JerseyBills Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I continue to be delighted at the Bills' ability to build a top notch front office and coaching staff. It seems like when quality front office people or coaches leave, they are almost always replaced by people as good or better than them. Dan Morgan stepping into the front office was a great example of this, as is the hire of Eric Washington. Also, having a former head coach as defensive coordinator and having a former defensive coordinator as DL coach -- I like it. Can never have enough great teachers and leaders of men. Awesome hire. I feel we have a heavily respected FO and Coaching staff so not as difficult to fill these voids with quality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Good hire, and kinda obvious but I did finally get something right in the other thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Blah PFF. I have had enough of their Grades. Cody Ford has a similar grade from PFF and then there are the numbers Carolina Runs over RT 4.41 ypc ranked 14th in the NFL Bills runs over RT 2.95 ypc ranked 29th in the NFL Williams started 12 games at LG last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) I'de like to see some experience added to the offensive coaching staff. Not sure what they could do there. We lack in coaching experience on offense. Edited January 10, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Damn! Read the comments from the Carolina fans. Not very positive. Not very liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Damn! Read the comments from the Carolina fans. Not very positive. Not very liked. He failed as a DC there. They were happy when he was promoted to DC. It's just how it works sometimes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Good hire. Will be a smooth transition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, wppete said: Damn! Read the comments from the Carolina fans. Not very positive. Not very liked. Their overall run defense fell off a cliff this year. Not sure why given their front seven - definitely not a good look for him, but he should be able to coach up the line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Their overall run defense fell off a cliff this year. Not sure why given their front seven - definitely not a good look for him, but he should be able to coach up the line. I was thinking the same thing. Seems like not a success as a DC/play caller but hopefully he is a great position coach and motivator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Seems like a great hire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Good pick, no issues with this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, wppete said: Damn! Read the comments from the Carolina fans. Not very positive. Not very liked. Sometimes guys are better suited for position coach or coordinator duties. Leslie Frazier, for instance, didn't have much success as a head coach, but is an excellent defensive coordinator. Wade Phillips is another one that comes to mind. I'm guessing Panthers fans don't like him because he failed as a defensive coordinator, not as a defensive line coach. I'm sure none of them were complaining during the seven year stretch that Washington coached the DL there and they led the league in sacks. Edited January 10, 2020 by Logic 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 After so many people moved from Buffalo to Charlotte over the past 20 years, it's nice to see some going in the other direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 57 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: why? I could see going after Mario Addison though as he give us a pass rusher that might be cheaper/better than Shaq for a year or two. As Addison likes to think Beane made his career and now we have a guy he's been coached by most of his career too. Tells me the Carolina Pipeline is still alive and well, So I can see all Carolina UFAs getting looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: This actually seems like an upgrade. Now what about Carolina's OC, Norv Turner? I'd love it if he'd come aboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, BmarvB said: I'd love it if he'd come aboard Even as a consultant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Even as a consultant Ehh... bordering on "too many cooks in the kitchen" at that point. I remember a few years back the Cowboys had different OCs for the passing game and running games. And while I believe the offense improved a bit, they still didnt make it very far. (Looked it up, they did it in 2011 and 2014, and went 12-4 in 2014 so maybe....) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Dude didn't even flinch lmao Just now, Bronxbomber21 said: Dude didn't even flinch lmao Total lack of awareness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, Utah John said: After so many people moved from Buffalo to Charlotte over the past 20 years, it's nice to see some going in the other direction. A Panthers Bills game at Bank of America Stadium is a Bills Home Game without fans having to travel.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Ehh... bordering on "too many cooks in the kitchen" at that point. I remember a few years back the Cowboys had different OCs for the passing game and running games. And while I believe the offense improved a bit, they still didnt make it very far. (Looked it up, they did it in 2011 and 2014, and went 12-4 in 2014 so maybe....) Maybe if it was Daboll's playbook and prep, but Norv calling plays on game day. Kinda like when Lynn took over for Roman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Ehh... bordering on "too many cooks in the kitchen" at that point. I remember a few years back the Cowboys had different OCs for the passing game and running games. And while I believe the offense improved a bit, they still didnt make it very far. (Looked it up, they did it in 2011 and 2014, and went 12-4 in 2014 so maybe....) Bills had one too with Roman and Chris Palmer ... not advocating for it as much as saying he is knowledgeable and could be a good