theAteam Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, GG said: Steelers are not a blitz heavy team? With Dupree and Watt they don't need to blitz. They get the necessary pressure on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GG said: Steelers are not a blitz heavy team? They disguise the rush very well but they don’t bring an extra rusher with too much frequency. They do get plenty of sacks... Edited December 13, 2019 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) i shouldn't be but i'm shocked at the number of talking heads, rags, internet LAMP/attention-whores, "expert" bloggers calling the Steelers in this one, it just doesn't add up. I'll give "toss up" or "flip a coin" but the crap i'm hearing has very little justification with the exception of "it's in Pittsburgh". and you know, no amount of victory will validate the Bills, it'll be "oh, they have a 3rd String QB" and "JJSS didn't play and Connors was not 100%". Edited December 13, 2019 by Say When... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Say When... said: i shouldn't be but i'm shocked at the number of talking heads, rags, internet LAMP/attention-whores, "expert" bloggers calling the Steelers in this one, it just doesn't add up. I'll give "toss up" or "flip a coin" but the crap i'm hearing has very little justification with the exception of "it's in Pittsburgh". and you know, no amount of victory will validate the Bills, it'll be "oh, they have a 3rd String QB" and "JJSS didn't play and Connors was not 100%". I just read Joe B's assessment and I was pretty shocked he picked the Steelers. His assertion is essentially that on film, the Steelers are the most talented defense the Bills have faced all season and that Allen hasn't learned a thing since NE, essentially. *shrug* I expect the Ravens, NE, and the 49ers would all have something to say about that "Steelers are the Best Defense in Football" thing, and I disagree with Joe's film assessments at times when I know I'm watching the same plays he's watching. We'll see. Joe B claims an 11-2 record with his predictions but going back, I can't find all his weekly predictions in his Athletic articles. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The Bill's defense dominates poor QBs. Duck Hodges is a poor Qb. Buffalo wins easy imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Nope. They play a ton of zone. You'll see a completely different look than the Ravens. 1 hour ago, theAteam said: With Dupree and Watt they don't need to blitz. They get the necessary pressure on their own. 57 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They disguise the rush very well but they don’t bring an extra rusher with too much frequency. They do get plenty of sacks... No one blitzes like Ravens, but Steelers are 6th highest blitzing team. They're in the same ballpark as Jets & Browns, and Allen didn't particularly play well against those defenses. FWIW, Steelers defensive game plan dialed up a lot of blitzes against Kyler, and don't be surprised that they do the same against another QB who struggles with pressure. OTOH, despite being ranked high, I'm not that impressed with Steelers D as they've feasted on a lot of bad QB play. If the good Josh makes an appearance, Steelers are toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 hours ago, mannc said: Feel free to disagree. I’ve watched a lot of Steeler games this year; it’s a really talented group and it’s a big reason the Steelers haven’t fallen on their face despite being down to playing a third-string undrafted rookie QB. How big of a reason is THEIR F***ING INSANE DEFENSE?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, metzelaars_lives said: How big of a reason is THEIR F***ING INSANE DEFENSE?!?!? I agree; they have a real good defense, but the offense has still managed to score points, despite starting an undrafted free agent from Samford--not Stanford. That wouldn't happen if there weren't some very good pieces in place around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Marcel L-J interviewed about Bills-Steelers on ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I just read Joe B's assessment and I was pretty shocked he picked the Steelers. His assertion is essentially that on film, the Steelers are the most talented defense the Bills have faced all season and that Allen hasn't learned a thing since NE, essentially. *shrug* I expect the Ravens, NE, and the 49ers would all have something to say about that "Steelers are the Best Defense in Football" thing, and I disagree with Joe's film assessments at times when I know I'm watching the same plays he's watching. We'll see. Joe B claims an 11-2 record with his predictions but going back, I can't find all his weekly predictions in his Athletic articles. Anyone else? His two incorrect predictions were the Browns and Patriots, I believe. Picked Bills to win in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Logic said: His two incorrect predictions were the Browns and Patriots, I believe. Picked Bills to win in both. That's surprising. I found the Browns on the Athletic website archives. Where does he make his predictions generally? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 bad news if Feliciano is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's surprising. I found the Browns on the Athletic website archives. Where does he make his predictions generally? His weekly pre-game preview on The Athletic. Down at the bottom of the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, Logic said: His weekly pre-game preview on The Athletic. Down at the bottom of the article. It may just be my incompetence, but can’t find Joe B pre-game preview for all games on Athletic site. No huge deal. A lot of his predictions are very close, way closer than the games turned out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I just read Joe B's assessment and I was pretty shocked he picked the Steelers. His assertion is essentially that on film, the Steelers are the most talented defense the Bills have faced all season and that Allen hasn't learned a thing since NE, essentially. *shrug* I expect the Ravens, NE, and the 49ers would all have something to say about that "Steelers are the Best Defense in Football" thing, and I disagree with Joe's film assessments at times when I know I'm watching the same plays he's watching. We'll see. Joe B claims an 11-2 record with his predictions but going back, I can't find all his weekly predictions in his Athletic articles. Anyone else? In Joe BS defense, whether he says it or not, he hates Allen so he assumes the worst showing he can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Logic said: His two incorrect predictions were the Browns and Patriots, I believe. Picked Bills to win in both. I thought he picked the Jets to win and the Browns to lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I thought he picked the Jets to win and the Browns to lose. You're correct. My mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Say When... said: i shouldn't be but i'm shocked at the number of talking heads, rags, internet LAMP/attention-whores, "expert" bloggers calling the Steelers in this one, it just doesn't add up. I'll give "toss up" or "flip a coin" but the crap i'm hearing has very little justification with the exception of "it's in Pittsburgh". and you know, no amount of victory will validate the Bills, it'll be "oh, they have a 3rd String QB" and "JJSS