Cowboys sign Aldon Smith

[Kirby Jackson]

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. 
 

This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.

[Doc Brown]

You're shocked?  Jerry Jones signed Greg Hardy despite him beating the hell out of his girlfriend.  This move screams of desperation to me and I can't wait for this team to fail again.

[H2o]

Has he even been reinstated yet? I guess Smith and Gregory will be best of friends almost immediately. 

[JoPoy88]

28 minutes ago, H2o said:

Has he even been reinstated yet? I guess Smith and Gregory will be best of friends almost immediately. 

it doesn’t appear so. I believe the deal is contingent on that reinstatement.

[Rc2catch]

I suggested this in the thread not that long ago that buffalo should kick his tires. 
He’s a meathead but he fits that pass rusher we all desperately wanted/needed on a cheap prove it deal. 
Be interesting to see if they let him play again and if he has anything left after being out so long 

[JoPoy88]

10 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I suggested this in the thread not that long ago that buffalo should kick his tires. 
He’s a meathead but he fits that pass rusher we all desperately wanted/needed on a cheap prove it deal. 
Be interesting to see if they let him play again and if he has anything left after being out so long 

 He would have to stay out of trouble for longer than 10 whole months for me to be on board with that.

[QCity]

Jerry's ego loves to take on these types of players. I completely forgot about this guy, but when his head was on straight, he was an absolute f$%ing beast.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. 
 

This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.

 

It was in the locked Jay Glazer thread from last night.

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

You're shocked?  Jerry Jones signed Greg Hardy despite him beating the hell out of his girlfriend.  This move screams of desperation to me and I can't wait for this team to fail again.

He wasn’t out of the league for 5 years at the time. 

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. 
 

This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.

Wow!  He has not played since 2015?!  I actually had to look up his list of offenses, which is a laundry list of DUIs and DV incidents - including some as recent as 2019.   I don’t see how he gets reinstated to play, but it is a very Cowboys move to bring him in. 

[Beast]

Yep, Jerry is desperate. Not to sound morbid but he wants another SB before his dirt nap.

 

Then again, we all want just one before ours.

Edited April 2, 2020 by Binghamton Beast

[IgotBILLStopay]

Why are we surprised? We have been on both sides with Richie Incognito. Richie has now done well with the Raiders. It would be such a wonderful story if Aldon Smith is able to put his life together. I understand the caution, but I am rooting for him to succeed. What a massive talent he was / is? I remember during the 2012 Super Bowl, people were saying he should have gone higher in the draft (and he had gone #7!!). That was how hood he was.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

If the nfl really cared about cleaning up the league (they don’t), they would hold teams accountable and penalize them for repeating signing scumbags. Plastic face loves signings scumbags and he doesn’t suffer for it.  If his team got penalized a draft pick when one of these scumbags does it again, he would think twice about it.

 

but the nfl has some huge double standards.  Beat women ok. Silently take a knee ?.

Edited April 2, 2020 by C.Biscuit97

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If the nfl really cared about cleaning up the league (they don’t), they would hold teams accountable and penalize them for repeating signing scumbags. Plastic face loves signings scumbags and he doesn’t suffer for it.  If his team got penalized a draft pick when one of these scumbags does it again, he would think twice about it.

 

but the nfl has some huge double standards.  Beat women ok. Silently take a knee ?.

 

That's not just the NFL, but sadly fans too. Plenty here even.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Reminds me of a number of years ago when Lawrence Phillips made a comeback After a few years off. I think the bills were close to Signing him; he ended up with the niners and was a shell of his old self. 

 

sadly, he ended up back in jail, killed his cell mate, and then committee suicide. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

3 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

I suggested this in the thread not that long ago that buffalo should kick his tires. 
He’s a meathead but he fits that pass rusher we all desperately wanted/needed on a cheap prove it deal. 
Be interesting to see if they let him play again and if he has anything left after being out so long 

Nah, cause a lot of problems while on the raiders. You know damn well if you can’t make it on the Raiders or Browns, then  Your career is pretty much done Lol. I wish him the best nonetheless 

1 hour ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Reminds me of a number of years ago when Lawrence Phillips made a comeback After a few years off. I think the bills were close to Signing him; he ended up with the niners and was a shell of his old self. 

 

sadly, he ended up back in jail, killed his cell mate, and then committee suicide. 