resource Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Their Message Board https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/161854-eric-washington-hired-by-bills-to-be-dl-coach/ "Good for him. He’s a excellent DL coach but nowhere close to qualified as a DC. Why Rivera couldn’t figure this out is beyond anyone with good eyes. I actually think RR is more to blame for his failures as a DC." "great hire. There is a very real thing in life called over promoting someone. Means you can have a GREAT employee. Fantastic. You can then overpromote them.....into a position they don't excel at. That doesn't mean the person wasn't great and won't be again in the right job. Washington is a great DL coach. The fact we put him into a job he didn't do well doesn't change that." Seems the Theme.... Hell of a DL coach, not a DC Edited January 10, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Purplebulldog said: Good hire. If we do well on D next year and Frazier gets poached here is the new DC yep- keep the pipeline filled with quality coaching and without jerking around the scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 It sure looks like the team got an upgrade at D line coach ?? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Purplebulldog said: Good hire. If we do well on D next year and Frazier gets poached here is the new DC He isn’t a very good DC. That is why Panther fans are happy. He is a hell of a DL coach though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, TPS said: I was for going after him until I saw this ... https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/daryl-williams/9535 PFF are wrong more than they are right. Didn't even click on the link just know it's biased crap and I'll never that the wasted time back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Yeah, if Oliver/Phillips/Shaq liked Teerlink, they are going to LOVE Washington. Assuming Phillips and Shaq come back (please!). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Any idea why Washington wouldn't follow Rivera to Washington? He had ample time to bring him along before Teerlink bolted for VA Tech. and they wacked Billy C as o line coach in washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, wppete said: Damn! Read the comments from the Carolina fans. Not very positive. Not very liked. They didn't like him as coordinator. Which they seem incapable of realising he won't be in Buffalo. His D line record speaks for itself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Cantankeous said: Excellent hire. Say what you will about cronyism regarding Carolina, Washington was Sean’s DLine Coach for his last 6 season there, making him an authority of Sean’s schemes, while getting exceptional performance out his players. Definite upgrade. Can he fix Star!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It can be a double-edged sword though... The key to this is also having a Head Coach who is playing the role as True Head Coach. CEO and Admin of the overall team. The opposite was true in Atlanta this year. They had multiple former HCs on the Offensive staff, and Quinn took over the DC role and D Playcalling. This effectively left them with a "Head Coach by Committee" situation and without a true leader. And they sunk hard. As long as McD stays "above it" all, and only steps in when needed, then this is a great way to build the staff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 A UFA name to watch for the Bills is Mario Addison... - Fits the culture - Very close with Coach Washington - Another Veteran Presence for the D-Line room - Consistent sack guy at OLB or DE http://www.nfl.com/player/marioaddison/2530474/profile 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, elroy16 said: Former Panthers DC. Previous experience as a D-line coach. Looks like a quality hire. My only reservation is that sometimes a guy who is taking a step back has all the requisite skills, but is not "All In" with a move that is a demotion. See Robieskie, Terry. Hopefully McDermott knows this guy better and can judge if it is or is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: My only reservation is that sometimes a guy who is taking a step back has all the requisite skills, but is not "All In" with a move that is a demotion. See Robieskie, Terry. Hopefully McDermott knows this guy better and can judge if it is or is not the case. I'm sure he was reassured that he wouldn't be blocked if another DC offer came around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Blah PFF. I have had enough of their Grades. Cody Ford has a similar grade from PFF and then there are the numbers Carolina Runs over RT 4.41 ypc ranked 14th in the NFL Bills runs over RT 2.95 ypc ranked 29th in the NFL It wasn't their grade that worried me, rather it stated he gave up 12 sacks. If that is true, that is worrisome... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TPS said: It wasn't their grade that worried me, rather it stated he gave up 12 sacks. If that is true, that is worrisome... Did he "give" them up, or was he credited them after a 2018 UDFA In Kyle Allen or a 2019 3rd round Rookie Will Grier get confused and hold a ball too long. Without watching the Panthers games and looking at each sack to see how long the QB held the ball, just citing sack numbers is meaningless Edited January 10, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 This is a great hire now I don't care if Frazier runs his 19th century cover two I love Washington's attacking style. Watch on youtube when the Patroits played Carolina when Mcdermot and Washington were their they did a number on Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: Did he "give" them up, or was he credited them after a 2018 UDFA In Kyle Allen or a 2019 3rd round Rookie Will Grier get confused and hold a ball too long. Without watching the Panthers games just citing sack numbers is meaningless Thanks. I'm sure Beane (and McD) know, so we'll see if they go after him. Personally, it would be great to get an upgrade then move Ford to G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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