Big Turk Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Oh how the mighty have fallen...while I think it's a little ridiculous when you have Gilmore, JC Jackson and McCourty on the team, it is pretty hilarious to see Pat fans talk up their punter... Brings back so many years of memories with Brian Moorman during the peak of the drought years... https://sports.yahoo.com/jake-bailey-patriots-best-player-040543905.html 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 That guy is pretty good though. But still...he's no Brian Moorman! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Are you telling me we shouldn't have taken Bojo?? 4D chess from Bill, once again... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I feel like JC Jackson is better than Gilmore this year. Or maybe Gilmore isn't putting in the effort. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 The Patriots were hurt as bad as any team in the league due to Covid lockouts. Dance on their grave while you are still able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Beast said: The Patriots were hurt as bad as any team in the league due to Covid lockouts. Dance on their grave while you are still able to. We have the best QB in the division now and likely will for a long time. That trumps everything. Edited December 11, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Beast said: The Patriots were hurt as bad as any team in the league due to Covid lockouts. Dance on their grave while you are still able to. I don't even know that the Pats have a grave to dance on quite yet, at present. They did a pretty thorough shred job on the Chargers. They still have a HOF coach. He's pretty good at figuring out what went wrong, and fixing it. The Rams and McVay were motivated; this was their Revenge Tour. Goff's passing numbers were still nothing to sing about. OTOH, the Patriots have some of the most spoilt, arrogant, un-knowledgeable, entitled fans in the league (they have knowledgeable and reasonable fans too, of course). So I think a brief GLOAT! or two is appropriate. 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: We have the best QB in the division now and likely will for a long time. That trumps everything. We have a very promising guy indeed, and I love me some Josh. We do still need to see how he does for the long haul. I'd love to see the 49ers game become the "new normal", but it is a point that their defense was much depleted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 It was a sad day when Spike Jones was waived. The whole city was in shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Welcome to our prior residence for 20 years. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't even know that the Pats have a grave to dance on quite yet, at present. They did a pretty thorough shred job on the Chargers. They still have a HOF coach. He's pretty good at figuring out what went wrong, and fixing it. The Rams and McVay were motivated; this was their Revenge Tour. Goff's passing numbers were still nothing to sing about. OTOH, the Patriots have some of the most spoilt, arrogant, un-knowledgeable, entitled fans in the league (they have knowledgeable and reasonable fans too, of course). So I think a brief GLOAT! or two is appropriate. We have a very promising guy indeed, and I love me some Josh. We do still need to see how he does for the long haul. I'd love to see the 49ers game become the "new normal", but it is a point that their defense was much depleted. Your opinion is more tempered than mine. After 18 years of bragging, cheating, hometown spots, eye-rolling ref favoritism, getting the rules changed simply because their quarterback got hurt on a fluke play...not to mention the general *****ery like their totally-not-spy-assistant coaches turning up everywhere, running up the score because why not, and seeding every NFL broadcast team in the business with ex-Pats from the burned spygate tapes era...they haven't even started to get what's coming to them. Edited December 11, 2020 by Coffeesforclosers 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Awaiting your return… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't even know that the Pats have a grave to dance on quite yet, at present. They did a pretty thorough shred job on the Chargers. They still have a HOF coach. He's pretty good at figuring out what went wrong, and fixing it. The Rams and McVay were motivated; this was their Revenge Tour. Goff's passing numbers were still nothing to sing about. OTOH, the Patriots have some of the most spoilt, arrogant, un-knowledgeable, entitled fans in the league (they have knowledgeable and reasonable fans too, of course). So I think a brief GLOAT! or two is appropriate. We have a very promising guy indeed, and I love me some Josh. We do still need to see how he does for the long haul. I'd love to see the 49ers game become the "new normal", but it is a point that their defense was much depleted. Tell Jared Goff that the week before when they throttled him with the same lineup. Goff's statline: 19 of 31 for 198 yards 0 TDs and 2 INTs Edited December 11, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Your opinion is more tempered than mine. After 18 years of bragging, cheating, hometown spots, eye-rolling ref favoritism, getting the rules changed simply because their quarterback got hurt on a fluke play...not to mention the general *****ery like their totally-not-spy-assistant coaches turning up everywhere, running up the score because why not, and seeding every NFL broadcast team in the business with ex-Pats from the burned spygate tapes era...they haven't even started to get what's coming to them. All that you say is true....and yet, in the paraphrased words of Gandalf, “Many that win deserve loss. And some that lose deserve wins. