Ray Stonada Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Getting to the quarterfinals of a Grand Slam is an incredible achievement for anyone. There are so many levels of tennis you have to dominate to get to the final eight in Melbourne. Literally millions of kids wish for, work their a@@es off for, and never have an accomplishment like this. The Pegulas should be, and most probably are, damn proud. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Big Turk said: OK, but if she goes to the next tournament and gets smoked by the 100th ranked player in straight sets in the first round, what difference does it make? Elite players are elite because they play at that level 95% of the time. She hasn't proven that this isn't the exception yet for her. At age 26, I have a hard time believing she suddenly will become elite 8 years after most of the star women players do so... Jennifer Capriati begs to differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 and Kellyanne Conway daughter made the cut on American Idol, another great day for rich kids !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Gugny said: The average age of the top 5 Women's tennis players is 25 years old. That's because Serena is like 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Big Turk said: OK, but if she goes to the next tournament and gets smoked by the 100th ranked player in straight sets in the first round, what difference does it make? Elite players are elite because they play at that level 95% of the time. She hasn't proven that this isn't the exception yet for her. At age 26, I have a hard time believing she suddenly will become elite 8 years after most of the star women players do so... Well this may have been true in tennis 10 years ago it is not the case anymore. Many professional tennis players men and women are growing in to their potential well into their late 20’s. I am an avid USTA player and I watch almost every match I can all year. Many pros play well into their late 30’s now as well. Much like many pro sports, in tennis athletic longevity has led to a longer developmental periods. 26 could mean that Jessie plays well until she is 36. With a good period of time at the elite level she is playing at now. I would say elite is the 99.5 percentile and above. In tennis that is equal to the top 50. A fact that Andy Roddick had to constantly explain to the American public. To the extent that it really pushed him to an early retirement. He had at least another 5 years and 3 or 4 GS finals left in the tank. It just meant nothing to American tennis fans until we saw the vacuum left in his wake. Jessica is elite! Edited February 15, 2021 by Lenigmusx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: That's because Serena is like 50 Serena isn't in the top 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills of Boston Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Apologies if it’s been said... anyone checked out the name of her next opponent? 🤯 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Congrats to Jess! Definitely a shot for her to get to the semifinals...but then the #1 (and home favorite) Barty likely awaits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, eball said: Congrats to Jess! Definitely a shot for her to get to the semifinals...but then the #1 (and home favorite) Barty likely awaits... She played some great tennis last night. Looked like she got a little caught up in the moment in the 2nd set. She was poised (up a break) to win in straight sets. But she turned it on again in the 3rd. If she can keep her focus and keep her unforced errors down, I think she can beat anyone in this tournament. With no baseball and no football, I'm happy that this is on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gugny said: She played some great tennis last night. Looked like she got a little caught up in the moment in the 2nd set. She was poised (up a break) to win in straight sets. But she turned it on again in the 3rd. If she can keep her focus and keep her unforced errors down, I think she can beat anyone in this tournament. With no baseball and no football, I'm happy that this is on!! Yeah I took a glance at the scores and it looks like she has been cruising. I'm also glad she's not one of those "grunters." Jesus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, eball said: Yeah I took a glance at the scores and it looks like she has been cruising. I'm also glad she's not one of those "grunters." Jesus. I said the same to myself re: the grunts. Jesus. That crap started with Monica Seles who sounded like she was being attacked by a mob every time she swung her racket. I hate it and always have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Monica Seles who sounded like she was being attacked Probably a bad example there... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 She mentions how Josh has provided inspiration to her https://www.syracuse.com/sports/2021/02/buffalos-jessica-pegula-beats-no-5-tennis-player-advances-to-australian-open-quarterfinal.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, eball said: Probably a bad example there... HOLY *****!!!! I totally forgot about her getting stabbed!! Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Augie said: Brady was not great young. Defense won the first years he was in the pros. He was not special until later. He was a 6th round pick. He struggled to start in college. Then he later became the best of all time. Jessica will not be that by any means, but she’s trending up and doing very well. YOU put to much emphasis on age. I think Mardy Fish was a better player later in his career. Same with Martina Navratilova. Plenty of the young flashes burn out. Jennifer Capriati and Martina Hingis were stars as teenagers, then they were gone. That list is long. There is not one single path to success. I’m sick of going back and forth, this is tiresome and silly. I’m just happy for her and her family. You do NOT have to be great at 16 to have a great career. You are trying to prove your point and I’m not buying it. If not for a couple injury plagued years, this might have happened sooner. Have a nice night. I agree with you generally speaking, but Brady was actually very, very good in college. His situation was unique because Michigan successfully recruited Drew Henson, who was regarded as the best qb prospect in many a year. He was good from the get go in the pros too. He played EXTREMELY well overall in 2001 given the situation. Edited February 15, 2021 by dave mcbride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Serena isn't in the top 5. who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Steve O said: Jennifer Capriati begs to differ. Actually she doesn't. You merely keep adding to the body of evidence I present. She hit the top 25 in 1999. She is 44 now which means she was 22 when that happened and hit #1 at 24. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Bills of Boston said: Apologies if it’s been said... anyone checked out the name of her next opponent? 🤯 I just did....Miss Brady!😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buftex said: There is just that element in the Buffalo fan base (probably in all) that immediately has to find the most negative spin on everything and anything...it's as if joy and enjoyment are such limited qualities, we have to ration them...it gets tiresome. I don´t understand the ¨ all¨ qualifier you used there, I think many Buffalo fans are positive people, there is no other way we could´ve stood the long losing streaks, just saying... Edited February 15, 2021 by BuffaLoko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Thank god that family finally caught a break!!! Good for them! Even though I can’t get crazy excited for the daughter of billionaire, it is extremely impressive what she is doing. A lot of these rich kids think they hit a triple when they are born on third base. I salute her for carving her own path. Kim is still the best though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaLoko said: I just did....Miss Brady!😜 Are you serious..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Actually she doesn't. You merely keep adding to the body of evidence I present. She hit the top 25 in 1999. She is 44 now which means she was 22 when that happened and hit #1 at 24. Born in March of 76, reached #1 in October of 2001, age of 25. Remained in top 3 through the age of 26, and top 10 through the age of 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Steve O said: Born in March of 76, reached #1 in October of 2001, age of 25. Remained in top 3 through the age of 26, and top 10 through the age of 28. Yeah top spot. She was in the top 25 for 2 years prior. Not in the 60-120 range Edited February 15, 2021 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 19 hours ago, Big Turk said: Yeah top spot. She was in the top 25 for 3 years prior. Not in the 60-120 range You should start another thread with the sole purpose of ***** ting on this young woman's accomplishments so you can stop ***** ting on them in this thread. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: You should start another thread with the sole purpose of shitting on this young woman's accomplishments so you can stop shitting on them in this thread. Big Turd may be a more appropriate handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Hope she wears some Bills stuff tonight - (the greenish stuff was hideous). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: Hope she wears some Bills stuff tonight - (the greenish stuff was hideous). Her next match is Tue, 16 Feb 21:00 EST (Wed 13:00 in Melbourne). Edited February 16, 2021 by Mr Info 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Gugny said: You should start another thread with the sole purpose of shitting on this young woman's accomplishments so you can stop shitting on them in this thread. So when people say factually incorrect things repeatedly I should just accept them. Got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: So when people say factually incorrect things repeatedly I should just accept them. Got it. No, I think your problem is lack of self awareness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gugny said: You should start another thread with the sole purpose of shitting on this young woman's accomplishments so you can stop shitting on them in this thread. Ignorance sounds like a dirty word, but he’s just totally unaware. Having said that, you shouldn’t be so forward with an opinion (especially after being put on notice) without doing some research. The rankings are not of “who is best”. They are all about how many tournaments have you played, and how have you fared, how many points did you get? Serena Williams and Tiger Woods were lousy at times by his standards. No, they were hurt. NOW, if you want to look deeper you’ll find hip and knee surgeries were the reason she didn’t play more, win more and get higher rankings. I try not to spout off and act like an expert when I have no clue. And when I get it wrong, I’m happy to own it and say “my bad”. “Her career was stalled by a series of knee and hip injuries, spending a year-and-a-half in recovery after having surgery on her hip. “The last one, my hip, was definitely the hardest to come back from,” Pegula told a news conference.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tennis-ausopen-pegula/no-longer-the-young-american-pegula-keen-to-make-up-for-lost-time-idUKKBN2AD06B . 