Buftex Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Bakin said: Funny to watch Libs lying their arses off in this thread. They are positively giddy about Trump having covid. Also, watching them go back and forth over hoax/no hoax is brilliant. When he pulls through (and odds are high he will) will be hilarious to watch their heads positively explode. Of course he will pull through...being exposed as a bigger pile of ***** than ever..and you sychophants will lap it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Buftex said: Of course he will pull through...being exposed as a bigger pile of ***** than ever..and you sychophants will lap it up. 4 years left of your meltdown. It'll be okay. You'll live too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 4 years left of your meltdown. It'll be okay. You'll live too. so what treatment will Trump will be able to show conclusively works to cure symptoms from teh virus 1. zinc & HCQ 2. blood plasma 3. remsvidor 4. other? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, spartacus said: so what treatment will Trump will be able to show conclusively works to cure symptoms from teh virus 1. zinc & HCQ 2. blood plasma 3. remsvidor 4. other? I’d say the best treatment would be the antibodies but that’s also very expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, meazza said: I’d say the best treatment would be the antibodies but that’s also very expensive. Hopefully, he took HQC again- which is the cheapest drug to benefit the most With a reliable treatment, no need for masks or counting cases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, spartacus said: so what treatment will Trump will be able to show conclusively works to cure symptoms from teh virus 1. zinc & HCQ 2. blood plasma 3. remsvidor 4. other? We know he's had remsvidor, melatonin, and zinc. We don't know if he had HCQ (this time, he took a course of it earlier in the year) or plasma yet. I don't even play a doctor on TV so I have no clue what they'll do next, but I'd guess when he comes out of this he'll be touting all of them (and hope over fear). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, meazza said: Did you just assume her gender ? Well, I certainly would. But ‘Cha never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddogblitz Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 35 minutes ago, BillStime said: Does China protect our borders? No of course not. Is it your position that China should be a absolved of all blame since they don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, reddogblitz said: No of course not. Is it your position that China should be a absolved of all blame since they don't? What has Trump done to China since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Which “others”? The ones struggling to survive financially, or the financially entitled unaffected by a shutdown of the economy? Like many others, I received my school tax bills last month. The only mention of COVID was that the town offices was in regard to severely reduced hours of service to take the payment. No deferral option, not payment plan, just “pay the &$@@ing bill.” The way I see that is you pay 100% for roughly 40% of the services. Sincerely sorry for that situation, I can sympathize, but your leader failed lead. The lockdown is necessary to help get a killing disease under control, but when not insisting on clear steps to control ie masks, and then openly defies ( not wearing mask, rallies without masks etc) those needs, the others created the a wave of cases. The continuing duration of this virus has a greater financial effect than what the short term did. All the best to you...lots of bureaucrats in schools, admin etc have no idea of the suffering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 It is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 20 hours ago, Big Blitz said: 1. That breathing escapes your fake protective scarf (why didn't Fauci just say use those instead of his made up "we feared a run masks" excuse.) No one wears them properly. Clarify viral load for us and how it relates to Covid bc if so much isnt escaping your face diaper, then why are we spaced? 2. Space between sick people yes. Asymptomatics may not spread it like they feared in February. The WHO let that slip in June and then back tracked. 3. I know there havent been issues bc they're still open and cases in Virginia are what they are and hospitals are nowhere near capacity. Been 5 months. And no one can accurately say where you contracted it anyway. Its ridiculous . 4. Schools should be full open. As normal. What we're doing to the kids K-8 is child abuse. Masks. Hand sanitizer. That's it. Everything and anything else is creating a miserable life until a vaccine which may never happen. Unsustainable. Teachers are already breaking. And they demand to work from home declaring the job non essential Bye. Retire. Tax payers cant sustain you when they can't work. 1&2. The point is not to simply absorb all your breath. The point is to squash the plume of breath that emanates out from your mouth also blocking the virus laden moisture. Certainly it leaks around and diffuses through but remains close to you instead of projecting out. Hence part of the need for distancing. It's really simple, but you insist on trying to make it impossible to justify your ill-founded views. Again, it's the same reason surgeons wear masks for invasive procedures. 2.+ People can be asymptomatic carriers and non-contagious. That's what they don't like to tell you because of people like you who don't want to be bothered with simple protection procedures . Ohio Department of Health considers someone contagious 48 hours before symptoms begin but the rule is to quarantine 14 days as symptoms can take that long to appear. Do the math. 3. I work out at my own gym mask free. They're not going to tell me about infections unless it becomes a super spreader location. My brother has Covid. He caught it from his girlfriend who caught it from her mom who caught it from her friend who stopped by for a few minutes to drop something off. Trail of contact and positive tests. Not difficult at all, most times, so you're dead wrong about that. 4. My schools are open and the teachers I talked to greatly prefer classroom to online. Kids are playing sports and masks, distancing and hand sanitizer are working nicely since the first of September. We've had two separate cases in different buildings but thanks to the protections and efforts they haven't spread. Almost a miracle given how school is always a breeding