Augie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dwight in philly said: WOW .. Arrest law abiding citizens for trying to attend a football game ! better off going out and loot a store and score some sneakers unreal Well now, they would NOT be law abiding at that point, would they? Arrest ALL those who break the law. That’s how it works. . Edited September 11, 2020 by Augie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 They want to get the message out there, not to try to go to the stadium, for lots of obvious reasons. And they know a certain segment of society is so f-ing stupid they will try to if they aren't scared beforehand. It's perfectly reasonable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 The cemetery people, that should be your destination... I mentioned it above. Can they stop you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, T&C said: The cemetery people, that should be your destination... I mentioned it above. Can they stop you? Where is the cemetery "out back" ??? I'm looking at the google satellite view of the stadium now. Can't find it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, boater said: Orchard Park has threatened (against the law) legal action against private lots. If OP privates lots were your Plan A, I hope you have a Plan B. I’d venture they have some control over businesses in their jurisdiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, T&C said: The cemetery people, that should be your destination... I mentioned it above. Can they stop you? I honestly don’t know. We have family buried in private and gated property. We can never be refused and don’t have to pay the fee to get in. I’d suggest the better question is: should they have to stop you. I say the answer is no reasonable person should have to be stopped. They should be wherever they can see the game and have a great experience doing so. A cemetery or private parking lot don’t make that cut, IMO. I don’t AGREE with zero fans, but it’s stupid to violate the rules and create problems when it’s easier to just avoid them. If you go, you deserve what you get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Well now, they would NOT be law abiding at that point. Arrest ALL those who break the law. That’s how it works. strange how many people saying they want to still show up are the first to say “play stupid games” or “he should’ve listened to the police” in other threads 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I mean, it IS technically private property? Right? Or no since the county owns it? Publicly owned does not mean public access. Besides, the Bills lease it. Edited September 11, 2020 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, FLFan said: Most people do not need signs to tell them that they have no buisness on private property when not invited. It would seem pretty obvious to me that when the the policy is no fans are allowed at the game, and no tickets are distributed, people should stay home. Apparently that is a controversial concept for some. dont assume anything is controversial because a simple question was asked. This goes beyond no fans allowed on stadium grounds. they are closing Abott Rd as well. Try not to limit questions being asked, whether they be deemed stoopid or not. without question, how are people supposed to know, understand, or rightfully debate? If they were hosting the Oscars, all would be well, amiright? They didnt even shut down streets in NYC for that event. seems odd to me. but I digress. It was simply a question I asked for the sake of being educated, not a political stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, dwight in philly said: WOW .. Arrest law abiding citizens for trying to attend a football game ! better off going out and loot a store and score some sneakers unreal If you go try to drink on private property, you're not "law abiding", you're breaking TWO laws. Grow up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 It’s amazing how people are arguing basic laws and regulations no one is allowed at the game. if you want to test the laws you deserve what you get. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 You'd think this far into 2020, people would be exhausted with the whole "outraged" thing. Guess not. Just follow the rules. It's not a hard concept. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Logic said: If you go try to drink on private property, you're not "law abiding", you're breaking TWO laws. Grow up. if you are invited, is that still breaking the law? 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: It’s amazing how people are arguing basic laws and regulations no one is allowed at the game. if you want to test the laws you deserve what you get. what if it's a "peaceful protest"? Is there a distinction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Wait, are we for or against the police? I can’t keep up... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, SWATeam said: Wait, are we for or against the police? I can’t keep up... For, as long as they’re enforcing rules made by politicians that we support (with no clear guidance on when they’ll be relaxed or lifted, at that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: It’s amazing how people are arguing basic laws and regulations no one is allowed at the game. if you want to test the laws you deserve what you get. We agree! 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) It’s NY...saying you’ll be arrested sounds bad but it’s just an appearance ticket. Not like you’ll actually go to jail. You could just play ignorant and pretend you didn’t know in which case you’ll probably be warned and told to leave. Edited September 11, 2020 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: if you are invited, is that still breaking the law? what if it's a "peaceful protest"? Is there a distinction? Were you invited? As to your second question: If the peaceful protest breaks no laws, i.e. walking down the street carrying a sign and chanting a slogan, then yes, there's a difference between that and trespassing on private property and drinking in public. Additionally, the fact that you equate protests for social justice as being the same in level of importance and legality as drinking outside a football stadium (on private property) makes you look silly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Don't be an idiot and give the police more grief. They've had their fair share from the protests already. Stay home or go support your local watering hole. They could use the support thanks to Generalissimo Cuomo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) NIP IT IN THE BUD, Edited September 12, 2020 by HOUSE 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Were you invited? As to your second question: If the peaceful protest breaks no laws, i.e. walking down the street carrying a sign and chanting a slogan, then yes, there's a difference between that and trespassing