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19 hours ago, Big Gun said:

Hahaha.........you're so dumb it's comical. I will never get the vaccine for something that is over 99% survivable!

 

Good luck to all you pro vacciners you're going to need it going forward.

You dont want it... longterm damage to lungs and heart can happen... the experience myself sucked with my heart racing for 11 days fever and body aches.

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NBC News quotes scientist offering a reason the Wuhan lab leak theory was shot down until recently (Hint: ‘TDS at its worst’)

 

Earlier this month the Washington Post’s fact-checker said there is “serious new reporting” about the theory that Covid-19 originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. Why is it just now becoming a story getting reported seriously instead of being something that would have gotten you suspended from social media until relatively recently? You might not be surprised:

 

 

 

From NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/lab-leak-theory-science-scientists-rcna1191

 

Chan said there had been trepidation among some scientists about publicly discussing the lab leak hypothesis for fear that their words could be misconstrued or used to support racist rhetoric about how the coronavirus emerged. Trump fueled accusations that the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a research lab in the city where the first Covid-19 cases were reported, was connected to the outbreak, and on numerous occasions he called the pathogen the “Wuhan virus” or “kung flu.”

“At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn’t want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins,” she said.  

 

 

Gives a whole new meaning to Political Science.

 

 

 

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Covid 4 life!!!

 

 

The Delta variant might pose the biggest threat yet to vaccinated people

 

The Delta variant appears to be more transmissible than any other coronavirus strain.

 

Some experts worry the variant could result in more breakthrough cases in vaccinated people.

 

Others are concerned that Delta could evolve into even more dangerous mutations.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-coronavirus-variant-strongest-threat-vaccinated-people-2021-6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

China.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/06/17/nbc-news-quotes-scientist-offering-a-reason-the-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-was-shot-down-until-recently-hint-tds-at-its-worst/

 

 

 

 

NBC News quotes scientist offering a reason the Wuhan lab leak theory was shot down until recently (Hint: ‘TDS at its worst’)

 

Earlier this month the Washington Post’s fact-checker said there is “serious new reporting” about the theory that Covid-19 originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. Why is it just now becoming a story getting reported seriously instead of being something that would have gotten you suspended from social media until relatively recently? You might not be surprised:

 

 

 

From NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/lab-leak-theory-science-scientists-rcna1191

 

Chan said there had been trepidation among some scientists about publicly discussing the lab leak hypothesis for fear that their words could be misconstrued or used to support racist rhetoric about how the coronavirus emerged. Trump fueled accusations that the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a research lab in the city where the first Covid-19 cases were reported, was connected to the outbreak, and on numerous occasions he called the pathogen the “Wuhan virus” or “kung flu.”

“At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn’t want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins,” she said.  

 

 

Gives a whole new meaning to Political Science.

 

Yup.  And as I've been saying, the same exact thing happened with HCQ.  And the real tragedy is that could have helped, and ivermectin might have helped more.  But no one was going to go out on a limb for ivermectin after what happened with HCQ.

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14 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Covid 4 life!!!

 

 

The Delta variant might pose the biggest threat yet to vaccinated people

 

The Delta variant appears to be more transmissible than any other coronavirus strain.

 

Some experts worry the variant could result in more breakthrough cases in vaccinated people.

 

Others are concerned that Delta could evolve into even more dangerous mutations.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-coronavirus-variant-strongest-threat-vaccinated-people-2021-6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Looks like a high ranking Chinese defector is spilling the beans on COVID and other topics.  Which in part could explain the sudden about-face on the lab theory. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9699221/Has-Chinese-official-defected-Rumors-swirl-diplomat-told-DC-Wuhan-lab.html

 

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/17/breaking-chinese-defector-confirmed-as-top-counterintelligence-official-n398374

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4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Looks like a high ranking Chinese defector is spilling the beans on COVID and other topics.  Which in part could explain the sudden about-face on the lab theory. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9699221/Has-Chinese-official-defected-Rumors-swirl-diplomat-told-DC-Wuhan-lab.html

 

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/17/breaking-chinese-defector-confirmed-as-top-counterintelligence-official-n398374

 

There ya go.  It had to be something concrete to force an about-face after over a year of vehement denials.