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out football loss in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends” One of the petty frustrations to me comes with the continued harping on the Bills wins and losses past. Does Josh Allen really need to have it thrown up to him that the Bills haven't won on Monday Night Football since the year before he was born? Why does that have to be laid on his shoulders? By the same token, at some point the Evil Hoodie will be gone, and the current crop of players and coaches will not deserve to have the "Things Just Happen when you Play in Foxboro" mantle bound on to their shoulders. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Don't let him run a fake punt in the Pro Bowl!!(click on watch on Youtube) Edited December 11, 2020 by Special K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: All that you say is true....and yet, in the paraphrased words of Gandalf, “Many that win deserve loss. And some that lose deserve wins. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out football loss in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends” One of the petty frustrations to me comes with the continued harping on the Bills wins and losses past. Does Josh Allen really need to have it thrown up to him that the Bills haven't won on Monday Night Football since the year before he was born? Why does that have to be laid on his shoulders? By the same token, at some point the Evil Hoodie will be gone, and the current crop of players and coaches will not deserve to have the "Things Just Happen when you Play in Foxboro" mantle bound on to their shoulders. Poor use of the wizards phrasing imo, cheating and death are quite different... the pats organization and all those individuals who happily and knowingly benefited deserve retribution, hopefully in our life times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 What about that K they drafted a round before Bass? How's he doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Beast said: The Patriots were hurt as bad as any team in the league due to Covid lockouts. Dance on their grave while you are still able to. Who opted out that would’ve made up for losing Brady? Canon or Hightower? Maybe they would’ve had an extra win with them playing, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Who opted out that would’ve made up for losing Brady? Canon or Hightower? Maybe they would’ve had an extra win with them playing, maybe not. Hightower doesn't play QB and neither does Cannon, who declined last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Who opted out that would’ve made up for losing Brady? Canon or Hightower? Maybe they would’ve had an extra win with them playing, maybe not. If you think the Patriots will employ a QB that throws 5 TD passes through three quarters of the season next year I have a bridge to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Beast said: If you think the Patriots will employ a QB that throws 5 TD passes through three quarters of the season next year I have a bridge to sell you. Yeah, he's likely gone. But who replaces him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, he's likely gone. But who replaces him? I think there will be a ton of options for them. Hell, even Fitzpatrick would be 10 times better than Newton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 That was totally on my mind last night. It was almost Bledsoe-era Bills - fans wanting to believe a former #1 pick could save the team, and the punter being the best player on the field. Combine that w/ Josh being the best QB from his draft class and the Bills being a D-lineman or 2 away from being a juggernaut, and these are really good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Beast said: I think there will be a ton of options for them. Hell, even Fitzpatrick would be 10 times better than Newton. Signing Fitz would just be spinning their wheels. Who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Doc said: Signing Fitz would just be spinning their wheels. Who else? Stafford, Darnold, Dalton, Garapollo, Ryan, Wentz......all names that have been rumored of having a new destination next year. We saw some big name QB’s change teams this past off-season. I think we will see it again for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: That guy is pretty good though. But still...he's no Brian Moorman! Brian Moorman was a good enough athlete that if he trained he probably could have been a DB. I have not seen him catching a ball but he had good size, speed and could tackle well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Beast said: Stafford, Darnold, Dalton, Garapollo, Ryan, Wentz......all names that have been rumored of having a new destination next year. We saw some big name QB’s change teams this past off-season. I think we will see it again for next year. Stafford, Ryan (who I seriously