ground for germs. Masks, distancing, and sanitizer work. Not foolproof, but they simply work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: Choose your sources wisely: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons There's even more information in that Wikipedia article. It's a political group, not a medical group. Notably that link only lists one study that has anything to do with mask effectiveness with regards to covid-19. Most of its linked studies are talking about the flu or the cold or other respiratory illnesses. You should ask yourself why a purported medical group is using baldfaced disinformation strategies like that. Let's take a look at the one study they do link. It was a study of exactly 4 patients in South Korea: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342 So it turns out the study wasn't testing if masks prevent the spread of covid-19. It was testing how many air droplet particles end up on the outside of the mask if a person coughs while wearing one. Here's the study's own conclusion: But wait, there's more! https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-0745 This is a really good example of why you need to be careful with scientific sourcing. Here we have a conservative political group pushing studies that either have nothing to do with the subject in question or have been retracted. There are despicable people out whose entire career is spent trying to trick uninformed people into believing junk science. Don't let them con you. Here's an actual scientific meta-analysis that combined the results of many separate tests to show masks ARE effective in reducing the spread of covid-19. https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=27691&publicId=395 Here's another one: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext And another one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302301?via%3Dihub#bib6 Note that the above study makes a clear distinction between influenza, SARS, and covid-19, and specifically shows that masks are especially effective with controlling the spread of covid-19. Why do you think the link you posted threw a bunch of different illnesses into a blender? Could it be they have an agenda? The science is proven on this - large scale usage of masks substantially reduces the risk of spreading covid-19. It isn't a perfect method and certain types of masks have better results, but across the board it has been shown to be an effective method. You should be skeptical of any source trying to convince you otherwise, not just on this matter but on anything else they are telling you. hey Happy Days. hope you and yours are well with this madness that has descended upon humanity. thank you for the fact check, appreciated as i had not done that. my apologies for not doing so, however in my defense (not that that is an acceptable defense though), time is in short supply these days. am hoping that i will be as prepped as i can be shortly here, just prior to the election and have more time available after that. having read through the thread to catch up, i would counter... as @3rdnlng pointed out, Wiki is not the best source for debunking for starters. though your other sources are duly noted. and as @Buffalo_Gal has posted, there are a number of articles related to studies out that claim masks are not the preventative that the MSM narrative would have you believe. this belief comes from reading/researching over these past 6 months in my limited available time. and while i probably can't source those articles for you at the present time, the gist of it boils down to particle size. unless you are wearing a N95 or greater, the efficacy of other masks is questionable at best. to be clear here, yes i wear a mask (N95, btw) when out in public. however, i do so more for the comfort of others i also believe that there are natural remedies that can contain this virus better than anything the MSM narrative would have you believe. and this is only what i believe, not to be taken as medical advise but of which, maintaining bodily levels of Vitamin D at a level of 47 ng/ml renders your susceptibility to nil. 3 hours ago, shoshin said: I'm not sold on masks, though I wear one indoors in public settings, but maybe we can stick to more credible medical organizations than AAPS. agreed. Edited October 3, 2020 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. Of course it is, gravedancer. Wearing a neck gaiter may be worse than no mask at all, researchers find Duke study finds some cotton cloth masks are about as effective as surgical masks, while thin polyester spandex gaiters may be worse than going maskless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: Sincerely sorry for that situation, I can sympathize, but your leader failed lead. The lockdown is necessary to help get a killing disease under control, but when not insisting on clear steps to control ie masks, and then openly defies ( not wearing mask, rallies without masks etc) those needs, the others created the a wave of cases. The continuing duration of this virus has a greater financial effect than what the short term did. All the best to you...lots of bureaucrats in schools, admin etc have no idea of the suffering I reject your sympathy as unnecessary, shallow and pedantic. I simply asked who the “others” were. 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Awesome. Thanks for sharing BG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: We all know that this was recorded by a clone. In reality trump is on his deathbed as jim acosta would tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I can't stay locked upstairs in the White House.....but isn't he now just locked up in a hospital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Don’t let the media fool you - Donald is doing laps in the Walter Reed pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 “Ninety percent of the [White House] complex most certainly learned about it in the news, as has been the case ever since,” the senior official said. “There are reports that COVID is spreading like wildfire through the White House. There are hundreds and hundreds of people who work on-complex, some who have families with high-risk family members. Since this whole thing started, not one email has gone out to tell employees what to do or what’s going on.” The senior official told Intelligencer that not only is there no reliable information flow internally regarding the president’s condition, but there’s also no reliable information about anything else. Even his most senior staffers find themselves in the same predicament as those on the outside looking in. An opaque system designed to protect the White House from negative press is backfiring. “I think most of it is paranoia about leaks,” the official said, “Yet … the leaks continue.” https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/white-house-spreads-covid-19-and-lies-about-trumps-health.