Albany,n.y. Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) There might be a lot of places for Daboll to go and be a head coaxh Dead Men Walking Adam Gase -Jets Dan Quinn-Falcons Doug Marrone-Jaguars Vic Fangio-Broncos If things don't improve he's gone Matt Patricia-Lions Anthony Lynn-Chargers Bill O'Brien-Texans Mike Zimmer-Vikings Vets who could be one & done Mike McCarthy-Cowboys Ron River-Washington (health reasons) Edited October 5, 2020 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 There are always a lot of HC changes in the NFL year to year. I know Daboll seems to be in the good graces of this board right now, but he is not irreplaceable, if he does leave. We should be able to find lots of replacements who can continue forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Of all you list only the Falcons, Lions, Chargers and Texans have either established or good prospects at QB. Though Ryan and Stafford are getting a bit old. Maybe the Jets if they keep losing. Not sure Daboll has enough cred to justify full control so without that, many of these spots might not work out particularly with the history with the Jets. In hindsight while widely blasted here, McD bringing in the GM worked out fine. Hard to hire a new GM at season ending as teams aren't going to allow anyone on staff to leave prior to draft so your only choices are those who'd been fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: There might be a lot of places for Daboll to go and be a head coaxh Dead Men Walking Adam Gase -Jets Dan Quinn-Falcons Doug Marrone-Jaguars Vic Fangio-Broncos If things don't improve he's gone Matt Patricia-Lions Anthony Lynn-Chargers Bill O'Brien-Texans Mike Zimmer-Vikings Vets who could be one & done Mike McCarthy-Cowboys Ron River-Washington (health reasons) Patricia is going to need a miracle to save his job. I think they're going to keep Fangio another year though. He's legit on the 3rd QB this year, and they're missing casey, bouye, miller, barron, sutton all on IR. I'm not sure how good Buffalo would be doing with Allen, Oliver, White, Diggs, and Milano out for all the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Denver-Fangio survives. Gase/Quinn/BOB/Patricia are guaranteed. Dan Snyder won't fire Rivera, neither will Jerruh fire McCarthy. For cripes sake, they could still win the division! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I don't know if Quinn and Gase make it through the entire year. Marrone was a dead man walking last year and somehow pulled a rabbit out of the hat. I think Fangio gets at least one more because of all the injuries to key players on both sides of the ball. Patricia should definitely be out unless they somehow make the playoffs(not happening). Lynn's team has been competitive with a rookie starting at QB. I think he gets another crack at it in 2021. If they don't fire BOB, he must have pictures of the owner laid up naked with a goat. Zimmer will make it another year, but I don't know about Kubiak. McCarthy will make it as well, but Nolan will be kicking rocks. Only way Rivera is not back is if his health deteriorates, but his prognosis was good initially. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Fortunately, the major dynamic that has changed is the Bills are viewed as an up and coming team, a potential SB contender and a top notch organization coaches would like to work for. I have to believe a lot of very well qualified OCs would be very interested in replacing Daboll, should he snag a HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, H2o said: I don't know if Quinn and Gase make it through the entire year. Marrone was a dead man walking last year and somehow pulled a rabbit out of the hat. I think Fangio gets at least one more because of all the injuries to key players on both sides of the ball. Patricia should definitely be out unless they somehow make the playoffs(not happening). Lynn's team has been competitive with a rookie starting at QB. I think he gets another crack at it in 2021. If they don't fire BOB, he must have pictures of the owner laid up naked with a goat. Zimmer will make it another year, but I don't know about Kubiak. McCarthy will make it as well, but Nolan will be kicking rocks. Only way Rivera is not back is if his health deteriorates, but his prognosis was good initially. Dang - just spewed my Pepsi all over my keyboard! THANKS for the laugh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'm honestly more worried about losing Dan Morgan than Daboll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: There are always a lot of HC changes in the NFL year to year. I know Daboll seems to be in the good graces of this board right now, but he is not irreplaceable, if he does leave. We should be able to find lots of replacements who can continue forward. Completely disagree. The players love him and his incredibly thick playbook. We will be a noticeably different team, very likely no where near as explosive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'm glad Buffalo isn't on that list because new HC's mean new schemes, which often require new personnel. That said, Buffalo has had consistency among their HC and coordinators to instill their scheme. I'm not the biggest Daboll fan, but I believe Josh has grown enough that he could work with a new OC or perhaps an internally