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4 hours ago, TSOL said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-disease-expert-says-covid-19-origins-probe-should-shift-us-global-times-2021-06-17/

 

I don't think corona is a China vs US thing. I think it's more of a handful of global elites (you know these guys names) thoroughly enjoying making 7¾ billion people chasing their tails like puppy dogs 


Mmm kay 

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When you heard "long covid" in 2020, raise your hand if you thought it meant anything less then 3 to 8 weeks?  You are lying if you thought they meant anything other then years. 

 

All part of the fear porn.  

 

Like this - now it's breaking thru the vaccine!

 

 

 

A 33-year-old nurse got long COVID despite being fully vaccinated. Doctors think we may see more of these rare cases

 

 

Anna Kern, a 33-year-old nurse, got long COVID several months after being fully vaccinated.

 

Doctors are starting to recognize that these cases are possible, even if they're extremely rare.

 

Kern said she's struggling to return to work while dealing with extreme fatigue.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/nurse-coronavirus-long-hauler-fully-vaccinated-breakthrough-infection-2021-6

 

 

Lock it down forever.  Game over.  

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Just now, Chef Jim said:

So at the gym no mask and 20% faster on did treadmill. Who woulda thunk more O2 was helpful writh your workout. 🙄

 

or working out regularly is proven to enhance your immune system!

 

that may be benificial if one might need to fight off any possible bacterial or viral infections out there. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

or working out regularly is proven to enhance your immune system!

 

that may be benificial if one might need to fight off any possible bacterial or viral infections out there. 

 


I’ve been going to the gym six days a week for several years now. When the gyms were closed I took hikes which gave me a better cardio workout. 

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22 hours ago, B-Man said:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/06/17/nbc-news-quotes-scientist-offering-a-reason-the-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-was-shot-down-until-recently-hint-tds-at-its-worst/

 

 

 

 

NBC News quotes scientist offering a reason the Wuhan lab leak theory was shot down until recently (Hint: ‘TDS at its worst’)

 

Earlier this month the Washington Post’s fact-checker said there is “serious new reporting” about the theory that Covid-19 originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. Why is it just now becoming a story getting reported seriously instead of being something that would have gotten you suspended from social media until relatively recently? You might not be surprised:

 

 

 

From NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/lab-leak-theory-science-scientists-rcna1191

 

Chan said there had been trepidation among some scientists about publicly discussing the lab leak hypothesis for fear that their words could be misconstrued or used to support racist rhetoric about how the coronavirus emerged. Trump fueled accusations that the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a research lab in the city where the first Covid-19 cases were reported, was connected to the outbreak, and on numerous occasions he called the pathogen the “Wuhan virus” or “kung flu.”

“At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn’t want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins,” she said.  

 

 

Gives a whole new meaning to Political Science.

 

 

 

 

And interestingly, no journalists with anonymous sources to be found...the truth a casual inconvenience for the “free press”.  

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

When you heard "long covid" in 2020, raise your hand if you thought it meant anything less then 3 to 8 weeks?  You are lying if you thought they meant anything other then years. 

 

All part of the fear porn.  

 

Like this - now it's breaking thru the vaccine!

 

 

 

A 33-year-old nurse got long COVID despite being fully vaccinated. Doctors think we may see more of these rare cases

 

 

Anna Kern, a 33-year-old nurse, got long COVID several months after being fully vaccinated.

 

Doctors are starting to recognize that these cases are possible, even if they're extremely rare.

 

Kern said she's struggling to return to work while dealing with extreme fatigue.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/nurse-coronavirus-long-hauler-fully-vaccinated-breakthrough-infection-2021-6

 

 

Lock it down forever.  Game over.  

Of course there are going to be exceptions since the vaccines approved so far decrease your risk of getting infected by 95%, 90%, and 76% depending on which one you got.  Not 100%.   I love how over 315 million people in the US has received one dose (148 million fully vaccinated) and this clown finds one person who got Covid despite being fully vaccinated.  All this article tells is young adults should get vaccinated ASAP because you can see the impact that Covid can have on them long term.

1 hour ago, Buffarukus said:

 

or working out regularly is proven to enhance your immune system!

 

that may be benificial if one might need to fight off any possible bacterial or viral infections out there. 

 

If only I had some kind of mechanism that could allow me to travel back in time and invest in Peloton stock.

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13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Of course there are going to be exceptions since the vaccines approved so far decrease your risk of getting infected by 95%, 90%, and 76% depending on which one you got.  Not 100%.   I love how over 315 million people in the US has received one dose (148 million fully vaccinated) and this clown finds one person who got Covid despite being fully vaccinated.  All this article tells is young adults should get vaccinated ASAP because you can see the impact that Covid can have on them long term.

