Tesla03 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) We are perfectly fine on defense. invested tons of money and effort into improving the defense in the last 2 years. Next year is all about Josh Allen. We need to do whatever we can in this draft to help him develop. nothing else really matters right now. if that means getting him another WR threat, or backup RB to take the pressure off, or even a OL guy so he isn't running for his life every time the opponent sends an extra man. we had a SB contending defense last season and what happened? we got bounced in the 1st round because we couldn't score a single point in the 2nd half other than the game tying field goal, and couldn't score in OT. Edited April 24, 2020 by Tesla03 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you but the D should have hung onto a 16 point lead and stopped that 3rd and forever conversion late.. Just pick a good player.. they aren’t picking Julio Jones at 54... 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) I’m all for adding talent anywhere on the roster but if Allen can’t succeed with what we currently have then he’s not the guy we hope he is. Edited April 24, 2020 by Bangarang 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 They did help him. They used their 1st pick and more to get him Stefon Diggs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) I get what you are saying, however if a round 1 edge rusher is available and we can get a RB and WR later, I could argue that the pressure from the edge could also help him more than a WR4 Edited April 24, 2020 by rayray808 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’m all for adding talent anywhere on the roster but if Allen can’t succeed with what we currently have then he’s not the guy we hope he is. One could ask why did Andy Reid just draft a 1st round running back to help Mahomes and one of the best offenses in the league? 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Completely agree. A young qbs 3rd year is vital. He absolutely cannot take even a small step backwards and Beane has to do everything imaginable to ensure boosting this offense. The Diggs trade will be amazing but there are still some pieces that need to be finished. Devin will require a stud RB2. Knox will need a TE2 better than the mediocre 4 of Kroft, Croom, Sweeney and Lee "hot mess" Smith. Brown & Beasley are quickly approaching 30. We must pick a wr by 86. Maybe we can land at least 2 of these 3 needs. But if we didn't pick up even one more defensive player, WE'D STILL HAVE A TOP 5 DEFENSE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Completely agree. A young qbs 3rd year is vital. He absolutely cannot take even a small step backwards and Beane has to do everything imaginable to ensure boosting this offense. The Diggs trade will be amazing but there are still some pieces that need to be finished. Devin will require a stud RB2. Knox will need a TE2 better than the mediocre 4 of Kroft, Croom, Sweeney and Lee "hot mess" Smith. Brown & Beasley are quickly approaching 30. We must pick a wr by 86. Maybe we can land at least 2 of these 3 needs. But if we didn't pick up even one more defensive player, WE'D STILL HAVE A TOP 5 DEFENSE! So who will be the RB, WR and TE they should take and at what draft position? Whilst I would be happy if they drafted the right WR tomorrow, I don’t necessarily buy the argument that they need to because Beasley and Brown are 29... both can be replaced in FA after this year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Everything helps Allen. Defense helps Allen. Allen needs to help Allen. Bills have done everything for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Should be able to get quality RB/WR at 54. McD can scheme up a great defense with average players but we have to score more to beat Mahomes and KC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So who will be the RB, WR and TE they should take and at what draft position? Whilst I would be happy if they drafted the right WR tomorrow, I don’t necessarily buy the argument that they need to because Beasley and Brown are 29... both can be replaced in FA after this year.. Just for accuracy sake, Brown is 30 and Beasley is 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Just for accuracy sake, Brown is 30 and Beasley is 31. Ok.. I was responding to the comment “approaching 30”... still think my comment stands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Ok.. I was responding to the comment “approaching 30”... still think my comment stands... Like I said "for accuracy". Personally I want to see a WR drafted preferably one that can handle punts and kick returns making Roberts ST slot expendable. But that's my wish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: One could ask why did Andy Reid just draft a 1st round running back to help Mahomes and one of the best offenses in the league? Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I don’t have a problem with adding more weapons on offense, in fact I’m all for it. What I’m saying is that there is currently enough talent on offense that would allow Allen to prove he’s a franchise QB. There are no real glaring holes that should holding him back like years past. Edited April 24, 2020 by Bangarang 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I don’t have a problem with adding more weapons on offense, in fact I’m all for it. What I’m saying is that there is currently enough talent on offense that would allow Allen to prove he’s a franchise QB. There are no real glaring holes that should holding him back like years past. I think we could have a problem if Singletary got injured. Which is why RB looks like a good value choice to me. If everyone stays healthy on Offense, we should be good to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGeneral Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Allen doesn't have the talent alone to make year 3 better than last year. He needs more help on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Everything helps Allen. Defense helps Allen. Allen needs to help Allen. Bills have done everything for him. Last season they had a 36 year old running back out there for 370 plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tesla03 said: We are perfectly fine on defense. invested tons of money and effort into improving the defense in the last 2 years. Next year is all about Josh Allen. We need to do whatever we can in this draft to help him develop. nothing else really matters right now. if that means getting him another WR threat, or backup RB to take the pressure off, or even a OL guy so he isn't running for his life every time the opponent sends an extra man. we had a SB contending defense last season and what happened? we got bounced in the 1st round because we couldn't score a single point in the 2nd half other than the game tying field goal, and couldn't score in OT. It's all about the team. Everything else matters, now and always. You don't draft for this year. If you do, you're not doing it right. Needs for this year are filled in FA and trades. Diggs fills the primary need. Most of the rest of the offensive improvement will come down to how much better Josh got. BPA, at positions of relative need, which is most of them, but not all. 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: One could ask why did Andy Reid just draft a 1st round running back to help Mahomes and one of the best offenses in the league? One could answer because Reid may have thought that RB was the BPA at a position of relative need. Edited April 24, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I'd say keeping your family safe during a pandemic but it's definitely a close second. The trade for Diggs helped him more than any draft pick could. Trading for Trent Williams would pry be the biggest help but short of that adding a WR/TE/RB in the 2nd round should help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I don’t have a problem with adding more weapons on offense, in fact I’m all for it. What I’m saying is that there is currently enough talent on offense that would allow Allen to prove he’s a franchise QB. There are no real glaring holes that should holding him back like years past. Disagree. If Knox and Ford don't improve then we have pretty serious holes at RT and TE. Ford especially needs to be much, much better. Knox's highlight film plays don't offset the drops though I am optimistic that his drops are a thing of the past. I also think we need a RB who excels inside the tackles and in short yardage situations. We essentially filled the short yardage role with our QB last year and I don't think that is a good idea in terms of keeping our QB healthy. As for Josh proving he is a franchise QB. I think he already has. He can be better, sure but he more or less carried that offense last year and got us in to the playoffs with two games to spare in only his second year. Seriously, if all he does next year is the same thing, playoffs with two games to spare, are we ditching him and looking for another QB next year? Dumping a QB who gets you to the playoffs 2 out of his first 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Tesla03 said: We are perfectly fine on defense. invested tons of money and effort into improving the defense in the last 2 years. Next year is all about Josh Allen. We need to do whatever we can in this draft to help him develop. nothing else really matters right now. if that means getting him another WR threat, or backup RB to take the pressure off, or even a OL guy so he isn't running for his life every time the opponent sends an extra man. we had a SB contending defense last season and what happened? we got bounced in the 1st round because we couldn't score a single point in the 2nd half other than the game tying field goal, and couldn't score in OT. That’s it? Stop by, drop trou, relieve yourself and move on? Thats not how it’s done around here. You wanna make a turd-stirring thread, you stick around and handle the onslaught. You have 2 hours to return to the scene of this crime or it gets flushed. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 We’re taking Kyle Dugger. Just accept it now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tesla03 said: We are perfectly fine on defense. invested tons of money and effort into improving the defense in the last 2 years. Next year is all about Josh Allen. We need to do whatever we can in this draft to help him develop. nothing else really matters right now. if that means getting him another WR threat, or backup RB to take the pressure off, or even a OL guy so he isn't running for his life every time the opponent sends an extra man. we had a SB contending defense last season and what happened? we got bounced in the 1st round because we couldn't score a single point in the 2nd half other than the game tying field goal, and couldn't score in OT. We just used a 1st round pick and more to get Allen ( IMO ) a top 10 WR . Now with the 2nd round pick if we can get a starter on defense or at least someone who will get 50% of snaps , or a 4th WR who will probably be on ST and few plays here and there , I think it’s a no brainer !!! GOOO BILLS !!!!! Edited April 24, 2020 by Putin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I want to draft all offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: We’re taking Kyle Dugger. Just accept it now lol. Curtis Weaver DE !