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....so there IS a God after all............going to have some anti-bacterial Bourbon momentarily...............

 

Yes, liquor stores are considered essential business and still open in New York state

 

Ryan Miller, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 5:32 p.m. ET March 20, 2020 | Updated 6:40 p.m. ET March 20, 2020
 

A lot of adults think liquor stores are essential during a quarantine. New York state agrees. 

Gov. Andrew Cuomo's "New York state on Pause" executive order prohibits all businesses from having their employees report to work on-site during the COVID-19 outbreak unless the business is considered "essential." 

Cuomo announced the mandate Friday, as the state's confirmed coronavirus cases grew to more than 7,000. 

Employers in several categories such as health care, infrastructure and retail are exempt, including "all food and beverage stores." That includes liquor stores to the joy of many on social media.

Liquor stores, breweries and cideries can stay open and do not need to reduce their on-site workforce. All beverage manufacturing is permitted to operate during the state order as well. 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2020/03/20/new-york-coronavirus-liquor-stores-essential-business-stay-home-andrew-cuomo/2888442001/

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12 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

Thanks for that. I was thinking about WWII and how this is our biggest national challenge since then - but it is a cakewalk in comparison. 
 

We can do this. Maybe the youngins will toughen up a little from this in the end.

I was not alive then but my mother in law said she lived through the Polio epidemic and even through thst the media didnt hype it up. In fact, her claim, is they talked people down. Attempted to keep a state of calm. She said this generation fears death too much because medicine has advanced so much to save our lives. The wisdom of an 80yo!

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

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Well! Thats an original idea.   That dates back to before the Catholic church was organized 1500 years ago. Bout time!

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7 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

I was not alive then but my mother in law said she lived through the Polio epidemic and even through thst the media didnt hype it up. In fact, her claim, is they talked people down. Attempted to keep a state of calm. She said this generation fears death too much because medicine has advanced so much to save our lives. The wisdom of an 80yo!

Well! Thats an original idea.   That dates back to before the Catholic church was organized 1500 years ago. Bout time!

 

...probably should bring some cash....probably a collection basket or tip cup...............

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 Coronavirus cases doubling faster in the U.S. than any other country, report says. 

 

“The report was written by the infectious disease analytics team from MITRE, a Bedford-based nonprofit. Cases have been rising sharply across the country and the report shows they double every 1.75 days — very quickly in comparison to South Korea’s 23 days, which has been widely hailed for its competent coronavirus response.”

 

 

UPDATE: On the other hand, this is right, I think:

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17 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

And fortunately it has not been needed thus far.

 

Perspective is still required

 

 

This is obviously photoshopped.  How many parking garages have you been in that have acoustic drop ceiling panels??  That’s the first give away, sprinklers coming out of the afore mentioned drop ceiling and the light source/how bright the beds are illuminated are some others.  

 

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11 minutes ago, Dirtyd415 said:
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This is obviously photoshopped.  How many parking garages have you been in that have acoustic drop ceiling panels??  That’s the first give away, sprinklers coming out of the afore mentioned drop ceiling and the light source/how bright the beds are illuminated are some others.  

 

 

 

 

I believe that it is real.........Vanderbilt University.

 

 

 

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo announces ‘trials on potential drug therapy recommended by Trump’ (media hot takes at risk of aging POORLY)

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Thank you DR for this refreshing breath of sanity. 
 

7 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

Thank you GBID for this refreshing ah, er, ah, um interesting article. 

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On 3/19/2020 at 8:20 PM, westside2 said:

You do realize that not only old people are effected? I have a 25 year old niece just admitted to the hospital today because of this virus. Half my family is on lockdown. My sister and brother are both in quarantine for 14 days for flu like symptoms. 

 

 

On 3/12/2020 at 12:30 PM, westside2 said:

My prayers are with you and your family.  

 

Same to you. Hope all is well.

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1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Different topic but agree with Trump enable the defense act. Prepared in case (think soon) hospitals being over whelmed. Also feel for small business and  Trump. I think he understands how fast the virus can spread.  And Trump businesses as well.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/21/trump-i-dont-know-if-my-businesses-will-receive-coronavirus-aid.html

 

President Donald Trump said Saturday he wasn’t sure if his business would receive financial assistance as part of coronavirus relief packages being considered by Congress. 

“I don’t know. I mean, I just don’t know what the government assistance would be for what I have,” Trump said at a White House briefing. “I have hotels. Everybody knew I had hotels when I got elected. They knew I was a successful person when I got elected so it’s one of those things.” 

 

The U.S. travel and tourism industry has asked for $150 billion in relief to offset a dramatic decline in travel due to the coronav

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Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said, "I’m not totally sure what the president was referring to,” when asked about an hours-earlier tweet by President Trump that claimed the FDA was working on a combination of an anti-malaria drug and an antibiotic that could treat the infection.