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I reject your sympathy as unnecessary, shallow and pedantic. I simply asked who the “others” were. Awesome. Thanks for sharing BG. Sorry for saying I understood your anger. You don't need by sympathy that is ok with me. You knew who the others were, you were just being an ash. Enjoy your anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoTier Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, shoshin said: That says he deserves it even more. That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it but it doesn't change mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Rob's House said: Still waiting for some evidence of Miller's "white supremacy." A Stephen Miller apologist?! Wow, there's like only two of you out there. Incredibly rare. I'd point you to anecdoctes from his relatives and his entire high school. Ex-Breitbart editor comments, leaked emails that were released, the substance of Trump's domestic policy speeches, etc. I just googled "Is Stephen Miller a white supremacist?" and unfortunately don't have the next six hours free to wade through all of the evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Sorry for saying I understood your anger. You don't need by sympathy that is ok with me. You knew who the others were, you were just being an ash. Enjoy your anger. Nope, I can’t do it. I cannot accept a second apology when I have already rejected the first. I ask that you cease and desist any further mention of apologies or sympathy in any form. I can’t have it. I sincerely wanted to know who you were referencing “others”. I am sorry if that was was not clear—and don’t even think about rejecting my apology. I will not take it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Buftex said: Of course he will pull through...being exposed as a bigger pile of ***** than ever..and you sychophants will lap it up. I know it will disappoint you if he were to pull through. We know this. Supreme Court confirmation next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Buftex said: Of course he will pull through...being exposed as a bigger pile of ***** than ever..and you sychophants will lap it up. How? Please explain how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Mollie Hemingway has a few threads on people gathering to show Trump support today: 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Trump Virus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 20 hours ago, Putin said: Yes you can call it what ever you want and then crawl back under your rock Ok Putin! 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Tonight's update is a major improvement in specificity, and it is encouraging for the President. It's really not too much to ask for. I hope the White House is starting to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Trump Virus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Mollie Hemingway has a few threads on people gathering to show Trump support today: I am there as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Trump Virus said: I am there as well. Ok, that is funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Popped into the ppp sewer to see the idiots all gleeful, guess the libtards have won and this is their board now. rip 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Nope, I can’t do it. I cannot accept a second apology when I have already rejected the first. I ask that you cease and desist any further mention of apologies or sympathy in any form. I can’t have it. I sincerely wanted to know who you were referencing “others”. I am sorry if that was was not clear—and don’t even think about rejecting my apology. I will not take it back. Other = 208,000 dead Millions who lost loved ones, Staff who were required to be macho All those who suffered through Covid as a result of being infected during events when masks not used All the people who lost work when they were ill or their loved ones needed care All the front line workers who suffered, missed there families when being working hundreds of hours in danger and could not go home Etc etc. His terrible leadership, lack of consistency in his message, his defiance of professional medical advice, his mocking of others etc etc caused prolonging and excessive suffering with this virus. Sorry I was not more clear. Oops sorry I did not mean to re-apologize, oh FI, I did mean it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Albwan said: Popped into the ppp sewer to see the idiots all gleeful, guess the libtards have won and this is their board now. rip Get used to it! It'll help you on November 4. Seriously: maybe the arguments will be more focused, more spirited, if they involve two sides living in the real world rather than the world of dark conspiracy theories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Incompetency 360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Other = 208,000 dead Millions who lost loved ones, Staff who were required to be macho All those who suffered through Covid as a result of being infected during events when masks not used All the people who lost work when they were ill or their loved ones needed care All the front line workers who suffered, missed there families when being working hundreds of hours in danger and could not go home Etc etc. His terrible leadership, lack of consistency in his message, his defiance of professional medical advice, his mocking of others etc etc caused prolonging and excessive suffering with this virus. Sorry I was not more clear. Oops sorry I did not mean to re-apologize, oh FI, I did mean it! I’ll accept this one, it keeps it fresh. How many people should have died, if any, as a result of COVID-19? How many infections and deaths (Of the 208,000 cited) occurred as a result of continuous and sustained protesting across the country? You’ve mentioned leadership several times exclusively as it relates to DJT. We’re any other politicians complicit in the death count? Finally, do you agree with the estimate that COVID deaths may be inflated by as much as 25%, and if not, what would you project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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