If only I had some kind of mechanism that could allow me to travel back in time and invest in Peloton stock.

Yes, no process is 100% perfect all the time and the mRNA vaccines are around 94% effective in generating the antibodies in the systems of the population getting vaccinated.  Which means it didn't work for 6% which remain sustainable to the virus.  The risk is not knowing if it worked for you.  An antibody test would determine if it worked on any specific person or if they have "natural" immunity or if they have no antibodies and no immunity.   

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52 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Of course there are going to be exceptions since the vaccines approved so far decrease your risk of getting infected by 95%, 90%, and 76% depending on which one you got.  Not 100%.   I love how over 315 million people in the US has received one dose (148 million fully vaccinated) and this clown finds one person who got Covid despite being fully vaccinated.  All this article tells is young adults should get vaccinated ASAP because you can see the impact that Covid can have on them long term.

If only I had some kind of mechanism that could allow me to travel back in time and invest in Peloton stock.

 

 

If I'm not mistaken, they are only counting adults.  For The Fake news and Biden to be hailing it as 300 million and some sort of success is a misleading lie (this is red flag #34658 this is a sham) designed as some bizarre political success because this is all political.  

 

140 million Americans are fully vaccinated.  

 

 

75 to 100 million Americans including kids are not and will not be vaccinated for quite some time.  

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Yes, no process is 100% perfect all the time and the mRNA vaccines are around 94% effective in generating the antibodies in the systems of the population getting vaccinated.  Which means it didn't work for 6% which remain sustainable to the virus.  The risk is not knowing if it worked for you.  An antibody test would determine if it worked on any specific person or if they have "natural" immunity or if they have no antibodies and no immunity.   

Yeah.  My brother has an autoimmune disease and we knew he probably wouldn't respond to the vaccine.  He got the antibody test after taking the vaccine and it came back negative (unsurprisingly).  

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If I'm not mistaken, they are only counting adults.  For The Fake news and Biden to be hailing it as 300 million and some sort of success is a misleading lie (this is red flag #34658 this is a sham) designed as some bizarre political success because this is all political.  

 

140 million Americans are fully vaccinated.  

 

 

75 to 100 million Americans including kids are not and will not be vaccinated for quite some time.  

Whoops.  I meant 318 million doses have been administered and 140 million are fully vaccinated.  Hospitalizations and deaths are the lowest they've been since the disease got over here after the Wuhan research lab let their Frankenstein bat out of the lab.  Sorry about the bad news.

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah.  My brother has an autoimmune disease and we knew he probably wouldn't respond to the vaccine.  He got the antibody test after taking the vaccine and it came back negative (unsurprisingly).  

Whoops.  I meant 318 million doses have been administered and 140 million are fully vaccinated.  Hospitalizations and deaths are the lowest they've been since the disease got over here after the Wuhan research lab let their Frankenstein bat out of the lab.  Sorry about the bad news.

Without to pry, what medication is your brother on?

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9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Without to pry, what medication is your brother on?

He has localized digestive scleroderma and relies on a J-tube for feeding.  His symptoms are similar to those with severe gastroparesis.  He's on a crapload of medicine but methotrexate is the main medicine that would prevent him from responding to the vaccine.  He went off it a week before getting the shot. 

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Variants for life!  

 

 

Biden says the Delta variant - set to become the US's dominant strain - is 'particularly dangerous for young people'

 

 

President Biden warned Friday that the Delta variant is "particularly dangerous for young people."

 

Delta appears to be more transmissible than any other coronavirus strain.

 

Young people who are unvaccinated and socially active may be more susceptible than others.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-delta-coronavirus-variant-particularly-dangerous-young-people-2021-6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Florida Court rules against President CDC:

 

 

 

CDC can't regulate cruises: judge

 

A federal judge in Florida on Friday ruled that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) coronavirus-era sailing orders were an overreach of power, issuing a preliminary injunction temporarily barring the CDC from enforcing the guidelines. 

 

Judge Steven Merryday for the Middle District of Florida in his ruling sided with the Sunshine State in its argument that the "CDC's conditional sailing order and the implementing orders exceed the authority delegated to CDC." 

