Dukestreetking Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you hitting on me? Is it that obvious? Christ, my skills have seriously diminished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: WHOOO CAREESSSSSSS the weather outside is weather I care because I don't want the damn weather playing a factor in the game. Say what you want about all the injuries we had in the 1st matchup, but the game was played in a downpour for 60% of the game and it was obvious to the casual observer that it effected Allen and the Bills offense a lot more than it did Mahomes and the KC offense. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: WHOOO CAREESSSSSSS the weather outside is weather Who cares? A lot of us. That's why we talk about it a lot. Because we care lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Buffalo4Life01 said: I care because I don't want the damn weather playing a factor in the game. Say what you want about all the injuries we had in the 1st matchup, but the game was played in a downpour for 60% of the game and it was obvious to the casual observer that it effected Allen and the Bills offense a lot more than it did Mahomes and the KC offense. Maybe.... Josh Allen's shoulder issue and wearing a brace had more of an impact then the rain? I am all for beautiful weather, but if not, then it is up to the team to prepare to play in that type of weather. Soaking footballs in water, or just playing in sprinklers lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Tuel Time said: Who cares? A lot of us. That's why we talk about it a lot. Because we care lol yea thats my point, waste of dam time, we all heard how bad the weather was going and how much snow there would be alllllll last week and how the snow would give the edge to the Ravens. How did that work out? lol. Worrying about something that changes constantly is DUMB. Both teams also have to play in it. Its pointless. Glad ya'll concern youselves with dumbsh!t. Its annoying to the rest of us. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: yea thats my point, waste of dam time, we all heard how bad the weather was going and how much snow there would be alllllll last week and how the snow would give the edge to the Ravens. How did that work out? lol. Worrying about something that changes constantly is DUMB. Both teams also have to play in it. Its pointless. Glad ya'll concern youselves with dumbsh!t. Its annoying to the rest of us. How is it dumb? Today is Thursday. The game is played in 3 days. The chance for a dramatic weather shift at this point is slim to none. Regarding the rain, as has been pointed out many times now, the Bills played much worse in it that did the Chiefs. I thought that was pretty obvious. Of course the brace effected Allen but I just get the feeling KC plays better in inclement weather. I hope I'm proven wrong. We are fans. We discuss things that impact the game and there is nothing besides injuries that impact the game more besides weather!! Edited January 21, 2021 by Buffalo4Life01 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: yea thats my point, waste of dam time, we all heard how bad the weather was going and how much snow there would be alllllll last week and how the snow would give the edge to the Ravens. How did that work out? lol. Worrying about something that changes constantly is DUMB. Both teams also have to play in it. Its pointless. Glad ya'll concern youselves with dumbsh!t. Its annoying to the rest of us. Simmer down my man lol, sip some coffee I can't effect any part of this game, from the players, the conditions, the coaching, none of it. None of it is in my control. It doesn't mean I can't worry about things that will play a role in the game, like weather, the players, the conditions, the coaching. Thanks for your input and your survey of "the rest of us". I apologize if our talk is annoying to you LOL Have a great day. I hope weather doesn't affect it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: WHOOO CAREESSSSSSS the weather outside is weather Wind is the only thing, that really affected the deep ball and kicks last week - So this looks great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: How is it dumb? Today is Thursday. The game is played in 3 days. The chance for a dramatic weather shift at this point is slim to none. Regarding the rain, as has been pointed out many times now, the Bills played much worse in it that did the Chiefs. I thought that was pretty obvious. Of course the brace effected Allen but I just get the feeling KC plays better in inclement weather. I hope I'm proven wrong. We are fans. We discuss things that impact the game and there is nothing besides injuries that impact the game besides weather!! You would think a team from WNY would or should be built to play in bad weather. If not Terry better get that new domed/retractable roof stadium built ASAP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Greg S said: You would think a team from WNY would or should be built to play in bad weather. If not Terry better get that new domed/retractable roof stadium built ASAP. I couldn't agree more. We don't have the power running game and mauling o.line that The bills enjoyed with Thurman Thomas back in the early 90's. That team actually seemed to play better in the rain and snow. We are, at least for the moment, more of a spread you out and beat you with the pass team. Much more of a finesse team than a power team. I'd be fine with a dome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Greg S said: You would think a team from WNY would or should be built to play in bad weather. If not Terry better get that new domed/retractable roof stadium built ASAP. I've changed my thinking on this a bit. At the risk of further annoying PaaaaatMaaaannn, I will discuss. I've always thought about the Orchard Park weather like an equalizer. Like these high powered offenses come play the Bills and are neutralized a bit in both gameplanning and execution due to the weather. Now that we have a high powered offense, I'm starting to think that other teams are hoping for bad weather to neutralize US LOL. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Updated weather forecast shows it will be overcast during the game with only a 1% chance of any precip and temps in the low 30s with light 10 mph winds...definitely a win. http://www.nflweather.com/en/game/2020/ conf-championships/bills-at-chiefs I would love for that to be the case! But this is from the national weather service here which shows a 60% chance of rain showers: Cloudy with occasional rain showers. Low 34F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On a GMFB segment this AM they were talking about the game and the subject got to unanimous agreement how LOADED the Bills are at WR Just two years ago: 2018: Zay Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Robert Foster, Ray-Ray McCloud, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Charles Clay Just stare at that for a minute and drink it in - it's just crazy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: How is it dumb? Today is Thursday. The game is played in 3 days. The chance for a dramatic weather shift at this point is slim to none. Regarding the rain, as has been pointed out many times now, the Bills played much worse in it that did the Chiefs. I thought that was pretty obvious. Of course the brace effected Allen but I just get the feeling KC plays better in inclement weather. I hope I'm proven wrong. We are fans. We discuss things that impact the game and there is nothing besides injuries that impact the game more besides weather!! Forecasts literally change an hour before LOL. And that is ONE FORECAST you are referencing, I can show you dozens of others that give a different interpretation of what the weather will be. THAT is why its pointless. The weather nerds and worry warts should go start a weather thread instead of bogging down pregame threads. Was annoying as hell last week, just as annoying this week. thats the last ill be saying about a pointless topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Tuel Time said: I've changed my thinking on this a bit. At the risk of further annoying PaaaaatMaaaannn, I will discuss. I've always thought about the Orchard Park weather like an equalizer. Like these high powered offenses come play the Bills and are neutralized a bit in both gameplanning and execution due to the weather. Now that we have a high powered offense, I'm starting to think that other teams are hoping for bad weather to neutralize US LOL. You might be right. Didn't Josh mentioned something about getting a dome in Buffalo or that he wasn't a fan playing in bad weather? I could be wrong but I thought he mentioned something to that effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: I would love for that to be the case! But this is from the national weather service here which shows a 60% chance of rain showers: Cloudy with occasional rain showers. Low 34F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Not necessarily, night could mean overnight...because on the forecast for that day, it says AM showers. There appears to be a window of time that will be precipitationless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: Forecasts literally change an hour before LOL. And that is ONE FORECAST you are referencing, I can show you dozens of others that give a different interpretation of what the weather will be. THAT is why its pointless. The weather nerds and worry warts should go start a weather thread instead of bogging down pregame threads. Was annoying as hell last week, just as annoying this week. thats the last ill be saying about a pointless topic. I don't want to continue to argue with you about the weather. Yes, of course forecast's change from day to day but OBVIOUSLY the closer you get to the game, the less likely it is to change with any kind of relevancy. This is a football forum where we have the right to discuss these types of things and shouldn't' have to deal with posters like you who call people out and get all bent out of shape about it. If it bothers you that much, why not just ignore these posts and look for something else? We are all Bills fans with differing point of views and that is what makes it so great. The ability to discuss these types of issues without losing our cool or decorum. That said, Go Bills!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Buffalo4Life01 said: I don't want to continue to argue with you about the weather. Yes, of course forecast's change from day to day but OBVIOUSLY the closer you get to the game, the less likely it is to change with any kind of relevancy. This is a football forum where we have the right to discuss these types of things and shouldn't' have to deal with posters like you who call people out and get all bent out of shape about it. If it bothers you that much, why not just ignore these posts and look for something else? We are all Bills fans with differing point of views and that is what makes it so great. The ability to discuss these types of issues without losing our cool or decorum. That said, Go Bills!! Paatt lives under a permanent dark cloud. Weather-based discussions feel very personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not necessarily, night could mean overnight...because on the forecast for that day, it says AM showers. There appears to be a window of time that will be precipitationless. good points!