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Completely agree. A young qbs 3rd year is vital. He absolutely cannot take even a small step backwards and Beane has to do everything imaginable to ensure boosting this offense. The Diggs trade will be amazing but there are still some pieces that need to be finished. Devin will require a stud RB2. Knox will need a TE2 better than the mediocre 4 of Kroft, Croom, Sweeney and Lee "hot mess" Smith. Brown & Beasley are quickly approaching 30. We must pick a wr by 86. Maybe we can land at least 2 of these 3 needs. But if we didn't pick up even one more defensive player, WE'D STILL HAVE A TOP 5 DEFENSE! Agree that this is a big year for Allen. Year 3 is usually when QB's "get it". The problem is this wont be a normal offseason. Most likely no OTA's, mini-camp, rookie camp. With practice time reduced I hope this won't hurt JA going into year 3. All of these draft picks will have a tough time get ready and making meaningful contributions for their teams at the start. Good thing the Bills roster is set so whoever we draft can be eased into the season as opposed to say the Bengals Burrow. He plays the hardest position and is already the face of their franchise. Good luck in learning the offense (systems, schemes) developing chemistry with your teammates with very little practice time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Along the lines of Doc's earlier suggestion, will a 'GoFundMe' account help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: They did help him. They used their 1st pick and more to get him Stefon Diggs. By Beane saying “we need to score more points” I would like to think that would amount to more than one (1) additional scoring option for the offense, as constructed presently the offense could stand one or two more scoring options. If indeed “scoring more points” is a goal for the team, jmo. Go Bills!!! Edited April 24, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Do you ever notice how teams like Baltimore sit there in the 20s every draft, and watch highly rated players (this year it was linebacker Patrick Queen) just fall into their laps? The reason why? Because they usually go into the draft without any glaring needs. I've been waiting SO LONG for the Bills to reach this point. Where they aren't forced to target a WR or a CB or an OT, and they can just let the talent drop to them. There are places on the roster that could use better depth, but nothing glaring that we need to freak-out if they go somewhere else. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: By Beane saying “we need to score more points” I would like to think would amount to more than one (1) additional scoring option for the offense, as constructed presently the offense could stand one or two more scoring options. If indeed “scoring more points” is a goal for the team, jmo. Go Bills!!! Would love to see them add another playmaker on offense to go along with Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Singletary. Beane really has done a good job in getting help for Allen. I would expect that continues tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, Greg S said: Would love to see them add another playmaker on offense to go along with Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Singletary. Beane really has done a good job in getting help for Allen. I would expect that continues tonight. Agree, ? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Is it really more important to help Allen than it is to improve the team? There is a huge case to be made that getting a good future DE is more important overall than the short term boost of getting an RB/WR. If you give the new DC his choice at 54 and tell him his budget for 2021 is 10 million less, it is on him to find one that will replace either Hughes/Addison or Murphy. The new DC Washington has a choice of T Lewis/Uche/Weaver. Good luck to him. Pick up the RB with the round 3 or preferably move up from round 4. Get another good one like Singletary. If they play it too tight and miss, give out a 6th and pay Fournette 4 mill for a year or pick up Hyde/Freeman. None of those guys are 10 million dollar assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 A good edge rusher sure would help the offence get on the field more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I don’t have a problem with adding more weapons on offense, in fact I’m all for it. What I’m saying is that there is currently enough talent on offense that would allow Allen to prove he’s a franchise QB. There are no real glaring holes that should holding him back like years past. I would agree that there are no glaring holes but the O line does need some love. I believe RB can be addressed in late rounds or with a free agent. 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: We’re taking Kyle Dugger. Just accept it now lol. Would not be a bad pick in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 We have an established protocol here for starting threads. You start it, you stay with it. #Failure 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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