 

As a result, Merryday approved Florida's motion for a preliminary injunction suspending the mandatory guidelines for cruise ships, writing that the CDC is "preliminary enjoined from enforcing against a cruise ship arriving in, within, or departing from a port in Florida the conditional sailing order and the later measures." 

 

The injunction will stay in place until July 18, at which point the "conditional sailing order and the measures promulgated under the conditional sailing order will persist as only a non-binding 'consideration,' 'recommendation' or 'guideline,'" as is the case for other industries such as restaurants, railroads and hotels, according to the ruling.  

 

DeSantis, who has long railed against coronavirus safety restrictions, praised the judge's Friday ruling, writing in a statement issued by his office, "The CDC has been wrong all along, and they knew it." 

 

"The CDC and the Biden Administration concocted a plan to sink the cruise industry, hiding behind bureaucratic delay and lawsuits," he continued. "Today, we are securing this victory for Florida families, for the cruise industry, and for every state that wants to preserve its rights in the face of unprecedented federal overreach."

 

https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/559248-cdc-cant-regulate-cruises-judge

 

 

 

 

The hero we deserve..

 

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It’s great to see life finally getting back to normal. The thing that makes me nervous   is various states and localities, especially New York State, will be emboldened to shut things down again at the drop of a hat this fall/winter when who-knows-what numbers rise a little bit.

 

With Dementia Boy in the White House cheering it on most likely :(

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We did it!!!!!!!!

 

We won!!!!!! 

 

Mitigation is over!!

 

 

Two Americas’ may emerge as Delta variant spreads and vaccination rates drop

 

With Covid vaccination penetration in the US likely to fall short of Joe Biden’s 70% by Fourth of July target, pandemic analysts are warning that vaccine incentives are losing traction and that “two Americas” may emerge as the aggressive Delta variant becomes the dominant US strain.

Efforts to boost vaccination rates have come through a variety of incentives, from free hamburgers to free beer, college scholarships and even million-dollar lottery prizes. But of the efforts to entice people to get their shots have lost their initial impact, or failed to land effectively at all.

 

Separately, pandemic researchers are warning that a picture of “two Americas” is emerging – the vaccinated and unvaccinated – that in many ways might reflect red state and blue state political divides.

 

Only 52% of Republicans said they were partially or fully vaccinated, and 29% said they have no intention of getting a vaccine, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll. 77% of Democrats said they were already vaccinated, with just 5% responding that were resisting the vaccine.

 

“I call it two Covid nations,” Peter Hotez, a vaccine researcher at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, told BuzzFeed News.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/20/us-covid-delta-variant-spreads-vaccination-rates-drop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Team Beasely for life.  

 

I hope they (I bet it's 30% of the league refusing) all retire.  

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Is this the same deal with Mexico? 

 

Seems it should be since the planet is facing global extinction from yet to be mutated variants.....

 

 

 

Canada Says Border Won't Fully Reopen Until 75% Vaccination Rate

 

 

The U.S. border is unlikely to be completely reopened until 75% of Canadians are fully vaccinated, Canada’s border chief said on Sunday in comments likely to fuel mounting impatience in both countries at the restrictions.

 

The world’s longest undefended border has been closed to most travel since March 2020. On Friday, Canada extended the restrictions until at least July 21, though it’s expected to announce the easing of some rules Monday for fully vaccinated citizens.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-20/no-full-reopening-to-u-s-until-75-canadians-vaccinated-chief

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GREAT MOMENTS IN SELF-OWNERSHIP:

 

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I’ll believe there’s an ongoing public health emergency when the people telling me there’s an ongoing public health emergency start acting like there’s an ongoing public health emergency.

 

 

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On 6/18/2021 at 2:19 PM, Chef Jim said:

So at the gym no mask and 20% faster on did treadmill. Who woulda thunk more O2 was helpful writh your workout. 🙄

Well, walkin

 

On 6/19/2021 at 11:48 AM, Big Blitz said:

Variants for life!  

 

 

Biden says the Delta variant - set to become the US's dominant strain - is 'particularly dangerous for young people'

 

 

President Biden warned Friday that the Delta variant is "particularly dangerous for young people."

 

Delta appears to be more transmissible than any other coronavirus strain.

 

Young people who are unvaccinated and socially active may be more susceptible than others.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-delta-coronavirus-variant-particularly-dangerous-young-people-2021-6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Maybe I missed something. But Joe but us back in WHO correct? And WHO is recommending kids do not get vaxed right? 
 

so who’s on first?

