Why We Will Struggle in the Playoffs

[Buffalo Barbarian]

 I love McDermott and know he is the right coach for this team.

 

However after watching game film of this game he is going to realize that our offense plays much better in the no huddle/ hurry up.  All our scores today came when they weren't huddling and putting pressure on the Defense. It gives us more time to make adjustments and less time for them and keeps them on their heals. It doesn't need to be 11 personnel either, go 21, 22 whatever just move with urgency and hurry the hell up!

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian

[whorlnut]

Offensive struggles?  Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Offensive struggles?  Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 

 

That didn't help but it was obvious the offense sucked when it huddled and and didn't when they didn't.

 

 

[Bleedbuffaloblue]

The defense lost this game, period. No way that Pat’s offense should put 24 points on the board, especially when the offense didn’t turn the ball over and give them any seriously short fields. Poor tackling was a big factor for sure. The defense has always told the offense get us 17points and we will do the rest. Well, not today.

Still all in all a really good playoff type game. surely nothing to hang their heads about.

[BananaB]

23 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Offensive struggles?  Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 

Sony is the softest RB in the league and all night he got extra yards.

 

Edited December 22, 2019 by BananaB

[Green Lightning]

24 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Offensive struggles?  Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 

Tough to argue both points. 

21 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

That didn't help but it was obvious the offense sucked when it huddled and and didn't when they didn't.

 

 

Also tough to argue.

[Rc2catch]

Win as a team, lose as a team. 
It’s that simple. They lost as a team today. 
If everyone wants to argue over who is more to blame I’ll enjoy the hot takes lol

But there’s 4 ways it can go tonight. 
Allen

Daboll

Offensive line 

Defense

 

maybe 5 cause we want to blame officials too

 

crap 6 now cause ya know duke.. 

[Kelly the Dog]

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

[billsfan_34]

6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

Here here let him play now

[DuckyBoys]

5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

 

I'm starting to doubt we will ever see it under McDermott.  This keep it close obsession he has is going to limit this team

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

 

we are, and as it stands right now the hurry up is our best chance of winning. If we do this slow huddle in the playoffs we might win a game, depending on opponent.

 

 

4 hours ago, Bleedbuffaloblue said:

The defense lost this game, period. No way that Pat’s offense should put 24 points on the board, especially when the offense didn’t turn the ball over and give them any seriously short fields. Poor tackling was a big factor for sure. The defense has always told the offense get us 17points and we will do the rest. Well, not today.

Still all in all a really good playoff type game. surely nothing to hang their heads about.

 

the Defense had its struggles but if the offense was put on full tilt we win this game, no need to use the huddle and get to the line late and let the defense dictate our actions.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Win as a team, lose as a team. 
It’s that simple. They lost as a team today. 
If everyone wants to argue over who is more to blame I’ll enjoy the hot takes lol

But there’s 4 ways it can go tonight. 
Allen

Daboll

Offensive line 

Defense

 

maybe 5 cause we want to blame officials too

 

crap 6 now cause ya know duke.. 

 

This is not a hot take . Not using the no huddle consistently IS THE REASON for this teams offensive failures. When they use it we score more and if you score more you win more, its that simple.

 

 

3 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

 

I'm starting to doubt we will ever see it under McDermott.  This keep it close obsession he has is going to limit this team

 

it is.

 

We turned the corner after the Cleveland loss and put up three impressive wins in a row but we struggled against the ravens and it welp that's it lets go back to our old clunker ways. Barely worked against Pittsburgh because their QB is a duck, but when you play good teams its not going to get the job done.

 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Here here let him play now

 

we have to or we wont go far.

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

we have to or we wont go far.

 

 

It seems so obvious. 

[Virgil]

6 hours ago, whorlnut said:

Offensive struggles?  Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 

It wasn’t one thing.  Allen hits Knox in the endzone on the last drive and it’s tied.  It was a group effort loss 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

It seems so obvious. 

