NewEra Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: None. But there is precedent for not always awarding high TD totals. And we came very close in 2016. 2016 Julio Jones won the award with 83 receptions, 1409 yards and 6TDs over Jordy Nelson who had 97 receptions, 1257 yards and 14 TD's 2010 Roddy White won the award with 111 reception, 1355 yards and 6TDs over Dwayne Bowe who had 72 receptions 1162 yards and 15 TD's Also of note, no WR in NFL history has ever not won the award when tallying at least 120 receptions and 1400 yards. 10 for 10 Stathead: 1400 yards and 120+receptions WR's in NFL history have won the award 9 out of 14 times when totaling 15+TDs, 85+ receptions and 1200+ yards Stathead: 1200+ yards, 15+ TDs and 85+ receptions Julio Jones....HoF vs Jordy. roddy white vs Dwayne Bowe. in both cases, the superior player was named. Stats aren’t always everything, especially when a perennial all pro is involved. Diggs has never even made the pro bowl before. Adams, hopkins and hill were the top WRs going into the season along with Michael Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, NewEra said: Julio Jones....HoF vs Jordy. roddy white vs Dwayne Bowe. in both cases, the superior player was named. Stats aren’t always everything, especially when a perennial all pro is involved. Diggs has never even made the pro bowl before. Adams, hopkins and hill were the top WRs going into the season along with Michael Thomas. True. But every player has a starting point somewhere. This could be the beginning of a HOF career for Diggs. It's certainly a 'something has to give' year. Diggs will either be the first player ever to put up his numbers and not be named all-pro or either Adams or Hill will be the first to put up their numbers and be beat out by a guy with less than half as many TD's. As others have mentioned in this thread I would not discount Diggs storyline which has seemed to dominate the sports media world more so than Hills. Then again maybe they will throw us a curve ball and do something dumb and give the nod to Metcalf. He was certainly the flavor of the month earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Diggs has been an All Pro caliber wr all year. It should be Hopkins and Diggs. Adams missed time which hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I think what you have to remember is some of the guys voting for this are people who even at the start of this season were Josh Allen sceptics. In a lot of their minds Diggs is a big reason for Josh's jump. That plays in Stef's favour. They are not wrong that he has been a big reason but they will probably overvalue how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 More than the pro bowl, this would be a great honor for Diggs (besides it will p*+s off all the MN tools who have been non-stop bashing him all season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 18 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said: If you go based off of statistics, Diggs has the advantage over Adams. This is definitely true if you ignore some stats that don't tell that story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 13 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: That’s a good point. Cause you know he’s gonna have Gilmore on him 90% of the snaps... Can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not because Gilmore is out. 13 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: That’s a good point. Cause you know he’s gonna have Gilmore on him 90% of the snaps... Can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not because Gilmore is out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: More than the pro bowl, this would be a great honor for Diggs (besides it will p*+s off all the MN tools who have been non-stop bashing him all season). Jesus. They should be bashing their scrub QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 20 hours ago, NewEra said: Getting into the end zone matters more. Dude has two less games and triple the TDs. It matters I don't think it matters that much. Josh spreads the ball around in the red zone and runs it in himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I don't think it matters that much. Josh spreads the ball around in the red zone and runs it in himself. you don’t think that a differential of TEN TDs doesn’t matter that much? Literally tripling his TD output. hopefully you’re right. I’d love to see Diggs get 1st team. I just don’t see how one could vote for him over guys with three times as many TDs. One of which, who played in 2 less games and is averaging more ypg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, NewEra said: you don’t think that a differential of TEN TDs doesn’t matter that much? Literally tripling his TD output. hopefully you’re right. I’d love to see Diggs get 1st team. I just don’t see how one could vote for him over guys with three times as many TDs. One of which, who played in 2 less games and is averaging more ypg. It might matter in terms of who get first team All Pro. I don't think our offensive is better is Diggs is replaced with a different WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said: It might matter in terms of who get first team All Pro. I don't think our offensive is better is Diggs is replaced with a different WR. Well.....that’s what this conversation is about. 1st team all pro I agree, I’d rather have Diggs over Hill and Adams. He’s everything that we need. Edited December 23, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 5 TDs doesn't cut it unless he's way ahead of the pack in catches and yards at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 I'd say Digg is a lock now for one of the two spots. Adams will get the other. Diggs 120 receptions (leads league) 1,459 yards (leads league) 8 TD's His only real competition is Tyreek Hill Hill 87 receptions 1,276 yards 15 TD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I'd say Digg is a lock now for one of the two spots. Adams will get the other. Diggs 120 receptions (leads league) 1,459 yards (leads league) 8 TD's His only real competition is Tyreek Hill Hill 87 receptions 1,276 yards 15 TD's His TD's tonight really helped his chances. Good for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, MJS said: His TD's tonight really helped his chances. Good for him! For sure. I think it was 55/45 Diggs over Hill before tonight's big game and the 3 TD's just because Diggs has such a good storyline to go along with the receptions and yards. But having a huge game this