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: Paatt lives under a permanent dark cloud. Weather-based discussions feel very personal. I am most definitely one of the most optimistic and happy people you would ever have the pleasure of meeting baby! I am AMPED for Sunday and cannot wait for Josh to go out and display his game to the world. Finally put to rest the talk of "the bills should have drafted Mahomes". Gonna be EPCOT! 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, PaattMaann said: I am most definitely one of the most optimistic and happy people you would ever have the pleasure of meeting baby! I am AMPED for Sunday and cannot wait for Josh to go out and display his game to the world. Finally put to rest the talk of "the bills should have drafted Mahomes". Gonna be EPCOT! not THAT is what I'm talking about!!! Let's gooooooooooooo!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: I am most definitely one of the most optimistic and happy people you would ever have the pleasure of meeting baby! I am AMPED for Sunday and cannot wait for Josh to go out and display his game to the world. Finally put to rest the talk of "the bills should have drafted Mahomes". Gonna be EPCOT! I hope the clouds part and a ray of sunshine illuminates your day! Go BIlls! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, stevewin said: On a GMFB segment this AM they were talking about the game and the subject got to unanimous agreement how LOADED the Bills are at WR Just two years ago: 2018: Zay Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Robert Foster, Ray-Ray McCloud, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Charles Clay Just stare at that for a minute and drink it in - it's just crazy Sure, that looks bad.....until you remember what our O-line was 2 years ago. Other than Dawkins are any of those guys still in the league? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, fergie's ire said: Sure, that looks bad.....until you remember what our O-line was 2 years ago. Other than Dawkins are any of those guys still in the league? Yes Groy - LAC McDermott - NYJ Miller - CAR Teller- Cle Mills is on a practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, CaliBills said: Maybe.... Josh Allen's shoulder issue and wearing a brace had more of an impact then the rain? Incidentally, I really appreciate that Allen has never offered his hurt shoulder as an excuse for those two losses, although he wouldn't be wearing a brace if it wasn't affecting him. Another thing to like about the guy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not necessarily, night could mean overnight...because on the forecast for that day, it says AM showers. There appears to be a window of time that will be precipitationless. Turk, you have given me hope that it might be an unprecipitationlessly type evening. Wait...I think I screwed that up. GO DRY BILLS! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, SMAKCruiser said: Yes Groy - LAC McDermott - NYJ Miller - CAR Teller- Cle Mills is on a practice squad. The guys who stunk were Ducasse and Bodine the C from CIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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finn Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wind is the only thing, that really affected the deep ball and kicks last week - So this looks great Right, that and a real downpour. This game features what might end up being two Hall of Fame passers. Playing it in high winds or monsoon rains would be like Ali and Frazier fighting while sick with the flu. We're in for a treat Sunday night. I just hope Mahomes is healthy. I want to see a heavyweight bout--and see the best team (the Bills) win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I think we get hung up on the fact that we had a few games where we were like the Greatest Show on Turf. That’s just one aspect of our team, I don’t think it’s our identity and we’ve proved multiple times that it’s not the only way we can win. We are definitely a pass first offense no doubt, and I’d like to see the running game improve next year, but our team is more Whatever It Takes than just Pass Deep and Win. That’s why I think we are going to the Super Bowl and I think we are going to win it. We are not a one trick pony, we have different sides of the ball stepping up at different times, different players making big plays in different games, and coaches who are adept at in game adjustments. That is the sign of a Super Bowl winning team and I think this is our year. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wind is the only thing, that really affected the deep ball and kicks last week - So this looks great Yup. It had a huge effect last week. 39 minutes ago, Greg S said: You would think a team from WNY would or should be built to play in bad weather. If not Terry better get that new domed/retractable roof stadium built ASAP. Well, we surely don’t look built to play bad weather. Not many players 37 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Forecasts literally change an hour before LOL. And that is ONE FORECAST you are referencing, I can show you dozens of others that give a different interpretation of what the weather will be. THAT is why its pointless. The weather nerds and worry warts should go start a weather thread instead of bogging down pregame threads. Was annoying as hell last week, just as annoying this week. thats the last ill be saying about a pointless topic. Last week, we were worried about the wind. The forecast were predicting bad lots of wind. It was extremely windy. 