doubt is being talked about as being released) and Wentz can't be released after this season because it will kill their teams' caps, while Stafford has been a losing QB and Wentz is garbage now. And while I love Dalton, he's no longer any good and is struggling with a stacked offense in Dallas. Garropolo is a possibility but without a better option in place, I can't see the 49'ers releasing him, while several other teams might be in play and willing to offer more. Edited December 12, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Don't you dare bring back suppressed memories of my boy Moorman lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, MJS said: I feel like JC Jackson is better than Gilmore this year. Or maybe Gilmore isn't putting in the effort. The later...as he did in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 hours ago, MJS said: I feel like JC Jackson is better than Gilmore this year. Or maybe Gilmore isn't putting in the effort. I can't disagree. Gilmore has been hurt for the last few weeks which may be impacting his play. He may also be making a business decision to avoid more serious injuries. He has had a front row seat at practice to see how bad their offense is and realizes that they are just playing out the string this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 We can laugh at the Pats* this year but they had a lot of guys opt out and their D will be stacked next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 hours ago, matter2003 said: Oh how the mighty have fallen...while I think it's a little ridiculous when you have Gilmore, JC Jackson and McCourty on the team, it is pretty hilarious to see Pat fans talk up their punter... Brings back so many years of memories with Brian Moorman during the peak of the drought years... https://sports.yahoo.com/jake-bailey-patriots-best-player-040543905.html Sucks having that conversation but we were there for years. I don’t think anyone will feel sorry for Pats fans. This year I barely remember seeing our punter, that’s the way I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Kind of wild to be saying that when JC Jackson leads the NFL with 8 picks, 2 more than the season leaders last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: I can't disagree. Gilmore has been hurt for the last few weeks which may be impacting his play. He may also be making a business decision to avoid more serious injuries. He has had a front row seat at practice to see how bad their offense is and realizes that they are just playing out the string this year. And he already has a propensity to do that. He is a me-first player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, KCNC said: We can laugh at the Pats* this year but they had a lot of guys opt out and their D will be stacked next year. They may not have the cap next year for all of the players who opted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 15 hours ago, Beast said: If you think the Patriots will employ a QB that throws 5 TD passes through three quarters of the season next year I have a bridge to sell you. I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say here. You suggested that the reason the Patsies are down this year is due to Covid lockouts. I said the real reason was them losing Brady, not Covid, and this is a permanent loss. I don’t see anyone on their Covid opt out list that would’ve made much of a difference. As for lockouts, Cam missed one game, but the issue is he really isn’t that good anymore, Covid or no Covid. Maybe Edelman? But he’s out due to an injury, not Covid. So, exactly how have the Pats been negatively affected by Covid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say here. You suggested that the reason the Patsies are down this year is due to Covid lockouts. I said the real reason was them losing Brady, not Covid, and this is a permanent loss. I don’t see anyone on their Covid opt out list that would’ve made much of a difference. As for lockouts, Cam missed one game, but the issue is he really isn’t that good anymore, Covid or no Covid. Maybe Edelman? But he’s out due to an injury, not Covid. So, exactly how have the Pats been negatively affected by Covid? I'm stating that Cam Newton sucks and half their defense was out.....and they still are 6-7 and damned near knocked us off. The Patriots will once again be a team. to be reckoned with next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beast said: I'm stating that Cam Newton sucks and half their defense was out.....and they still are 6-7 and damned near knocked us off. The Patriots will once again be a team. to be reckoned with next season. The Cheater's only notable defensive opt-out was Hightower, who is on the wrong side of 30 and doesn't play QB. And again, their QB situation will still be a problem next year as the options also won't be that good. Edited December 12, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I remember Joe Buck on the broadcast saying, "Jake Bailey is outplaying Johnny Hekker tonight." So they got that going for them...which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 20 hours ago, NickelCity said: Are you telling me we shouldn't have taken Bojo?? 4D chess from Bill, once again... We don’t need a punter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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