late in the season and now having a more respectable 8 TD's should push it closer to 80/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I guarantee if you wait until the Friday/Saturday after Week 17 you'll know. Then we can post a thread that he was 1st (or 2nd) All-Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 12:09 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: True. But every player has a starting point somewhere. This could be the beginning of a HOF career for Diggs. It's certainly a 'something has to give' year. Diggs will either be the first player ever to put up his numbers and not be named all-pro or either Adams or Hill will be the first to put up their numbers and be beat out by a guy with less than half as many TD's. As others have mentioned in this thread I would not discount Diggs storyline which has seemed to dominate the sports media world more so than Hills. Then again maybe they will throw us a curve ball and do something dumb and give the nod to Metcalf. He was certainly the flavor of the month earlier in the season. Metcalf has 1 TD in the last 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, ganesh said: Metcalf has 1 TD in the last 5 games. Just another Seahawk they (media) couldn't wait to hand an award to. Surprised the worst coverage safety in the NFL isn't up for DPOY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nelius Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Just another Seahawk they (media) couldn't wait to hand an award to. Surprised the worst coverage safety in the NFL isn't up for DPOY. Metcalf put up some numbers earlier this season and was legitimately hulking out, but he's just nowhere near as complete a receiver as Diggs. Diggs has the second best hands in the game only to Hopkins (freakishly huge) and runs the best routes in the game. Being a huge target just doesn't compete with that, but I get the mid-season Metcalf hype and even bought into it myself. Diggs has lapped him at this point of course. And Justin Jefferson, in case anybody's still questioning. Edited December 29, 2020 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Nelius said: Metcalf put up some numbers earlier this season and was legitimately hulking out, but he's just nowhere near as complete a receiver as Diggs. Diggs has the second best hands in the game only to Hopkins (freakishly huge) and runs the best routes in the game. Being a huge target just doesn't compete with that, but I get the mid-season Metcalf hype and was bought into it myself. Diggs has lapped him at this point of course. And Justin Jefferson, in case anybody's still questioning. was watching a video about fantasy football and Diggs earlier in the week and something they said was he doesn't have all those flashy TDs like DK but he's just so damn consistent right up at the level of D Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: was watching a video about fantasy football and Diggs earlier in the week and something they said was he doesn't have all those flashy TDs like DK but he's just so damn consistent right up at the level of D Hopkins. I'm big on Metcalf's future but it seems teams have figured him out to an extent this season. Diggs, like many of the great ones, just can't be figured out. He had the pedigree before this year so I don't think that's premature to say - defenses can't figure him out. You can only pretty much hope to contain him and try to mitigate big plays like that 50 yard score. So crazy that a Buffalo Bills wide receiver is putting up 120 receptions and ~1500 yards. I remember drunk debates about Donald Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The best all around can do it all WRS in football ranked: 1. Adams 2. Nuke 3. Evans 4. Diggs 5. Julio 6. Hill 7. Cooper By all around I mean they are possession guys, great route runners, hands, and can attack you deep. Guys like Keenan, Michael Thomas, and Allen Robinson - great route runners (Keenan might be the best) and hands. Not deep threats tho. But 3 of the best without question. Those are the 10 best WRs in the game. Rank them however you want really. Just missing cut: Ridley, DK, OBJ, Kupp, Woods Up and coming: Jefferson Higgins Terry McClauren Sutton Lamb Deebo Samuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Big Blitz said: The best all around can do it all WRS in football ranked: 1. Adams 2. Nuke 3. Evans 4. Diggs 5. Julio 6. Hill 7. Cooper By all around I mean they are possession guys, great route runners, hands, and can attack you deep. Guys like Keenan, Michael Thomas, and Allen Robinson - great route runners (Keenan might be the best) and hands. Not deep threats tho. But 3 of the best without question. Those are the 10 best WRs in the game. Rank them however you want really. Just missing cut: Ridley, DK, OBJ, Kupp, Woods Up and coming: Jefferson Higgins Terry McClauren Sutton Lamb Deebo Samuel Late night drunk WR rankings, I'm in. Allen Robinson is absolutely a deep threat and one of my favorites in the league. So underrated. I appreciate this though, and will counter with the following: 1. Nuk 2. Diggs 3. Michael Thomas (of last year anyway, who knows) 4. Adams 5. Hill 6. Julio Jones (I don't believe he's hit an age wall and is still a freak when healthy. HOF easy) 7. Allen 8. Evans 9. Robinson 10/11/12: Cooper, Jefferson, Ridley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: was watching a video about fantasy football and Diggs earlier in the week and something they said was he doesn't have all those flashy TDs like DK but he's just so damn consistent right up at the level of D Hopkins. Several times this year the guys I know that know football the best wondered why the Bills don't throw to Diggs in the endzone when in the redzone. Today they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Won't be popular but Diggs is gonna be the best WR Buffalo ever had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Real McNasty said: Won't be popular but Diggs is gonna be the best WR Buffalo ever had. And Josh will be the best QB Buffalo ever had... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He definitely is an All-Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Just another Seahawk they (media) couldn't wait to hand an award to. Surprised the worst coverage safety in the NFL isn't up for DPOY. You havnt been impressed with his constant bull rushes against backup rb’s on 3rd downs all year? 😂 Get the man a gold jacket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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