36 minutes ago, Greg S said: You might be right. Didn't Josh mentioned something about getting a dome in Buffalo or that he wasn't a fan playing in bad weather? I could be wrong but I thought he mentioned something to that effect. Josh wants a dome get him a dome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, stevewin said: On a GMFB segment this AM they were talking about the game and the subject got to unanimous agreement how LOADED the Bills are at WR Just two years ago: 2018: Zay Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Robert Foster, Ray-Ray McCloud, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Charles Clay Just stare at that for a minute and drink it in - it's just crazy Amazing.Josh and Stef be like: 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Cray51 said: Rewatching the Week 6 game... Slippery conditions certainly played into the missed tackles on CEH. I dont expect the running game to be as effective against our defense if it doesnt rain. We put contact on CEH throughout, but he bounced off and we couldnt wrap up. Mahomes was able to extend plays very well. His mobility was crucial to pick up first downs and extend drives. If his toe limits that, its a huge win for the Bills. Josh had to be better against the zone concepts KC ran. He looked timid and confused at times, and his line did not protect as well as they normally have. Look to him to show some more swagger this week which I think will help. Leverage the run game to set up play action and screens to Knox. Will help (we had some good screen plays in week 6) move the ball against the D. Limit EITHER Hill or Kelce. I dont think you can limit both. Pick one and shut them down. Its going to be a good game, I am really interested to see how Allen does against a D he struggled with the first time around. One thing many hasn’t mentioned about this game was the dumb penalties the Bills defense had with the late hits. Very uncharacteristic. Gotta hold their composure. Also, the 3rd and 14 pickup by the Chiefs late in the game was a clear OPI on Kelce. He sold picking off Edmunds on that play by falling to the ground after the pick. Hope McDermott warns the refs to be on the lookout for them 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, finn said: Incidentally, I really appreciate that Allen has never offered his hurt shoulder as an excuse for those two losses, although he wouldn't be wearing a brace if it wasn't affecting him. Another thing to like about the guy. Not only that, but before the TD drive in the 4th it was off. That drive included a 2nd and 5 where Allen ran for 6 yards and took a hard hit. After that series, there was a vingette in the broadcast film where the trainers came up to Allen on the bench and he shook them off. I think they may have been trying to get the brace back on him to protect his shoulder if he was gonna run and take hits like that, and he was 'no way'. It was notable that the following week, Allen had a bunch of kinesiotape and a less limiting brace. It may be worth re-visiting Jim Kubiak's article on that game. He doesn't sugar coat. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-bills-josh-allens-bad-misses-protection-errors-are-undoing-vs-chiefs/article_6f3d89d4-1322-11eb-b314-53f1b4824aea.html Quote Allen had six passing attempts that can be best described as “bad misses.” There were opportunities, either running across the field or out in the flat in which Allen was simply not able to get the football to the open receiver. In the NFL, execution on these open throws is expected to be flawless. If Allen had completed these basic throws, his 58% completion percentage would have jumped to 74%, and might have led to a different outcome. Six misfires of 27 opportunities is 23% of the passing game. IMO the shoulder was affecting Josh in that game. That's not to say that the Chief's defense wasn't also a puzzle as Allen has said in interviews, but when he did throw, he was just off-target too much in the first half. He was also still IMO being thumped into taking his outlet receivers by the Bills coaching staff. Multiple factors, but I think it's telling that Allen was observed without the brace in the 4Q, which was the only quarter in which he had more than 60% completion (he started off the game 37.5% in the first half) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 19 hours ago, eball said: So, I read a recent article (in The Athletic I think) about catching up with "The Coach" Chuck Dickerson. If you can find it you should read it. You'd realize that EVEN IN BUFFALO these radio hosts are not talking about things they believe, they are saying things that will create the most controversy and drive listeners/callers. The only place you get folks actually talking about what they believe is on a network that is not dependent upon advertising revenue -- like the Bills' OBL show -- but on that one you have to be cognizant that they won't overly criticize the hand that feeds them either. This is really the best place to get a dichotomy of opinion and "real talk." I don't listen to talk radio (besides Howard) much at all. I have long been of the opinion that anything you hear spoken by a talking head on any of these shows is scripted to provide for the best TV. Phil Simms, Rex Ryan... anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I’d like to see the Bills do some more of motioning McKenzie or another WR into the backfield and hitting them with swing passes early. Chiefs are gonna play zone and make Josh dink and donk. This will slow down the pass rush of Clark/Jones as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Skip Clueless expects Josh Allen will dominate the Chiefs this Sunday!! | Bills vs Chiefs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, Steptide said: 3 more sleeps... You’re sleeping?!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: The guys who stunk were Ducasse and Bodine the C from CIN Groy, Mills, and Miller were pretty bad, too....and Teller had not developed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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