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He is one tough son of a B word.

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You have no damned idea what is going on with his ankle/knee or anything else.

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Or with how he was running after the ankle maybe robot leg?

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On 11/29/2020 at 7:27 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Was I the only guy that saw this and immediately thought, “he’s fine” only because the dude is a warrior? 

 

When it comes to Allen, I never immediately think "he's fine", I always brace myself for Barkley on the next play.  I guess its a defense mechanism.

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16 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

When it comes to Allen, I never immediately think "he's fine", I always brace myself for Barkley on the next play.  I guess its a defense mechanism.

On that one barkley play on Sunday - joe Marino said on the Locked on bills podcast that it looke to him like barkley called the wrong protection and it wasn’t entirely on the OL. 
 

I like barkley as a teammate and all but I think I’d rather have Davis Webb as backup 

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On 11/29/2020 at 3:39 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

That play was on him. He misread the read option and then after that should have just eaten the sack. 

 

I know some say take the read option out but the Bills were making a concerted effort to run plays that would back off the pass rush and the read option is in that category. It worked too. Our oline was able to pass protect much better 2nd half once we had established we were willing to zone read and screen pass and double pass and do stuff that used the defense's aggressiveness against them. 

 

I am not sure who Allen is looking at sometimes with those read option plays - I rarely see him pitch the ball to his running back even when it is clear that the defense is focused on him and his running back has a better lane. He will often keep that ball and dive head-first into the scrum. This is an area of self-scouting that Allen is going to need to address.

 

I do think it is a bit of the hero ball mentality, but also the fact that play makers want the ball in their hands, the puck on their stick, to be up to bat with the bases loaded and the game on the line. He is just going to have to mature and balance that attitude with the fact that there are 10 other guys out there that can help him move the ball.

 

I do think we executed some QB draws that worked really well and the screens have been mostly hit and less miss, and when they hit they go for a lot of yards. Definitely cooled their jets a bit on the pass rush.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

When it comes to Allen, I never immediately think "he's fine", I always brace myself for Barkley on the next play.  I guess its a defense mechanism.

This! I wish I could understand why Barkley is still on the team. He isn’t veteran enough to help teach Josh ‘the ropes’, has absolutely nothing in his game that compares to Allen’s skills for continuity should he have to enter a game and has a noodle arm no one fears.

 

Rely on your fear. It will serve you well.

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19 hours ago, Real McNasty said:

Limited yesterday in practice. Hope everything is a go for Monday.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/02/all-eyes-on-bills-injury-report-for-josh-allens-ankle/

 

 

Where did you get the information "limited yesterday in practice"? 

Bills didn't provide an injury report for Weds

For Thurs he is listed as "full"

 

 

11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

On that one barkley play on Sunday - joe Marino said on the Locked on bills podcast that it looke to him like barkley called the wrong protection and it wasn’t entirely on the OL. 
 

I like barkley as a teammate and all but I think I’d rather have Davis Webb as backup 

 

Morse said in his postgame presser that the fumbled snap and the Barkley sack was on him.

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10 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Allen is a full participant and said he doesn't expect it to be a hindrance at all moving forward.

 

Yeah, that's what he always says but the fact is he was hindered a game or two after he hurt his ankle and got it taped up in the Ravens game, he was hindered a couple games after injurying his L shoulder against LV, and he'll probably be hindered a couple games with this.

 

Though the way he ran in the 2nd half - maybe his expectations on this are more reasonable

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11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

On that one barkley play on Sunday - joe Marino said on the Locked on bills podcast that it looke to him like barkley called the wrong protection and it wasn’t entirely on the OL. 
 

I like barkley as a teammate and all but I think I’d rather have Davis Webb as backup 

 

Interesting. Was odd that they left Bosa completely unblocked. I said in the summer that our backup situation was bottom 5 in the NFL and was flamed for it. Luckily Josh is a terminator.

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I don't usually get the "Josh is hot" stuff but in that blue Superman t-shirt...… WOW. :wub:

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49 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

This! I wish I could understand why Barkley is still on the team. He isn’t veteran enough to help teach Josh ‘the ropes’, has absolutely nothing in his game that compares to Allen’s skills for continuity should he have to enter a game and has a noodle arm no one fears.

 

Rely on your fear. It will serve you well.

I’m pretty sure it’s still because of the ONE good game he has had for his entire career...that’s the only explanation I can come up with 

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Just now, Ya Digg? said:

I’m pretty sure it’s still because of the ONE good game he has had for his entire career...that’s the only explanation I can come up with 

 

Exactly. Bills fans think he is better than he is because his best career game ever was his Bills debut. That is the exception. Awfulness is the rule.

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13 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

I’m pretty sure it’s still because of the ONE good game he has had for his entire career...that’s the only explanation I can come up with 

Thats definitely it but he’s been so bad since then and that was so long ago plus it was the freaking Jets 

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Everything else aside, it was great to watch Barkley stomp the Jets. 

 

55 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Darnold please? 

 

Man he has no help, but he has looked so bad this season. Like he can't read a D at all, and is so scared to throw.

 

It's hard to look at it independent of the dog**** team he's on, but I feel like a better QB would do more.

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4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Where did you get the information "limited yesterday in practice"? 

Bills didn't provide an injury report for Weds

For Thurs he is listed as "full"

 

He was full practice Weds. My bad, I misread something from here --> https://thebuffalofanatics.com/josh-allens-knee-injury/

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4 hours ago, Tuel Time said:

We'll move on from Matt after this season IMO.