 

it does, he figured it out 6 wks ago, hopefully after this game he will go back to it. He has always been a defensive guy and has a process and its probably hard for him to embrace an aggressive offense as he believes the other way is the way to winning, but after watching film of today and last week has to re-emphasise that the ravens game was an aberration and that right now the no huddle is what is best for this team. Maybe in the future we can huddle up and be effective but right now its no consistent enough for wins.

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

25 minutes ago, Virgil said:

It wasn’t one thing.  Allen hits Knox in the endzone on the last drive and it’s tied.  It was a group effort loss 

That was not an easy pass. Yes, we would love for him to hit it but he cannot risk it being short. He missed Knox earlier on an even harder one. It looked fairly easy but it was not at all. A lot of times the TV angles are grossly inadequate. 

 

That said, even though neither of those two passes were easy for anyone, you would have liked for him to hit one of the two. Anyone who thinks those were routine passes knows nothing. It needs to be a near perfect pass. 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Kelly the Dog

[billsfan_34]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

we have to or we wont go far.

 

 

Exactly- Bens first year in Pitt he was a game manager, albeit more accurate and then year 2 they took the cuffs off. It is time to quit the conservative *****.

[Magox]

11 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

Step by step.  This year it’s clear that they purposely have put him in the game manager sort of role.  The idea is to let the defense hold teams down, have a strong ground game and limit Allen’s mistakes.   I get that isn’t where Allen will thrive in this league but that was and is the plan for this year.

 

Next year when Allen shows even more growth in camp and preseason Daboll will loosen the shackles even more.   I am very confident of that.

[BeastMaster]

11 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

Yes, but Josh needs to fix his mechanics and be better on some of these throws.

 

With the errant passes he throws now, having him sling it will result in even more.

 

The kid is a baller and I love everything about him, but he's gotta fix the footwork so it's more consistent before we turn him loose.

[Big Gun]

11 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

 

I'm starting to doubt we will ever see it under McDermott.  This keep it close obsession he has is going to limit this team

Yes and McD may turn out to be a very good coach who can get there but can't ever get over the hump and win the big games. Time will tell

[youngjebrey]

Struggle in the playoffs lol? I mean, have you seen the Texans? If that’s their opponent I feel pretty good about their “struggle” 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, youngjebrey said:

Struggle in the playoffs lol? I mean, have you seen the Texans? If that’s their opponent I feel pretty good about their “struggle” 

 

Clowned by crab legs

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Exactly- Bens first year in Pitt he was a game manager, albeit more accurate and then year 2 they took the cuffs off. It is time to quit the conservative *****.

+1. The same with Brady too..Both Brady and Benn won with Strong Defense and ST.  Don't put everything on the shoulder of your young QB.  He can play if he wants..Look at the 4th and 1 QB sneak...that is enough said.

[billsfan_34]

19 minutes ago, ganesh said:

+1. The same with Brady too..Both Brady and Benn won with Strong Defense and ST.  Don't put everything on the shoulder of your young QB.  He can play if he wants..Look at the 4th and 1 QB sneak...that is enough said.

Huge mistakes with the RB position. He needs a better running attack and better run blocking.

[MDH]

14 hours ago, Bleedbuffaloblue said:

The defense lost this game, period.

Why does it have to be binary? Both the O and D heavily contributed to the loss yesterday. I’m more disappointed in the D because I expect more from them but the O was, once again, putrid for most of the game. Two big plays don’t erase the rest of the game.

Edited December 22, 2019 by MDH

[Franco_92]

This game convinced me that we are going to walk all over Houston and then give Baltimore a really tough game. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, ganesh said:

+1. The same with Brady too..Both Brady and Benn won with Strong Defense and ST.  Don't put everything on the shoulder of your young QB.  He can play if he wants..Look at the 4th and 1 QB sneak...that is enough said.

 

Josh plays better in the Hurry up he needs that pressure right now to play better . This is not about conservative play calls , formation or any of that stuff. When this team plays fast it puts pressure on the defensive giving us the advantage, when we play slow ball then it gives the defense the advantage, its that simple.

 

 

 

[billsfan_34]

6 hours ago, Magox said:

Step by step.  This year it’s clear that they purposely have put him in the game manager sort of role.  The idea is to let the defense hold teams down, have a strong ground game and limit Allen’s mistakes.   I get that isn’t where Allen will thrive in this league but that was and is the plan for this year.