If I remember correctly he played in Miami and was a bust there. Talk about a tragic life

2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Why are we surprised? We have been on both sides with Richie Incognito. Richie has now done well with the Raiders. It would be such a wonderful story if Aldon Smith is able to put his life together. I understand the caution, but I am rooting for him to succeed. What a massive talent he was / is? I remember during the 2012 Super Bowl, people were saying he should have gone higher in the draft (and he had gone #7!!). That was how hood he was.

 

I think incognito is one concussion away from ending up completely brain dead. He still thinks he hears voices in his head. I was happy when we cut him loose. He was out of control

Edited April 2, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998

[billsfan89]

Weird signing, not sure he was ever reinstated. 

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If the nfl really cared about cleaning up the league (they don’t), they would hold teams accountable and penalize them for repeating signing scumbags. Plastic face loves signings scumbags and he doesn’t suffer for it.  If his team got penalized a draft pick when one of these scumbags does it again, he would think twice about it.

 

but the nfl has some huge double standards.  Beat women ok. Silently take a knee ?.

 

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's not just the NFL, but sadly fans too. Plenty here even.

Forgot when someone was out of the league for 5 years for taking a knee. But cool posts!

[Jauronimo]

57 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

Forgot when someone was out of the league for 5 years for taking a knee. But cool posts!

Do you remember when someone was out of the league for 3 years for taking a knee?

 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

Do you remember when someone was out of the league for 3 years for taking a knee?

 

No. But even so, if that means you draw the conclusion, “beating women = ok,” well then.

[TuelTime]

8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. 
 

This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.

 

Gordon smoked weed. He wasn't a danger to anyone. At all. In my opinion, he should get some type of reparations for all of the money in his contracts that he didn't receive due to his suspensions.

[BillsMafia13]

6 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If the nfl really cared about cleaning up the league (they don’t), they would hold teams accountable and penalize them for repeating signing scumbags. Plastic face loves signings scumbags and he doesn’t suffer for it.  If his team got penalized a draft pick when one of these scumbags does it again, he would think twice about it.

 

but the nfl has some huge double standards.  Beat women ok. Silently take a knee ?.

Those things cant be compared to each other. Im sure Smith would say he would take it all back if he could.  Kaep is sticking to his guns even though he knows the repercussions  

[Bill from NYC]

5 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Reminds me of a number of years ago when Lawrence Phillips made a comeback After a few years off. I think the bills were close to Signing him; he ended up with the niners and was a shell of his old self. 

 

sadly, he ended up back in jail, killed his cell mate, and then committee suicide. 

Yeah he was a scumbag in college too. He dragged a girl down flights of stairs by her hair.

 

Phillips was an amazing talent. I liken him a bit to Eric Dickerson. Maybe a step slower but stronger.

 

A sane Lawrence Phillips would have been great in any era of football.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah he was a scumbag in college too. He dragged a girl down flights of stairs by her hair.

 

Phillips was an amazing talent. I liken him a bit to Eric Dickerson. Maybe a step slower but stronger.

 

A sane Lawrence Phillips would have been great in any era of football.

One of the most brutal domestic assaults you can imagine. He dragged her down three flights of stairs by the hair. Three! 

 

he also a few years later drove his car into a group of teenagers because he was mad.

 

the guy had a really troubled childhood and anger issues, and it did him in. 

[Bill from NYC]

On ‎4‎/‎2‎/‎2020 at 2:34 PM, Jauronimo said:

Do you remember when someone was out of the league for 3 years for taking a knee?

 

How many players took a knee and are still in the league?

 

If you like Kaepernick so much, perhaps you should barrage the Pegulas with e-mails, urging them to sign him. They might refuse because they have a great fan base that they do not wish to alienate. They are probably more into turning a profit and increasing the value of the team.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Bill from NYC

[Kirby Jackson]

31 minutes ago, TuelTime said:

 

Gordon smoked weed. He wasn't a danger to anyone. At all. In my opinion, he should get some type of reparations for all of the money in his contracts that he didn't receive due to his suspensions.

I’m fairly positive it wasn’t just weed (and I always defend the just weed guys). Gordon was/is an addict. He and Manziel were heading down a dangerous path but were much more dangerous to themselves. Smith has like a handful of DUIs and a domestic. He endangers others as well. That was my point.

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

How many players took a knee and are still in the league?

 

If you like Kaepernick so much, perhaps you should barrage the Pegulas with e-mails, urging them to sign him. They might refuse because they have a great fan base that they do no wish to alienate. They are probably more into turning a profit and increasing the value of the team.

If you hate Kaepernick so much maybe you should cut eye holes in your pillow case and burn some crosses on his front lawn.