promoted candidate. At this point I do believe he can be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, 947 said: I'm honestly more worried about losing Dan Morgan than Daboll. And Joe Schoen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest1981 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Zimmer just signed an extension a couple of months ago and has built up enough goodwill (only losing season happened in his first year in 2014) to withstand a 5-7 win season. Rivera's would be purely health-related and like another poster mentioned, the prognosis was encouraging, at least as of the revelation of his initial diagnosis. Fangio's seat isn't as hot as Patricia's. For one, Fangio was a respectable 7-9 last year in his first year and second of all, he can legitimately cite myriad injuries to prominent players and producers (Von Miller, Courtland Sutton, Drew Lock, Jurell Casey, etc.), plus Elway having no plan for a Lock injury (he didn't want to undermine his confidence by bringing in perceived competition), if/when the Broncos struggle to repeat that. Patricia's in year 3 and has made the team markedly worse, which is reflected in their record. Plus, at least Denver competes defensively, even when half their starters are out, which is Fangio's speciality. Patricia comes from that side of the ball, too, and Detroit is horrific defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Daboll might like Buffalo to much to leave. Comfortable and from the area. Team is on the rise and more money is in the front window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Another Daboll thread. Just what this board needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: There might be a lot of places for Daboll to go and be a head coaxh Dead Men Walking Adam Gase -Jets Dan Quinn-Falcons Doug Marrone-Jaguars Vic Fangio-Broncos If things don't improve he's gone Matt Patricia-Lions Anthony Lynn-Chargers Bill O'Brien-Texans Mike Zimmer-Vikings Vets who could be one & done Mike McCarthy-Cowboys Ron River-Washington (health reasons) Gase and Quinn are likely dead men walking. I don't see Fangio at this point being in trouble because he hasn't really had much to work with. Marrone has actually fielded a competitive team . So he may not be on a hot seat as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I think it would be very harsh to fire Fangio. He is without a LOT of players and onto his 3rd string QB by week 4 I think Patricia is a dead man walking. He is a defensive coach losing because of his defense for 3 years running. He is toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Gase and Quinn are likely dead men walking. I don't see Fangio at this point being in trouble because he hasn't really had much to work with. Marrone has actually fielded a competitive team . So he may not be on a hot seat as of now. The only thing about Gase that gives me pause is he still has 3 years left on the contract after this year and he was responsible for bringing in Joe Douglas. The Jets owners do not like paying coaches to be gone - so although it might cause a total fan riot - if Gase and Joe Douglas have talked about the future - maybe the Johnsons keep them together. Gase stated he was not happy with the Bell signing and Darnold was not his choice - although he was brought in to groom him. Maybe we get lucky and 1 more year of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, H2o said: I don't know if Quinn and Gase make it through the entire year. Marrone was a dead man walking last year and somehow pulled a rabbit out of the hat. I think Fangio gets at least one more because of all the injuries to key players on both sides of the ball. Patricia should definitely be out unless they somehow make the playoffs(not happening). Lynn's team has been competitive with a rookie starting at QB. I think he gets another crack at it in 2021. If they don't fire BOB, he must have pictures of the owner laid up naked with a goat. Zimmer will make it another year, but I don't know about Kubiak. McCarthy will make it as well, but Nolan will be kicking rocks. Only way Rivera is not back is if his health deteriorates, but his prognosis was good initially. Mike Nolan should be fired already. He is the reason Dallas are 1-3. When people talk about minority coaches not getting fair a shake it is because they look at incompetent yesterday men like Mike Nolan getting coordinator jobs because he once gave McCarthy one. Kris Richard was there on the staff and should have got that job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think it would be very harsh to fire Fangio. He is without a LOT of players and onto his 3rd string QB by week 4 I think Patricia is a dead man walking. He is a defensive coach losing because of his defense for 3 years running. He is toast. That's something that kind of annoyed me around the internet during the Jets-Broncos game. People kept talking like the Jets and Broncos were both extremely poorly managed teams but the Broncos actually made a lot of good decisions heading into the year. The Jets wouldn't be much different even if they were healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Daboll will be the next Jets head coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: Mike Nolan should be fired already. He is the reason Dallas are 1-3. When people talk