 

Next year when Allen shows even more growth in camp and preseason Daboll will loosen the shackles even more.   I am very confident of that.

Have you sat in the team meetings when they decided this was the plan? I mean, there is some conviction in your words ???

[Iron Maiden]

17 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 

I tend to believe they let Josh do his things early in the season...let him be aggressive.... and the turnovers made coach McD rethink that strategy....and it changed after the 1st NE game.....yes, Josh is a play maker...but he is NOT consistent right now...I am however, 100% sure that it's coming...and when it does, he'll be an incredible weapon......

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

Yes, but Josh needs to fix his mechanics and be better on some of these throws.

 

With the errant passes he throws now, having him sling it will result in even more.

 

The kid is a baller and I love everything about him, but he's gotta fix the footwork so it's more consistent before we turn him loose.

 

His mechanics are fine when hes not thinking about them and is why he is way more accurate in the hurry up which is the main problem with the offense when we dont run it.

 

On the drives were we ran the Hurry up we scored and he hit his targets.

 

 

[Dr.Sack]

Assume we stopped just one of NE’s 2 TDs forcing a FG instead. That’s 17-20 with a chance to tie on the final drive. I would have loved to see us make to OT. No doubt we would have prevailed given our ability to take the top off their defense with Knox or Brown. That said our defense was missing a helluva lot of one on one tackles.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 hours ago, youngjebrey said:

Struggle in the playoffs lol? I mean, have you seen the Texans? If that’s their opponent I feel pretty good about their “struggle” 

 

Because i want more than one win and again the point is THIS TEAM performs better in the hurry up and slowing down makes them struggle . Its clear to see.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Assume we stopped just one of NE’s 2 TDs forcing a FG instead. That’s 17-20 with a chance to tie on the final drive. I would have loved to see us make to OT. No doubt we would have prevailed given our ability to take the top off their defense with Knox or Brown. That said our defense was missing a helluva lot of one on one tackles.

 

None of that is the point. We perform better in the Hurry Up period, end of story. If we ran it the whole game and not when we needed to we would have won and we wdnt be discussing scenarios of IF we score.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, arcane said:

This game convinced me that we are going to walk all over Houston and then give Baltimore a really tough game. 

 

If we play slow ball we will barely beat the Texans and will get run over by the ravens. The offense is better in the Hurry up and is worse when we dont, if we want to go far we need to hurry up.

 

 

[Tesla03]

the fact we have the 2nd best mobile QB in the NFL and refuse to let him run is a joke

 

do you know how dangerous our offense could be if we ran RPO? instead Daboll forces Allen to sit back there and pick apart defenses like he is Drew Brees

[WideRightRevenge]

I think it's great that we can even have a thread with this title ... for most of the past 20 years .. such a thread would not be possible .. now we're saying the Bills will struggle in the Playoffs ... BOOOYYAHHH!!!

[Phil The Thrill]

19 hours ago, whorlnut said:

Offensive struggles?  Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 

Not really.  The offense couldn’t score 24 points.  I guess we need to count on the defense to keep the score under 17 points to win?

4 hours ago, MDH said:

Why does it have to be binary? Both the O and D heavily contributed to the loss yesterday. I’m more disappointed in the D because I expect more from them but the O was, once again, putrid for most of the game. Two big plays don’t erase the rest of the game.

You are making too much sense!!!

[Dick_Cheney]

Also probably because we dont' have a WR taller than 5'8. Just food for thought.

Edited December 22, 2019 by Dick_Cheney

[RiotAct]

3 hours ago, arcane said:

This game convinced me that we are going to walk all over Houston and then give Baltimore a really tough game. 

we are NOT going to walk all over Houston.  It will be a close, grind-it-out affair... with a slightly more than 50% chance that we come out on top.

[Putin]

7 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Exactly- Bens first year in Pitt he was a game manager, albeit more accurate and then year 2 they took the cuffs off. It is time to quit the conservative *****.

I'm a conservative but I agree with this message !!!