on private property and drinking in public. Additionally, the fact that you equate protests for social justice as being the same in level of importance and legality as drinking outside a football stadium (on private property) makes you look silly. I didn't equate anything, Logic. Nor did I imply that I did. I asked a question and everyone wants to assume that I'm politicizing a valid point. If people don't understand that very basic difference, and wish to classify anyone who dare ask an alternative question based on the grounds of "social justice", then THAT is the exact reason we are so divided. and that, Sir, makes YOU look silly. jmo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 dumb af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: if you are invited, is that still breaking the law? what if it's a "peaceful protest"? Is there a distinction? I heard they are going to get that couple from St Louis to guard the stadium with their guns. Keep yer distance rebels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The irony in this thread is hilarious! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Where is the cemetery "out back" ??? I'm looking at the google satellite view of the stadium now. Can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, WotAGuy said: I heard they are going to get that couple from St Louis to guard the stadium with their guns. Keep yer distance rebels. they had every right under the law to act the way they did. I won't be violating any laws so I'm pleased to accept their brand of justice. I'm no rebel. I'm the vast majority of law abiding citizens protected by the constitution of the United States of America. 🇺🇸 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Look, I’m NOT for anyone showing up and creating unnecessary difficulties, but, hypothetically, if someone DID show up....security might be lighter than usual.....and you just might be able to sneak in and get near wherever that train horn originates from.....and possible permanently disable that ******, there just might be some free beverages in it for you down the road. Hypothetically, of course..... You could possibly drink free for the rest of your life, hypothetically....... 🤷♂️ 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: Look, I’m NOT for anyone showing up and creating unnecessary difficulties, but, hypothetically, if someone DID show up....security might be lighter than usual.....and you just might be able to sneak in and get near wherever that train horn originates from.....and possible permanently disable that ******, there just might be some free beverages in it for you down the road. Hypothetically, of course..... You could possibly drink free for the rest of your life, hypothetically....... 🤷♂️ very valid point lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: closing Abott Rd? Wow Cuomo Im assuming you are just assuming it's cuomo? He isnt the only person in charge in nys fwiw Edited September 11, 2020 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Due to Cuomo’s bail reform, they likely cannot take you to jail. This would be a catch and release program 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Could you possibly ever believe the title of this thread was something you would ever imagine even in your craziest dreams a year ago? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, gobills1212 said: Im assuming you are just assuming it's cuomo? He isnt the only person in charge in nys fwiw I'm aware. but if we're being honest, it starts from the top down, right? In every aspect of this country. 1 minute ago, bmur66 said: Could you possibly ever believe the title of this thread was something you would ever imagine even in your craziest dreams a year ago? NO! I'm too old to wish time away, but 2020 can go ***** itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, bmur66 said: Could you possibly ever believe the title of this thread was something you would ever imagine even in your craziest dreams a year ago? well, I’m told that these are unprecedented times, and there is a curve to be flattened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, RiotAct said: For, as long as they’re enforcing rules made by politicians that we support (with no clear guidance on when they’ll be relaxed or lifted, at that). lol that we support. you abide by the laws in the state you are in if you want to argue politics take it to the PPP please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I'm aware. but if we're being honest, it starts from the top down, right? In every aspect of this country. I dunno, im no cuomo fan but was impressed w how he handled this as opposed to 'the top' and now when people get on cuomo for something they dont like I just stopped to wonder if the dude is really as bad as people say or if f-cuomo is more of a catch all. This seems pretty simple. Im as big of a Bills fan as it gets but honestly Im not sure why anyone wld want to mess w this and put themselves in a potentially dangerous situation. On the flip side, i can get dangerous and break a law or two w the best of them (much to my wifes dismay) BUT, this just seems pretty justified and self explanatory...imo of course Edited September 12, 2020 by gobills1212 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, gobills1212 said: I dunno, im no cuomo fan but was impressed w how he handled this as opposed to 'the top' and now when people get on cuomo for something they dont like I just stopped to wonder if the dude is really as bad as people say or if f-cuomo is more of a catch all he put covid positve people into nursing homes. he had no medical stockpiles. NYC and NY state was taken care of in asctimely a fashion as possible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: lol that we support. you abide by the laws in the state you are in if you want to argue politics take it to the PPP please just making a general observation and stating a fact that I found interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, BuffAlone said: he put covid positve people into nursing homes. he had no medical stockpiles. NYC and NY state was taken care of in asctimely a fashion as possible I mean... did anyone REALLY have stock piles? Regardless, this prob isnt the time or place so for the 1st time ever on here ill just say agree to disagree. Besides, we have bills football to talk about! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, gobills1212 said: I mean... did anyone REALLY have stock piles? Regardless, this prob isnt the time or place so for the 1st time ever on here ill just say agree to disagree. Besides, we have bills football to talk about! I'm with ya! Go Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: lol that we support. you abide by the laws in the state you are in if you want to argue politics take it to the PPP please #notamod 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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