about minority coaches not getting fair a shake it is because they look at incompetent yesterday men like Mike Nolan getting coordinator jobs because he once gave McCarthy one. Kris Richard was there on the staff and should have got that job. I've never seen a team gaining over 500+ yards of total offense on a weekly basis ending up losing 3 out of 4, barely lucking into the one victory they have. It's unheard of. He should absolutely have been fired. Rex and Rob couldn't even eff that defense up this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The Jets owners do not like paying coaches to be gone - so although it might cause a total fan riot - if Gase and Joe Douglas have talked about the future - maybe the Johnsons keep them together. Gase stated he was not happy with the Bell signing and Darnold was not his choice - although he was brought in to groom him. The Jets ownership must be very thankful that their incompetence has been mostly overshadowed for many years by the even worse ownership by the Dolans (Knicks) and Wilpons (Mets). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Imagine how good it would be if the Jets fired Gase at the end of the season and then replaced him with O Brien. I'd actually pay a subscription to get access to the Jets forums if that happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, H2o said: I've never seen a team gaining over 500+ yards of total offense on a weekly basis ending up losing 3 out of 4, barely lucking into the one victory they have. It's unheard of. He should absolutely have been fired. Rex and Rob couldn't even eff that defense up this bad. It is truly atrocious. It is as if he hasn't watched that outdated Ravens defense get Pagano, and Smith, and Lewis and Rex fired in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, RobbRiddick said: Imagine how good it would be if the Jets fired Gase at the end of the season and then replaced him with O Brien. I'd actually pay a subscription to get access to the Jets forums if that happened They do that and they might actually kill that fanbase. I mean it's rough when nothing seems to work but I can't imagine how bad it is when it seems practically purposefully bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It is truly atrocious. It is as if he hasn't watched that outdated Ravens defense get Pagano, and Smith, and Lewis and Rex fired in recent years. They should beat up on a bad Giants team this week, a Giants team that hasn't scored an offensive TD in like 200 offensive plays. Then they have the Cardinals and I'm sure Kingsbury is already licking his chops for that matchup against his Air-Raid type offense. The Cowboys should win at least 2 out of the next 3 as they have the Washington Football Team after AZ. If the defense continues to struggle then Nolan won't make it till November. Edited October 5, 2020 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I hope, as a previous poster mentioned, that Daboll stays with the Bills, as he lives close and the team is on the rise. I can't blame him if he leaves, but I hope to get him 1 more year, so Dorsey can learn a bit more from him. I feel Dorsey will be elevated to OC if Daboll leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think it would be very harsh to fire Fangio. He is without a LOT of players and onto his 3rd string QB by week 4 I think Patricia is a dead man walking. He is a defensive coach losing because of his defense for 3 years running. He is toast. Dan Orlovsky would fire him today:https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ex-detroit-lions-qb-dan-orlovsky-obliterates-matt-patricia-it-s-a-bunch-of-trash/ar-BB19IFXa?ocid=msedgdhp He is unequivocally rejecting Patricia's premise that "there was a lot of work to do." "First of all, we were 11-5 in 2014, and a real good football team," Orlovsky said on ESPN Radio's morning show, "Keyshawn, JWill & Zubin," on Monday. "(In) 2015, we go 7-9, it's because we turn the football over, but the last eight games, we were 7-1, so flipped our season around. The next two years, we were 9-7, and I believe we were playing Green Bay in both years with a chance to win the division. "To come in and say you had a lot work to do is completely false. It's a bunch of trash. Because that wasn't the case in Detroit. We were a good football team. Matthew Stafford was playing as good as he has in his career. That was because of Coach Caldwell. And we were an organization that was ascending, we were building." And Orlovsky wasn't done. "The culture was amazing. The culture was fantastic. So, you had a winning record in three of your four years. The culture was great and your quarterback was playing really good football. "So for (Patricia) to say there was a lot of work to be done is a bunch of trash." Edited October 5, 2020 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Nextmanup said: There are always a lot of HC changes in the NFL year to year. I know Daboll seems to be in the good graces of this board right now, but he is not irreplaceable, if he does leave. We should be able to find lots of replacements who can continue forward. No way Daboll is here next year.. I am hoping that there is a good replacement who can keep the system the same for Josh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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