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On 6/20/2021 at 10:33 AM, Big Blitz said:

We did it!!!!!!!!

 

We won!!!!!! 

 

Mitigation is over!!

 

 

Two Americas’ may emerge as Delta variant spreads and vaccination rates drop

 

With Covid vaccination penetration in the US likely to fall short of Joe Biden’s 70% by Fourth of July target, pandemic analysts are warning that vaccine incentives are losing traction and that “two Americas” may emerge as the aggressive Delta variant becomes the dominant US strain.

Efforts to boost vaccination rates have come through a variety of incentives, from free hamburgers to free beer, college scholarships and even million-dollar lottery prizes. But of the efforts to entice people to get their shots have lost their initial impact, or failed to land effectively at all.

 

Separately, pandemic researchers are warning that a picture of “two Americas” is emerging – the vaccinated and unvaccinated – that in many ways might reflect red state and blue state political divides.

 

Only 52% of Republicans said they were partially or fully vaccinated, and 29% said they have no intention of getting a vaccine, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll. 77% of Democrats said they were already vaccinated, with just 5% responding that were resisting the vaccine.

 

“I call it two Covid nations,” Peter Hotez, a vaccine researcher at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, told BuzzFeed News.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/20/us-covid-delta-variant-spreads-vaccination-rates-drop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Team Beasely for life.  

 

I hope they (I bet it's 30% of the league refusing) all retire.  

 

So don't get it you don't want to.  Who cares?  

 

If you don't get the vaccine and catch COVID the good news is hospitals won't be over run and we won't run out of ventilators.

 

Party like its 1920.

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10 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

So don't get it you don't want to.  Who cares?  

 

If you don't get the vaccine and catch COVID the good news is hospitals won't be over run and we won't run out of ventilators.

 

Party like its 1920.

 

 

They aren't letting the unvaccinated live normal.  This is a massive problem.  

 

We went from flatten the curve to "everybody should get vaccinated it's super safe."

 

 

It's so super safe after allegedly 20 plus years of research that kids under 12 still aren't allowed to take it.  Guess they just need a few more months to figure it out.....then they'll definitely know and know the long term side effects.  

 

 

Mitigation including any private business requiring a vaccine needs to stop unless a good justification can be given.  At this point the unvaccinated have assessed risk and told nanny state they'll take their chances.  That's their right.  We're done here.  

 

Drop the mask charade they never worked.  And stop with the variants b.s.  Anyone still listening to these people no questions asked has more wrong upstairs then they seem to think Cole Beasely does.

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Tears from the right are right on schedule.

 

In another month, when the variant takes hold, they’ll be claiming that Biden is committing genocide on red states. 
 

They could just get vaccinated and return to normal.

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34 minutes ago, Governor said:

Tears from the right are right on schedule.

 

They could just get vaccinated and return to normal.

 

 

Imagine that.

 

Conservatives being consistent on self independence.

 

Let's just try and muddle the reasoned responses by calling them "tears"

 

LOL.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

They aren't letting the unvaccinated live normal.  This is a massive problem.  

 

We went from flatten the curve to "everybody should get vaccinated it's super safe."

 

 

It's so super safe after allegedly 20 plus years of research that kids under 12 still aren't allowed to take it.  Guess they just need a few more months to figure it out.....then they'll definitely know and know the long term side effects.  

 

 

Mitigation including any private business requiring a vaccine needs to stop unless a good justification can be given.  At this point the unvaccinated have assessed risk and told nanny state they'll take their chances.  That's their right.  We're done here.  

 

Drop the mask charade they never worked.  And stop with the variants b.s.  Anyone still listening to these people no questions asked has more wrong upstairs then they seem to think Cole Beasely does.

 

I'm making the assumption you have not been vaccinated.  What can't you do that vaccinated people can?  The Bills I have announced full capacity no vaccine required.  Most baseball teams have done so.  I suspect other businesses to follow suit in the very near term.

 

As to the bolded are you suggesting the government tell businesses they can't do this? Of course they can. Freedom.  No shirt. No shoes. No service.  Some stores let you bring your dog in, some don't.

 

I don't care if you get it or not.  

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COVID-19: India reports new 'Delta plus' coronavirus variant of concern

 

 

Sixteen cases of the variant were detected in the western state of Maharashtra on Tuesday.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-india-reports-new-delta-plus-coronavirus-variant-of-concern-12339465

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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