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19 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

From a FB post:

 

I talked to a man today

I talked with a man today, an 80+ year old man. I asked him if there was anything I can get him while this Coronavirus scare was gripping America.

He simply smiled, looked away and said:

"Let me tell you what I need! I need to believe, at some point, this country my generation fought for... I need to believe this nation we handed safely to our children and their children...

I need to know this generation will quit being a bunch of sissies...that they respect what they've been given...that they've earned what others sacrificed for."

I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or if it was going anywhere at all. So, I sat there, quietly observing.

"You know, I was a little boy during WWII. Those were scary days. We didn't know if we were going to be speaking English, German or Japanese at the end of the war. There was no certainty, no guarantees like Americans enjoy today.

And no home went without sacrifice or loss. Every house, up and down every street, had someone in harm's way. Maybe their Daddy was a soldier, maybe their son was a sailor, maybe it was an uncle. Sometimes it was the whole damn family...fathers, sons, uncles...

Having someone, you love, sent off to war...it wasn't less frightening than it is today. It was scary as Hell. If anything, it was more frightening. We didn't have battle front news. We didn't have email or cellphones. You sent them away and you hoped...you prayed. You may not hear from them for months, if ever. Sometimes a mother was getting her son's letters the same day Dad was comforting her over their child's death.

And we sacrificed. You couldn't buy things. Everything was rationed. You were only allowed so much milk per month, only so much bread, toilet paper. EVERYTHING was restricted for the war effort. And what you weren't using, what you didn't need, things you threw away, they were saved and sorted for the war effort. My generation was the original recycling movement in America.

And we had viruses back then...serious viruses. Things like polio, measles, and such. It was nothing to walk to school and pass a house or two that was quarantined. We didn't shut down our schools. We didn't shut down our cities. We carried on, without masks, without hand sanitizer. And do you know what? We persevered. We overcame. We didn't attack our President, we came together. We rallied around the flag for the war. Thick or thin, we were in it to win. And we would lose more boys in an hour of combat than we lose in entire wars today."

He slowly looked away again. Maybe I saw a small tear in the corner of his eye. Then he continued:

"Today's kids don't know sacrifice. They think a sacrifice is not having coverage on their phone while they freely drive across the country. Today's kids are selfish and spoiled. In my generation, we looked out for our elders. We helped out with single moms who's husbands were either at war or dead from war. Today's kids rush the store, buying everything they can...no concern for anyone but themselves. It's shameful the way Americans behave these days. None of them deserve the sacrifices their granddads made.

So, no I don't need anything. I appreciate your offer but, I know I've been through worse things than this virus. But maybe I should be asking you, what can I do to help you? Do you have enough pop to get through this, enough steak? Will you be able to survive with 113 channels on your tv?"

I smiled, fighting back a tear of my own...now humbled by a man in his 80's. All I could do was thank him for the history lesson, leave my number for emergency and leave with my ego firmly tucked in my rear.

I talked to a man today. A real man. An American man from an era long gone and forgotten. We will never understand the sacrifices. We will never fully earn their sacrifices. But we should work harder to learn about them..learn from them...to respect them.

 

Is anyone (besides our very dumb 3rdnlong) actually dumb enough to believe this is a true story?  Good lord, people will post anything to FB to get it shared

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48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Makes me wonder how much of the bureaucracy and red tape we can do away with once the hysteria is over?

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note: the factory is in China. They are shipping to NYS.

Actually the President announced today that (I believe it was Hanes) the underwear company was refitting their factory to make facemasks instead. Que the mass hysteria of people not buying toilet paper and now buying out underwear

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14 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Actually the President announced today that (I believe it was Hanes) the underwear company was refitting their factory to make facemasks instead. Que the mass hysteria of people not buying toilet paper and now buying out underwear


Well, If you don’t have enough of the first, you better get enough of the second....

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2 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

I’m not trying to be unreasonable, but unless I missed something, it does not appear that it’s even been determined her death was caused by the virus?  At the risk of sounding insensitive, she felt she had a cold, was certainly concerned about the virus.....5 day gap and she is found dead on the floor and therefor it’s obviously coronavirus?  

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4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Really, you're linking some guy's blog post?  

I wish he would've started with this paragraph instead of ending...

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You may ask yourself. Who is this guy? Who is this author? I’m a nobody.

I'll focus on one point. There is a figure posted that compares "case fatality rates" for the flu vs the virus but he doesn't really address the dramatic difference that screams out from that figure--the CFR is 2.3% for the virus vs. 0.1% for the flue. There is an interval given that states the CFR for the virus is somewhere between 12 and 24 times higher.  Let's see, nanker posted earlier today that 80,000 people died from the flu, which makes that interval 960,000 to 1.92 million....

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, meazza said:

Not that I’m a big proponent of comparing this to the flu but how many more would die if people wouldn’t take the flu vaccine ?

 

Certainly many more.  And yet tens of thousands die every year despite millions of people getting the vaccine.