28 minutes ago, eball said: No, I think your problem is lack of self awareness. I think it’s mostly lack of tennis awareness, but I’ll not quibble. There’s certainly plenty of both. I pointed out the injuries about 24 hours ago, but he didn’t want to hear about it. Apparently incapable of adjusting to new information. . Edited February 16, 2021 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Putting gender before accomplishment has the opposite affect it is suppose to. PC thing to say is, this person is accomplishing more than what was expected and doing a great job. Putting gender in it is lessening the accomplishment and putting them in a generic box. We are all unique. I could argue that to say she’s a woman lessens her accomplishment in no way whatsoever, but for you to point this out demeans women. I prefer CS (common sense) to PC. Read the words, what do they mean? I think you tried too hard there (unless you were joking, which I hope is the case). He was identifying the player and person (who IS a woman). Is that so hard? She doesn’t play against the men. . . Edited February 16, 2021 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: So when people say factually incorrect things repeatedly I should just accept them. Got it. If we want to be factual and fair and balances, please give us an breakdown of the injury history I mentioned to you about 24 hours ago. Do knee and hip injuries matter? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tennis-ausopen-pegula/no-longer-the-young-american-pegula-keen-to-make-up-for-lost-time-idUKKBN2AD06B Just give up. It’s the right thing to do. We are a forgiving group. When I’m wrong I try to own it. It’s not all that rare, unfortunately......ask my wife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 12 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Thank god that family finally caught a break!!! Good for them! A lot of these rich kids think they hit a triple when they are born on third base. In baseball terminology do people with abandonment issues get hit by a pitch and think they hit a single? It's a long way from the coal mine and abandoned on a street corner to $7 billion for the Pegula clan........wouldn't call that a simple 4 bagger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Here's a cool snippet of an article regarding her last match: Credit to the Guardian Witt (Tennis coach) said Pegula’s rising confidence is a big part of her progress. She found a sort of kinship with her family’s football team, the Bills, who made the playoffs three of the past four seasons behind quarterback Josh Allen after going nearly two decades without a trip to the postseason. “Even last year, when he wasn’t playing that well, I was like, ‘I like this kid.’ I loved his competitive spirit. He was a gamer. He just wanted to win. That’s something you love to see,” she said about Allen. “It’s definitely something I think I tried to take into my game a little bit, even watching the team getting that grit, that competitive attitude, having that mindset in tennis, it’s like 90%, sometimes, of the matches. I think it’s been really cool to watch them and kind of channel that energy into how I’ve been doing.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Putting gender before accomplishment has the opposite affect it is suppose to. PC thing to say is, this person is accomplishing more than what was expected and doing a great job. Putting gender in it is lessening the accomplishment and putting them in a generic box. We are all unique and gender adjectives are no longer necessary . The adjective in my post is "young;" not "woman." Check your own grammar before reaching to criticize mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Putting gender before accomplishment has the opposite affect it is suppose to. PC thing to say is, this person is accomplishing more than what was expected and doing a great job. Putting gender in it is lessening the accomplishment and putting them in a generic box. We are all unique and gender adjectives are no longer necessary . What the hell are you talking about? Gug’s use of “young woman” was clearly a descriptor — just like someone defending Josh Allen would say “this young man’s accomplishments.” Good grief, people are nuts these days. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Who would have ever thought a women's tennis thread on a pro football website would be so darned entertaining? Edited February 16, 2021 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 6:22 AM, whatdrought said: meeting of the coalition of negative Nancy’s: Negative Nancy president: “well boys, the bills season is officially over. It was a very good season to remind everyone how much they suck. People think things like winning define a good sports experience, but we showed them. Now. What’s next?” Assistant to the negative Nancy: “well, the Sabres suck, but that feels like a dead horse. I am getting something about... hang on, let me check my notes.... ah yes. Female tennis. Something about unprecedented success on a world stage. I don’t think we really know anything about tennis, or females for that matter, but this the best we’ve got.” president: *rubbing hands together* “it’s perfect...” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Some might find this a good read about Ms. Pegula's match tonight. https://www.cbssports.com/tennis/news/2021-australian-open-odds-quarterfinal-predictions-top-tennis-expert-reveals-brady-vs-pegula-picks/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Well, Serena is back in another semi, pretty easily dispatching the #2 seed Halep. Osaka as the #3 is in as well (they'll face each other). Pegula vs. Brady at 9 tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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