 

This is fun!

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, BillsMafia13 said:

Those things cant be compared to each other. Im sure Smith would say he would take it all back if he could.  Kaep is sticking to his guns even though he knows the repercussions  

 

Right, they cant be compared to each other, because their actions are apples and oranges.

 

Smith's were crimes and attacks on other people and he should be sorry.

 

Kaep performed a non-violent protest to draw light and support to people being abused, and he should continue standing up (or kneeling down) for what he believes.

[Bill from NYC]

52 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

If you hate Kaepernick so much maybe you should cut eye holes in your pillow case and burn some crosses on his front lawn.

 

This is fun!

That was a really disgusting thing to say. Seriously, wtf is the matter with you?

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Right, they cant be compared to each other, because their actions are apples and oranges.

 

Smith's were crimes and attacks on other people and he should be sorry.

 

Kaep performed a non-violent protest to draw light and support to people being abused, and he should continue standing up (or kneeling down) for what he believes.

Kaep is out of the league, but everyone else who protested with him is still in the league. What are some key differences?

[cba fan]

9 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Reminds me of a number of years ago when Lawrence Phillips made a comeback After a few years off. I think the bills were close to Signing him; he ended up with the niners and was a shell of his old self. 

 

sadly, he ended up back in jail, killed his cell mate, and then committee suicide. 

he was in camp with Bills.

[Orlando Tim]

8 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

 

I think incognito is one concussion away from ending up completely brain dead. He still thinks he hears voices in his head. I was happy when we cut him loose. He was out of control

I do not say this flippantly but I fear Incognito has serious mental issues that need to be addressed when he is done playing or his life after football is going to be short. He thankfully has been able to channel some of his destructive force onto a football field. I hope he finds someone to help him 

[BuffaloBills1998]

56 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I do not say this flippantly but I fear Incognito has serious mental issues that need to be addressed when he is done playing or his life after football is going to be short. He thankfully has been able to channel some of his destructive force onto a football field. I hope he finds someone to help him 

Absolutely I completely agree, unfortunately I think he’s gonna end up going down the same road Seau did or he’s gonna end up like Lawrence Phillips or at worse OJ. Hope he gets the help he needs but I have my doubts he’s going to do that. I mean the fact that the Pegulas and everyone else had to hire extra security and permanently 86d Incognito from New era field says quite a bit. It’s hilarious to me that there’s people in this board that still defend him and say that Beane and McD made a mistake In cutting him even after all the bull#### he was pulling behind the scenes and the fact that he straight up quit on us after agreeing to take a pay cut lol. 

Edited April 3, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998

[BuffaloBills1998]

5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m fairly positive it wasn’t just weed (and I always defend the just weed guys). Gordon was/is an addict. He and Manziel were heading down a dangerous path but were much more dangerous to themselves. Smith has like a handful of DUIs and a domestic. He endangers others as well. That was my point.

Wasn’t it rumored that he and Manziel were doing Coke at the clubs in Cleveland? Plus someone got a picture of Manziel coming out of the bathroom with a rolled up 20 dollar bill.

Edited April 3, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998

[BillsMafia13]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Right, they cant be compared to each other, because their actions are apples and oranges.

 

Smith's were crimes and attacks on other people and he should be sorry.

 

Kaep performed a non-violent protest to draw light and support to people being abused, and he should continue standing up (or kneeling down) for what he believes.

Not taking sides but sorry to say this is a business buddy, the cowgirls took a chance on someone they hope has changed.  Because he wants to change. If I interviewed like Kaep I wouldnt even sniff a call back.  This isnt UNICEF sorry to inform you.  Im done talking about Kaep gd

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Wasn’t it rumored that he and Manziel were doing Coke at the clubs in Cleveland? Plus someone got a picture of Manziel coming out of the bathroom with a rolled up 20 dollar bill.

I think the story is something like that. They were super close and were just on this bender for a while. My memory is a little fuzzy on it but remember it being messy.

[RyanC883]

On 4/2/2020 at 6:26 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. 
 

This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.

 

I hope he has himself together now.  Any clue what he has been doing the past 5 years (coaching somewhere, etc.--in addition to hopefully counseling/rehab).  I cant' believe his last game was 2015!  

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I hope he has himself together now.  Any clue what he has been doing the past 5 years (coaching somewhere, etc.--in addition to hopefully counseling/rehab).  I cant' believe his last game was 2015!  

I have no idea where he’s been. I didn’t read too much on it. 2015 to 2020 was just shocking to me. That’s crazy