BillsFanSD Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Have some perspective! I'll take Two Guys Who Won't Be Employed By The Jets Next Year for $100 please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Just my two cents, and change: I guess I can't be too mad at this game. Offense looked so undisciplined in the second half, that it's hard to remember the good things from the first. At one point in the first half, the ref announced #71 as an eligible receiver. I had forgotten who that was-- Ryan Bates. But, the rest of the O-line starters were out there. Were they playing him like a TE? Weird. Knox blocks sucks. (And he used a lot more effort reeling in that TD than was necessary) Lee's blocks are damn good. What the hell? Klein is legit? What happened midseason to get him to flip that switch? If we're going to be a base 4-2-5 defense, we need a better nickel than Taron Johnson. Our run game seemed to emerge in the second half, in no small part to improved O-line play in that area. I can forgive Motor's fumble, but I don't feel like we have complimentary backs. I'll take Motor over Moss, although there are people on this board that disagree. And, I'm not saying Moss is terrible, but IMO he's not a good compliment. I'm not sure I wouldn't feel better with Yeldon out there. Moss has been a disappointment, if you ask me. This offense really misses Smoke when he's not there. I think Allen/McD needed to spread the ball around more in the second half. The TEs were invisible, McKenzie was a non-factor, and with Diggs playing so many short routes, there was little speed on the field, and we weren't that hard to cover in the second. Poor offensive adjustments at the half. Great defensive adjustments at the half, though. The Chargers O became demoralized. Edited November 29, 2020 by Rocky Landing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: They DID finish the game. With a win. What does "finish a game" mean to you? I'm happy we won. But anyone who thinks today was a good enough is sorely mistaken. We were fortunate Lynn and the Chargers self-destruct regularly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Allen missed a few. The int was a difficult throw and his arm got hit so it looks like a terrible throw and decision. The balls supposed to float to the sideline away from the safety. The fumble by Singletary was the big killer. Fumbled snaps suck but getting stripped from behind always bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: One thing that does worry me some is: We drafted Allen for his big strong arm and he has shown the arm strength many times. But whenever the weather/wind is any kind of a factor Allen has had his least impressive games. Admittedly they ran the ball much better which is good and not that he threw the ball bad at all, but still does worry me a little. Allen had that crazy off throw on the WR screen. That and INT 2 bad throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 in no universe is allen ever going to be better than mahommes. bills made wrong decision trading back in the draft w chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 There’s many times I disagree with the refs and think they make bad calls.... This crew today honestly should not be allowed to ref another game this year. That whole second half was full of crap calls. Early on they were blowing early whistles. Personal Fouls called that were unavoidable. Poyers call, Oliver’s call and definitely Davis call were all crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I'm happy we won. But anyone who thinks today was a good enough is sorely mistaken. We were fortunate Lynn and the Chargers self-destruct regularly. They played the team they played. This is who the chargers are. The chargers are 3-8 for a reason. They’ve lost all their games by one score except one... the Bills. They went to OT vs the saints. They would have beaten the chiefs if not not for a 58 yard FG. Bills beat them by 2 scores. What is the issue. Edited November 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They played the team the played. The chargers are 3-8 for a reason. They’ve lost all their games by one score except one... the Bills. What is the issue. the problem is they never look like the titans or chiefs and completely dominate a team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: There’s many times I disagree with the refs and think they make bad calls.... This crew today honestly should not be allowed to ref another game this year. That whole second half was full of crap calls. Early on they were blowing early whistles. Personal Fouls called that were unavoidable. Poyers call, Oliver’s call and definitely Davis call were all crap. Moss call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They played the team they played. This is who the chargers are. The chargers are 3-8 for a reason. They’ve lost all their games by one score except one... the Bills. They went to OT vs the saints. They would have beaten the chiefs if not not for a 58 yard FG. Bills beat them by 2 scores. What is the issue. Not good enough. Acceptance of that performance is not what we're all after. I doubt McDermott will be very happy this week either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, balln said: the problem is they never look like the titans or chiefs and completely dominate a team The CFP committee will be sure to take that into consideration when they utilize the eye test to determine the playoff participants 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I'm happy we won. But anyone who thinks today was a good enough is sorely mistaken. We were fortunate Lynn and the Chargers self-destruct regularly. Never indicated happiness...but questioned the original commenter about what "finishing" means to them. We turned it over 4 times in the 4th quarter, had multiple stops at key times, got a key FG at the end, and FINISHED THE GAME WITH A WIN. That was my only point. Not sure what "finish" means when you WIN. The Cards game....sure, talk all you want about "FINISHING" but this game...was "FINISHED" with a WIN. 8-3. You'd think we were were 3-8 based on a lot of posts on here. We won! We did it! Enjoy it! Better to win and have things to work on, than to lose and have things to work on! We FINISHED WITH A WIN! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: The CFP committee will be sure to take that into consideration when they utilize the eye test to determine the playoff participants youre missing the point dude. this team has texans bounced 1st rd loss all over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Not good enough. Acceptance of that performance is not what we're all after. I doubt McDermott will be very happy this week either. A win is a win as far im concerned. I’m not mcdermott. I’m sure he’s never that happy like any coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I'm happy we won. But anyone who thinks today was a good enough is sorely mistaken. We were fortunate Lynn and the Chargers self-destruct regularly. It literally WAS good enough. What are you trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 It is not so much that the Bills won this game today. It is more that they just ran out of time to lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, Johnnycage46 said: Never indicated happiness...but questioned the original commenter about what "finishing" means to them. We turned it over 4 times in the 4th quarter, had multiple stops at key times, got a key FG at the end, and FINISHED THE GAME WITH A WIN. That was my only point. Not sure what "finish" means when you WIN. The Cards game....sure, talk all you want about "FINISHING" but this game...was "FINISHED" with a WIN. 8-3. You'd think we were were 3-8 based on a lot of posts on here. We won! We did it! Enjoy it! Better to win and have things to work on, than to lose and have things to work on! We FINISHED WITH A WIN! No argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They never trailed in the game. They didn’t need to “find a way”, they finished the game and won by two scores My complaint is the messaging from the coaching staff and not the actual score of the game. Put teams away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, balln said: the problem is they never look like the titans or chiefs and completely dominate a team The titans lost to the Bengals. Actually no, they were dominated by the Bengals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, wvbillsfan said: My complaint is the messaging from the coaching staff and not the actual score of the game. Put teams away What was the messaging? They did put them away. They never trailed in the game and won by 2 scores. This isn’t college. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 they looked like dog poop agaisnt TEN and KC this year. they wont get past either team this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It was ugly but the win was still predicated on our guys making big plays. Klein, Tre, Oliver, Beasley to Davis. We were still the better team. Chargers had players dedicated to taking care of Klein and he still made plays. Look how much things have changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: Ugly win but I’ll take it.... doesn’t look like a team that will beat the likes of the Chiefs or Titans in the playoffs but you never know. The Chargers had not lost by more than 8 points all season until this game. The Bills beat them by 10. The Chargers lost to the Chiefs by 3 (in OT), the Saints by 3 (in OT), and the Buccaneers by 7. They are a good team. This was a good win! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8-3, fairly comfortable lead in the division - this is the best position we've been in at the end of November since the '90's. Loving it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, chknwing334 said: The Chargers had not lost by more than 8 points all season until this game. The Bills beat them by 10. The Chargers lost to the Chiefs by 3 (in OT), the Saints by 3 (in OT), and the Buccaneers by 7. They are a good team. This was a good win! and honestly the Bills should of beaten them by more. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Allen was under too much pressure and wasn’t comfortable all day. He’s been given a ton of time to throw all year but the Chargers today (mostly Bosa but also Tillery) weren’t having it. Just imagine if Ingram had played. There is no excuse for letting a great passrusher dominate an entire game like that. On one of his sacks they forgot to even block him. The offense was a sloppy mess all day and it’s definitely McD’s worst effort coming off a bye (he’s usually got his team ready after the rest week). Just not a great NFL product on the field today - pretty much across the league. Lots of sloppy plays, weird officiating, the announcers sound tired, it’s been a long year and people are tired from having to socialize a bit after months of isolation (my theory). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, balln said: they looked like dog poop agaisnt TEN and KC this year. they wont get past either team this year ✍️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 You know what they call an ugly win? I'll take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 This is the whiniest fan base in the league. My goodness... 8 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: They DID finish the game. With a win. What does "finish a game" mean to you? Putting teams away so a bad call or a bad play can’t beat you. If you want to fly your they won flag football ahead I don’t mind. I’m extremely happy they got they win. The issue I have is the lack of execution and focus in the second half. It’s either the offense or defense that lets down in the second half because of mental errors and lack of focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: It literally WAS good enough. What are you trying to say? If you can't understand that the way we played in fourth quarter especially is not good enough I can't help. They did some things some of which have been repeated over and over that will not play against good opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, MJS said: This is the whiniest fan base in the league. My goodness... it’s not even close to the Ohio state fan base. But thank god im part of both because I can double the fun. Edited November 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: The Singletary fumble, the Allen pick, and the Allen fumble so late in the game just cant let me feel great. Giving up that hail mary was surreal and weird. Week in and week out, so dissapointed with Hyde, and even Poyer. Great to be 8-3 ...should go 9-3 but who knows with this crew. Where is Hyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Steptide said: We also didn't even lose that 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Chargers had players dedicated to taking care of Klein and he still made plays. Look how much things have changed. As far as I can tell he's never been used as a blitz specialist, more as a run thumper. Maximum credit to Leslie Frazier for understanding Klein's potential in getting after the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: If you can't understand that the way we played in fourth quarter especially is not good enough I can't help. They did some things some of which have been repeated over and over that will not play against good opponents. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) I now understand about people on this site complaining that you can't say anything negative after a win. It's ludicrous .Bills are perfect is that better Edited November 29, 2020 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: If you can't understand that the way we played in fourth quarter especially is not good enough I can't help. They did some things some of which have been repeated over and over that will not play against good opponents. They have beaten lots of good opponents THIS YEAR. They have beaten the most winning teams in the league (as of last week). So are you saying the Bills aren't a good team? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He did not play very well. He’s in a little bit of a funk right now. His play still qualifies as “pretty good,” but the bad play ratio has skyrocketed of late. Noticing the same...could have easily had 4 INTs vs. the Cardinals... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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