LB48 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Oliver simply can't create any problems for our opponents. He's a great athlete but a bust as a pass rusher. And, we so need an elite pass rusher. Edmunds has regressed terribly. Watch how many plays he's just running around and accomplishing nothing. He isn't strong enough to make the big tackles and certainly isn't a stud MLB that a Championship team needs. 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Busts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Saint Doug said: Busts I'm afraid so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'd give an HM to Tre White. After signing that huge contract I'd expect him to continue playing to at least a pro-bowl level, but he's been pretty bad (and now injured). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Ya, neither are impact players. Being solid starters would make them still good picks but they ain't there, not consistently. Edmunds has been just trash this year. Cheeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We truly miss Star on that DL. I know Oliver misses him taking up two blockers. Edmunds? Sheesh, I got nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds has been lost since he started in the NFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds has looked absolutely horrible all season and it's clear as day. I don't think that's the case with Oliver as he has his moments where he can make plays but at the same time he was supposed to be a monster and a gamebreaker but he has really been just average up to this point. I've been saying for awhile this defense lacks elite talent. You aren't going to have a top defense in the NFL that can carry you to a championship without at least having one or two elite level players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, H2o said: We truly miss Star on that DL. I know Oliver misses him taking up two blockers. Edmunds? Sheesh, I got nothing. Maybe Edmund's shoulder injury has affected his speed....he looks rather slow ?? I think they miss Jordan Phillips more than Star actually. Edited October 14, 2020 by Azucho98 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 They aren't busts in that they are that bad, just not what we'd expect from 1st round selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, H2o said: We truly miss Star on that DL. I know Oliver misses him taking up two blockers. Edmunds? Sheesh, I got nothing. I think Edmunds was a talented kid but didn't grow up into the NFL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 No gap discipline by Edmunds and no penetration by Oliver. Not a good start to the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds was average to begin with. The Bills did a good job of PR on him but he has been the second best linebacker on the team his entire career. He is getting abused without Milano out there. Right now he isnt playing well enough for a 5th year option 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said: Edmunds has looked absolutely horrible all season and it's clear as day. I don't think that's the case with Oliver as he has his moments where he can make plays but at the same time he was supposed to be a monster and a gamebreaker but he has really been just average up to this point. I've been saying for awhile this defense lacks elite talent. You aren't going to have a top defense in the NFL that can carry you to a championship without at least having one or two elite level players. Very, very true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Beane made huge mistake not resigning Philips , we have no push up the middle and DE are just going up field. Philips has 2 sacks and multiple QB pressures this season, he also had a great personality. Free agency was a mess this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, LB48 said: I think Edmunds was a talented kid but didn't grow up into the NFL game. I mean he's only 21. Maybe the switch to OLB is needed at this point. He is just too undisciplined to play in the middle. Playing outside would hide some of his flaws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Jerome007 said: They aren't busts in that they are that bad, just not what we'd expect from 1st round selections. Edmunds has been bad..regardless of where he was drafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Disappointed in Ed. I always felt 58 was smarter and better than 49 and I hope the Front Office is humble enough to admit that in their contract talks moving forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, H2o said: I mean he's only 21. Maybe the switch to OLB is needed at this point. He is just too undisciplined to play in the middle. Playing outside would hide some of his flaws. Its getting a little late in the game to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Ewwwwwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Its getting a little late in the game to move him. 21 is "late in the game"? Yeah, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds is just terrible. Honestly I'd rather have Posluszny back there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Its getting a little late in the game to move him. Yeah he will be 22 soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyd415 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Could we use more talent, yes. But at what point does coaching/motivating players begins to be questioned? We are playing sloppy, slow, and soft. We hit no one with authority, just hug the ball carrier and get dragged 3-5 yards while waiting for some teammates to push him over. No aggression, fire, or desire to be great on that side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Edmunds was average to begin with. The Bills did a good job of PR on him but he has been the second best linebacker on the team his entire career. He is getting abused without Milano out there. Right now he isnt playing well enough for a 5th year option He’s only 21 and they were just talking on Sunday night how they’ve moved KJ Wright around for Seattle. Not sure why Edmunds couldn’t move outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Edmunds has been terrible and Oliver has regressed, but I'm not gonna place blame or give up on any players when literally every player on defense outside of Milano has noticeably regressed this year. Edited October 14, 2020 by gobills404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, mattynh said: Yeah he will be 22 soon I don't care how old he is. After 3 seasons he's shown nothing but hype from the front office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds sucks right now. I got ripped for saying we should rotate Dodson in but it’s not funny. Edmunds looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. He thinks way to much and doesn’t flash at all. It’s very upsetting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Oliver has had some moments this season but he needs to start to show consistency. Almost halfway through his second year we need more than flashes. I am now officially concerned on Edmunds. Major regression from 2019. He is swimming out there. I wonder a bit if they have changed a lot up to try and compensate for not having Star and Edmunds is thinking too much instead of playing fast? Or maybe he is hurt? I don't know but he is playing mainly bad football. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, mattynh said: Yeah he will be 22 soon I meant his contract. They have no viable option to move him this year. And next year is his last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Somebody will have to take the blame for Edmunds. He's not getting it done. He's the middle linebacker. He's playing the same as he did year one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 So what you are saying is neither are vocal leaders with a burning desire to hold themselves accountable or their teammates? No Ray Lewis’, Kyle Williams’, Darryl Talleys’, Mike Singletarys’ on the D side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Question: If the middle linebacker is colloquially referred to as the "QB of the defence" - why in the hell did we move up to pick 16 in the draft to get what appears in my eyes to be Blaine Gabbert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds may be hampered significantly by his shoulder injury, but even last year his play was, at best, uneven. Middle linebacker may not be the right position for him and he may never develop into a very good linebacker wherever he plays. Oliver does seem pretty average so far, but he would have more opportunities to make plays if he had a true run stopping/space eater defensive tackle. Coming into the season, we had poor depth at linebacker, and it is hurting us now. I expected more from Klein, but he may not fit the current scheme which seems to depend on linebackers with speed and who can cover. Our drafts under Beane have been better overall, but Edmunds, who was expensive in terms of the draft capital used to move up and select him, Oliver and Ford have all been disappointing overall. We really need more from these first and second round draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 A Star type player is definitely missed. Harrison isn't going to cut it in that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds is big, slow and can't tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmund more than any LB in the NFL needs his D-Line to keep the O-Line off him. The defense needs major changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Let's face it, Edmunds isn't good at anything but being big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: They aren't busts in that they are that bad, just not what we'd expect from 1st round selections. That’s the definition of a bust. If they were drafted in the 5th/6th round, which is how they are playing, people wouldn’t be up in arms and calling them busts. There’s no such thing as a 5th round bust, just 1st and maybe 2nd round busts. And Edmunds and Oliver fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, realtruelove said: Edmunds is big, slow and can't tackle. Not slow but a slow thinker. I see chicken with a head cut off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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