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52 minutes ago, TPS said:

Really, you're linking some guy's blog post?  

I wish he would've started with this paragraph instead of ending...

I'll focus on one point. There is a figure posted that compares "case fatality rates" for the flu vs the virus but he doesn't really address the dramatic difference that screams out from that figure--the CFR is 2.3% for the virus vs. 0.1% for the flue. There is an interval given that states the CFR for the virus is somewhere between 12 and 24 times higher.  Let's see, nanker posted earlier today that 80,000 people died from the flu, which makes that interval 960,000 to 1.92 million....

 

 

 

no way in hell can you have an accurate CFR in the States right now. the only real number of cases showing up are those who are very ill from the virus, which dramatically inflates the current CFR. those who have contracted it and are showing little symptoms will not seek out medical assistance and therefore not be counted. 

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9 minutes ago, Foxx said:

no way in hell can you have an accurate CFR in the States right now. the only real number of cases showing up are those who are very ill from the virus, which dramatically inflates the current CFR. those who have contracted it and are showing little symptoms will not seek out medical assistance and therefore not be counted. 

 

800 people died in Italy today from the CoronaVirus.  That's a big number no matter how you look at it.   600 died yesterday; 400 died the day before. 

 

Yesterday, 221 people died in the US from the CoronaVirus.  172 died two days ago; 122 died three days ago.

 

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

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5 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said:

 

800 people died in Italy today from the CoronaVirus.  That's a big number no matter how you look at it.   600 died yesterday; 400 died the day before. 

 

Yesterday, 221 people died in the US from the CoronaVirus.  172 died two days ago; 122 died three days ago.

 

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

holy crap..... did you even read my post or the one i responded to for context? in what way does your response add to that chain?

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36 minutes ago, Foxx said:

no way in hell can you have an accurate CFR in the States right now. the only real number of cases showing up are those who are very ill from the virus, which dramatically inflates the current CFR. those who have contracted it and are showing little symptoms will not seek out medical assistance and therefore not be counted. 

You are correct about the States, which is why they used the data from China.  

24 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said:

 

800 people died in Italy today from the CoronaVirus.  That's a big number no matter how you look at it.   600 died yesterday; 400 died the day before. 

 

Yesterday, 221 people died in the US from the CoronaVirus.  172 died two days ago; 122 died three days ago.

 

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

The total deaths in the US are 300 so far, so not sure where you got those numbers.

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Hy guys,

cheer from a Bills fan from italy.

first of all sorry for my english, I did't read all the message in this topic, but please, stay safe..

just for explain the situation here, the mortality of this virus is really high in "old" people with some other pathology (medium age of ppl died in italy are 80Yo)

the real problem is the aggressivity of the contagium, that cause the collapse of emergency service, no more bed in hospital....

from tomorrow here, all service will be closed, for 15 days,except medical and food service... su be careefull dont understimate the danger of the situation!!

 

hope we will cheer togheter for bills soon :)

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13 minutes ago, lokkines said:

Hy guys,

cheer from a Bills fan from italy.

first of all sorry for my english, I did't read all the message in this topic, but please, stay safe..

just for explain the situation here, the mortality of this virus is really high in "old" people with some other pathology (medium age of ppl died in italy are 80Yo)

the real problem is the aggressivity of the contagium, that cause the collapse of emergency service, no more bed in hospital....

from tomorrow here, all service will be closed, for 15 days,except medical and food service... su be careefull dont understimate the danger of the situation!!

 

hope we will cheer togheter for bills soon :)

 

Keep safe man. I heard or read lots of site 67 medium age. 

Heard or read Italy has lots of younger people in the ICU.  

Feel for everyone there. 

Let's go Buffalo Bills lol. Glad Tom Brady outta of the division. 

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Ciao lokkines, di dove sei????

 

Spero tutto bene da te, qui a Genova la situazione è ancora sotto controllo, ma ci prepariamo all'onda.

Ho scritto anche un post qua sul mio ultimo giorno in ufficio.

 

GO BILLS!!!

25 minutes ago, lokkines said:

Hy guys,

cheer from a Bills fan from italy.

first of all sorry for my english, I did't read all the message in this topic, but please, stay safe..

just for explain the situation here, the mortality of this virus is really high in "old" people with some other pathology (medium age of ppl died in italy are 80Yo)

the real problem is the aggressivity of the contagium, that cause the collapse of emergency service, no more bed in hospital....

from tomorrow here, all service will be closed, for 15 days,except medical and food service... su be careefull dont understimate the danger of the situation!!

 

hope we will cheer togheter for bills soon :)

 

Ciao lokkines, di dove sei????

 

Spero tutto bene da te, qui a Genova la situazione è ancora sotto controllo, ma ci prepariamo all'onda.

Ho scritto anche un post qua sul mio ultimo giorno in ufficio.

 

GO BILLS!!!

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