GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I thought it was a lock that he and GM Tom Telesco would end up together. Went to HS together at St. Francis......interned together with Polian. But when Dean Spanos got involved all bets off. He might not trust Telesco. Not many organizations wouldn't trust the GM after they drafted a QB that had the best statistical season by a rookie QB ever.........but an organization that has had Brees, Rivers and now Herbert in succession might take for granted the QB position just a bit. I'd rather they kept Daboll for another season at least but if he goes maybe they fix the running game and become even better. The word is Spanos wants a guy with HC experience. Not that Smith fits that either.... but yea other than the Mahomes in division thing Spanos is the drawback of that job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 22 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Wish I could get fired from my job and afford to take a year off🙋 Start robbing banks. As an alternative buy some lottery tickets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Have a feeling that is Pep Hamilton's job all the way. Unless the Dolphins intend on swinging for the fences to try and go after Lawrence in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I thought it was a lock that he and GM Tom Telesco would end up together. Went to HS together at St. Francis......interned together with Polian. But when Dean Spanos got involved all bets off. He might not trust Telesco. Not many organizations wouldn't trust the GM after they drafted a QB that had the best statistical season by a rookie QB ever.........but an organization that has had Brees, Rivers and now Herbert in succession might take for granted the QB position just a bit. I'd rather they kept Daboll for another season at least but if he goes maybe they fix the running game and become even better. I felt the same when I heard about the Daboll-Telesco HS connection. Then I had a read that they didn’t know each other then and never even talked to one another. Not clue how credible the source was. Regardless, the HS connection should only help the case. I’m hoping that Daboll refuses any job offers in order to stay. Not so much because we need him, but because what we have is so special that he’d rather be here than anywhere else. interesting point regarding our run game improving if Daboll leaves. Is it a scheme problem or a personnel problem? Probably a combination of both. Regardless, that’s my offseason #1 priority. Finding a way to improve our run game. Being too one dimensional often ends the season with an L. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: I felt the same when I heard about the Daboll-Telesco HS connection. Then I had a read that they didn’t know each other then and never even talked to one another. Not clue how credible the source was. Regardless, the HS connection should only help the case. I’m hoping that Daboll refuses any job offers in order to stay. Not so much because we need him, but because what we have is so special that he’d rather be here than anywhere else. interesting point regarding our run game improving if Daboll leaves. Is it a scheme problem or a personnel problem? Probably a combination of both. Regardless, that’s my offseason #1 priority. Finding a way to improve our run game. Being too one dimensional often ends the season with an L. Fwiw the HS “connection” is meaningless. They went to the same HS, and that’s about it. The other thing I found funny was “ooh they have the same agent.” LaMonte reps gobs of coaches and GMs. Edited January 14, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Start robbing banks. As an alternative buy some lottery tickets. Robbing banks seems like too much work😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Meyer to Jags now official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 hours ago, uninja said: If I was Daboll I would think long and hard about being in the same division as Mahomes/Reid. You might be coming into a good situation but that's going to be one hell of a hill to climb every year to make the playoffs. Herbert might as good as any of the top QB's. Just an incredible rookie season, especially after getting his first start with minimal preparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Jags hire Urban Meyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 20 hours ago, NobesBLO13 said: I heard in a podcast Bienemy is a really bad interview and his past issues may be coming into play. (Apparently some kind of sexual misconduct). exactly what has he done to suddenly be a great candidate? Mahomes is making him look good, not the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The word is Spanos wants a guy with HC experience. Not that Smith fits that either.... but yea other than the Mahomes in division thing Spanos is the drawback of that job. If that's the case might they consider Pedersen? Playing in the same division as his mentor may be a plus. Or would they be warded off by his handling of Wentz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jkeerie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 You know, I've been hearing more and more that owners and GMs are looking for "leaders of men." Saleh impressed you as that. Meyer has developed players in college. Who are the others that could fit that description? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, jkeerie said: You know, I've been hearing more and more that owners and GMs are looking for "leaders of men." Saleh impressed you as that. Meyer has developed players in college. Who are the others that could fit that description? I would put Eberflus and Arthur Smith in that category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I would put Eberflus and Arthur Smith in that category Same. And Brandon Staley too. He might be a guy for whom it is a year early but you'd rather be early than late haha. I think Staley would be a great hire in Houston but they might be forced into Bieniemy to keep Watson happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 hours ago, jkeerie said: You know, I've been hearing more and more that owners and GMs are looking for "leaders of men." Saleh impressed you as that. Meyer has developed players in college. Who are the others that could fit that description? Bills were actually ahead of this curve. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBaumer Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 As soon as the Texans and chargers find their coaches, Buffalo will be safe with their coaching staff. I think our guy goes to one of those two teams though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 IMHO, the longer the Chargers job draws out - the more likely it is Daboll. It would seem that maybe Daboll and Telesco have an understanding that in order to not distract from the Bills or their task in front of them, that any announcement (official anyways) would be made once either, 1. Bills are out of the playoffs OR 2. Bills win AFC Title and have two weeks before the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: IMHO, the longer the Chargers job draws out - the more likely it is Daboll. It would seem that maybe Daboll and Telesco have an understanding that in order to not distract from the Bills or their task in front of them, that any announcement (official anyways) would be made once either, 1. Bills are out of the playoffs OR 2. Bills win AFC Title and have two weeks before the Super Bowl. They’ve had one zoom call. He may get the job ultimately. But there is no “understanding”. They are interviewing everyone and it is spanos decision. Spanos does not care if he went to st. Francis. He wants someone who owns the room and demands respect from the players. Maybe that’s him, I have no idea. Edited January 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They’ve had one zoom call. He may get the job ultimately. But there is no “understanding”. They are interviewing everyone and it is spanos decision. Spanos does not care if he went to st. Francis. He wants someone who owns the room and demands respect from the players. Maybe that’s him, I have no idea. Which is why I prefaced my statement to, "the longer the Chargers' job draws out" - because as time goes on and the coaching carousel has fewer and fewer seats available, the more it seems IMO that Daboll is the priority for L.A. I hope Daboll stays as he's done a remarkable job and I don't want him going anywhere!!! But, L.A. would also seem to be quite a good fit for him, the Telesco "ghost" connection aside. Edited January 15, 2021 by BigBuff423 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Which is why I prefaced my statement to, "the longer the Chargers' job draws out" - because as time goes on and the coaching carousel has fewer and fewer seats available, the more it seems IMO that Daboll is the priority for L.A. I hope Daboll stays as he's done a remarkable job and I don't want him going anywhere!!! But, L.A. would also seem to be quite a good fit for him, the Telesco "ghost" connection aside. I am, and have been convinced that Daboll is going to LA. This idea that Teleseco and Daboll, went to the same high school two years apart, both played football but never spoke is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 hours ago, jkeerie said: If that's the case might they consider Pedersen? Playing in the same division as his mentor may be a plus. Or would they be warded off by his handling of Wentz? I think Jason Garrett is the guy that the Chargers are going to end up with and I think he's a good hire for a team that probably needs an experienced coach. Smith has been offered the Atlanta job also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, jkeerie said: You know, I've been hearing more and more that owners and GMs are looking for "leaders of men." Saleh impressed you as that. Meyer has developed players in college. Who are the others that could fit that description? On a side note, I wonder how much perception plays into that, specifically sideline demeanor. You'd like to think the front offices wouldn't take that into account much, but Daboll might be at a disadvantage because he is up in the coaching box. Not that it's the end all be all, but when you consider many owners are too involved in the process you get guys that look good on tv versus knowing football. (see Ryan, Rex) And of course those teams selecting on looks seem to be selecting new coaches more often also. Maybe Daboll decides to go down to the sidelines next year assuming he misses the musical chair routine this year. Edited January 15, 2021 by 4BillsintheBurgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WMDman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Didn’t he coach for Miami for like a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, WMDman said: Didn’t he coach for Miami for like a season? Miami Dolphins (2010) - Coaching intern Miami Dolphins (2011–2015) - Tight ends coach Miami Dolphins (2015) - Interim head coach New Orleans Saints (2016–present) - Assistant head coach / tight ends coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Dan Campbell? LOL Look for a new rule next season that gives the team who hires "an offensive coordinator from Kansas City" as head coach 3 2022 1st round picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Dan Orlovsky on the Pat McAfee show just said its a given that Daboll accepts the Chargers job & thats why LA hasn't hired anyone yet. Dude was 100% convinced Daboll was going there. I'd prefer Daboll stay but if he were gonna leave for anyone, the Chargers do make the most sense 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, WMDman said: Didn’t he coach for Miami for like a season? Yea the year they fired Philbin early. It is 100% a trend this year that teams are looking for leaders not Xs and Os guys. Campbell from what you read fits that bill too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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No_Matter_What Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, brianthomas said: Dan Orlovsky on the Pat McAfee show just said its a given that Daboll accepts the Chargers job & thats why LA hasn't hired anyone yet. Dude was 100% convinced Daboll was going there. I'd prefer Daboll stay but if he were gonna leave for anyone, the Chargers do make the most sense How so? Could they legally already have deal in place? Can they discuss it during season while they still have head coach? Or could they approach him somehow after Lynn was fired? I thought he was not allowed to have interviews/contact until we are done in playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: How so? Could they legally already have deal in place? Can they discuss it during season while they still have head coach? Or could they approach him somehow after Lynn was fired? I thought he was not allowed to have interviews/contact until we are done in playoffs. He had a zoom interview last Sunday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 BREAKING: Falcons agree to terms with Arthur Smith as new HChttps://www.nfl.com/news/falcons-agree-to-terms-with-titans-oc-arthur-smith-as-new-head-coach None of these New Hired coaches are NFL Retreads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Daboll to the Chargers seems like a foregone conclusion at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Lions appear ready to hire Dan Campbell as their head coach...this is why they are the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 What is it 3 down 3 to go ?? Eagles - Looking at Dabol Chargers - also looking at Dabol Lions - Campbell Jags - Myer Falcons - Smith Jets - Saleh Texans - Looking at Frazier I hope our guys don't get hired but i worry about Dabol given what he has done with Josh !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He had a zoom interview last Sunday Thanks. I must've missed that, and thought its not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I think Daboll is a good OC, but I also think Josh has done more for Josh than anyone. He figured out how to improve his throwing motion etc. Add in Diggs...that was the game changer. I'd love to keep the band together, but I'm not worried if he leaves. Josh won't fall apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I am, and have been convinced that Daboll is going to LA. This idea that Teleseco and Daboll, went to the same high school two years apart, both played football but never spoke is ridiculous. They probably spoke. But that you would hire someone because you guys smoked a joint together in hs is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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