just enjoy the moment.  We have what they want- its been a long, long time since we have been able to say that.  

 

A great point.  I spend too much time worrying about the moves of other teams, especially in the division.

 

But I'm as happy w/ the state of the Bills as I have ever been - even counting the glorious '90's.  The future is so bright, and Allen will keep us competitive regardless.  

 

How good the other teams are almost doesn't matter. There will always be tough competition in the NFL, and key games will generally come down to a few plays.  At least the Bills are right there w/ the other top teams and will always have a chance.