 

The table is set and the meal is ready. Fighting over the ingredients will have to wait until the offseason. 

Beat me to it.. Barkley will be gone.. although Fromm may never be starting material, Barkley isn’t exactly the best backup either.. should be easy to replace.. Wouldn’t mind another late round pick on a project QB to groom behind Josh..

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4 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Beat me to it.. Barkley will be gone.. although Fromm may never be starting material, Barkley isn’t exactly the best backup either.. should be easy to replace.. Wouldn’t mind another late round pick on a project QB to groom behind Josh..

 

I think Fromm will be given every opportunity to earn the backup role next Spring.

 

He’s been handed a hard road this season and if nothing else, he deserves to get some props for it.  

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4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Nobody here wants to admit it. He  injured his ankle and knee last week. There's no way he got out of that play unscathed.  He was running on full adrenaline rest of the game. I'm not surprised if his ankle and knee has swollen up to a size of a volleyball. 

 

You have no damned idea what is going on with his ankle/knee or anything else.

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31 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

I can't lie, I want Darnold as our backup just because of his bromance with Josh.  That said, no way would I ever trade for him, and I'm sure the Jets will be looking for at least a 2nd.

 

Darnold won't land here. Jets will probably trade him but not to us. 

 

I'll be fine with a Jameis Winston/Andy Dalton. 

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On 12/3/2020 at 9:23 PM, YoloinOhio said:

On that one barkley play on Sunday - joe Marino said on the Locked on bills podcast that it looke to him like barkley called the wrong protection and it wasn’t entirely on the OL. 
 

I like barkley as a teammate and all but I think I’d rather have Davis Webb as backup 

When he was here, a lot were impressed by his package🧐

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The health of Josh Allen will be vital to their chances of doing so, as he suffered an injury in the 2nd quarter of Sunday’s game against the Chargers. With 3:50 left on the clock in the 2nd quarter, Allen tried doing a little too much on a play that was dead and resulted in him being tacked awkwardly by Chargers’ DE Joey Bosa (who is an absolute game wrecker). All of Bills Mafia around the world was holding their collective breath when Allen was on the ground in obvious pain. It was encouraging and relieving when Allen got up and was able to jog off of the field, and he didn’t go into the blue medical tent or even get looked at by the trainers. He missed one play. (NFL rules require an injured player to sit out the play following the injury that forced them to leave the field.) Allen came back out to finish the drive, which ended with a Tyler Bass field goal.

Initially, I thought it was an ankle injury myself when it first occurred. The replay showed him get bent awkwardly, and it looked like his ankle buckled. However, if you look closely, you can see it’s the knee that gets twisted up, not the ankle

When Allen returned to the field for the 2nd half, he was wearing a brace to his right knee, something he has not worn before. This helps rule out the ankle and clearly shows that he suffered a right knee injury. Thankfully, an ACL injury can be ruled out, as this would have been caught by the training staff during halftime, and Allen would not have returned. What we are looking at is probably an MCL injury, which is usually associated with the type of awkward twisting that occurred with Allen on the tackle. In the second half with the brace, Allen had three rushes with one for a touchdown. He did not appear to be limited from it. After the game, Allen said, “I just got twisted up a little bit. It happens, but it’s not going to affect me.” There have been no additional comments on the injury from Allen or the team at this time.

Grade 1 and 2 MCL sprains are treated with supportive measures which include the famous RICE (rest, ice, compression, and elevation). Physical therapy will be done as well (once the swelling subsides) that includes mobility and strengthening exercises to facilitate the full restoration of the ligament. Grade 3, which is a complete tear or rupture usually requires surgery. For a timeframe, grade 1 and 2 sprains can take between 3-6 weeks to return to 100%. Grade 3 usually takes around 12 weeks.

For Allen, Grade 3 can be ruled out. If MCL sprain is the case for Allen, it’s most likely a grade 1 sprain. Allen returned to the game and only missed one play. He played the entire second half with the brace on, but it didn’t appear to limit him all that much. He was able to plant the leg and throw effectively, and he looked more than comfortable running the ball as well.

It would take a lot for Josh Allen to miss games, as he is an insane competitor. I don’t expect Allen to miss any time, and I expect he will continue to play with the brace on until the playoffs. However, if he does play, this does raise the risk for further injury that could be much worse, as the knee has lost some stability. Brian Daboll may want to dial back on the called QB runs, and the offensive line needs to step up because Allen was under duress all game on Sunday. Allen needs to be kept clean and given great pockets, so he doesn’t get banged up even more.

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It is important for me to remind you all that this has not been confirmed by the team or any reporters. At this time, my guess is a Grade 1 MCL sprain, and I don’t think Allen will miss any time. Do not be shocked if Allen pops up on the injury report at practice this week and is listed as a limited participant.

 

https://thebuffalofanatics.com/josh-allens-knee-injury/?fbclid=IwAR1AeYPfK_CsJ8oMwp3o4UhKGuoq-NAzLLIOmUq-qp3jxFuQZMrffJAsugQ

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On 11/29/2020 at 3:35 PM, GunnerBill said:

I thought knee initially to be honest. Then on the replay they talked about ankle. To come in and play as he did not sure it is too serious. Hopefully not.


yeah is was running so well after the injury. Hopefully it is fine this week and didn’t tighten up on him. 

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In confess that this knee injury has me worried, even if as of now as far as we know it does not look serious. It makes Allen vulnerable, and if he goes down, the team is in trouble. 

 

I know, BBFS, but it's hard to shake. 

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