didn't play and Connors was not 100%". Who cares about justification. When and in baby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 The interesting thing about this week’s game is I bet both team’s fans would tell you their team is better both offensively and defensively. Gonna be really interesting to see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: but, but he's a waste on the roster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: but, but he's a waste on the roster Lol. Yeah. I pasted this in that thread too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Great! Now can he stay his a** in the end zone on kick offs? Constantly costs us field position bringing it out. ? He’s free to do what he wants on punt returns though. He’s had a bit more success with those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: The interesting thing about this week’s game is I bet both team’s fans would tell you their team is better both offensively and defensively. Gonna be really interesting to see how it plays out. How do Pitts fans get to “better offensively”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/34057/bills-dogs-shaq-lawson-and-jordan-phillips-setting-tone-for-defense defensive end Shaq Lawson and defensive tackle Jordan Phillips have a specific role on what's been a dominant defensive line this season. That role goes beyond the X's and O's -- they help set a tone. Lawson and Phillips have each enjoyed the best statistical seasons of their careers in what's also a contract year for both players. It's not a guarantee they will return to Buffalo next season but they're building a difficult case for the Bills' front office to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: but, but he's a waste on the roster It’s apparent you didn’t read through the entire thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/34057/bills-dogs-shaq-lawson-and-jordan-phillips-setting-tone-for-defense defensive end Shaq Lawson and defensive tackle Jordan Phillips have a specific role on what's been a dominant defensive line this season. That role goes beyond the X's and O's -- they help set a tone. Lawson and Phillips have each enjoyed the best statistical seasons of their careers in what's also a contract year for both players. It's not a guarantee they will return to Buffalo next season but they're building a difficult case for the Bills' front office to ignore. Ill be sad if either one of these players don't get their next contract here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 anyone know where I could get that Union Jack Bills logo hoodie the dude is wearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, rayray808 said: anyone know where I could get that Union Jack Bills logo hoodie the dude is wearing? Looks home made to me, with the emblems sewed on after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Say When... said: i shouldn't be but i'm shocked at the number of talking heads, rags, internet LAMP/attention-whores, "expert" bloggers calling the Steelers in this one, it just doesn't add up. I'll give "toss up" or "flip a coin" but the crap i'm hearing has very little justification with the exception of "it's in Pittsburgh". and you know, no amount of victory will validate the Bills, it'll be "oh, they have a 3rd String QB" and "JJSS didn't play and Connors was not 100%". Agree. Same as when they all called for Dallas was going to put a whoopin on the Bills, only difference is Dallas had all their starters for the most part and they are calling the Steelers with their 3rd string QB. Only think I can think of is it's because the Steelers are at home is maybe the reason, but still Bills are a pretty darn good road team and normally (so far this year) have bounced back very well after a loss. But yeah, if the Bills do win that's exactly what they will say, "Ben was out and they were on their 3rd string QB". 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How do Pitts fans get to “better offensively”? Because it's who they are (most of them anyway), I know a couple in my area who have chalked this game up as an easy win already. But if they lose they will say "well Ben was out and Juju" But yet they are already swearing up and down this is a gimme game for them. In other words "cakewalk" for the Steelers. Edited December 14, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, rayray808 said: anyone know where I could get that Union Jack Bills logo hoodie the dude is wearing? That's Nick, he tailgates near the Pinto in Hammer's lot. I think it's home made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, TPS said: It’s apparent you didn’t read through the entire thread. maybe you missed his point? 47 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Ill be sad if either one of these players don't get their next contract here. $90 million to spend. magic 8 balls says Looks Promising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Tesla03 said: bad news if Feliciano is out. Yep. Although, as someone posted in another thread, it looks like the exterior of the Steelers D is better than the interior. (small sliver of a silver lining) 3 hours ago, DCOrange said: The interesting thing about this week’s game is I bet both team’s fans would tell you their team is better both offensively and defensively. Gonna be really interesting to see how it plays out. I mean, Steelers fans can claim that, but I don't think they have any objective foot to stand on with that... Really on either side. Edited December 14, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: maybe you missed his point? $90 million to spend. magic 8 balls says Looks Promising As I stated further in that thread, And related it to other similar threads, the issue is the trade off of who to dress for the 46. Duke gives the Bills something they don’t have on the 46, and I questioned whether Roberts ST contribution was worth it? I agreed with another poster in the thread that the trade off is probably more appropriately focused on foster or McKenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001087443/article/long-overdue-bills-ready-for-sunday-night-return Quote Sunday will mark the Bills' return to "SNF" for the first time since all the way back in Week 11 of the 2007 season, which marked their sixth straight loss on Sunday night, per NFL Research. Not since the first week of this century's first season have the Bills won a Sunday nighter. And the last time Buffalo beat Pittsburgh was even longer ago, ranging all the way back to Week 5 of 1999. The Steelers have won six straight against the Bills. Just how long ago Buffalo found itself on a Sunday night can also be measured in Pittsburgh success, once again via NFL Research. Since the last time the Bills played on a Sunday night, the Steelershave appeared in front of the "SNF" audience on 38 occasions and won a pair of Super Bowls. Quote With running back Trey Edmunds and safety Terrell Edmunds on the Steelers roster, they'll compete against brother and Bills linebacker Tremaine Edmunds. It will be the first known NFL game in 92 years with three brothers in the same game, as the last time was believed to have taken place in 1927 when Joe, Cobb and Bill Rooney played for the Duluth Eskimos. So seldom are the Bills on Sunday night that Duluth Eskimos references are once again to be had. Sorry if this was already posted. Long overdue is right. Hopefully the Bills take advantage of the opportunity. Normally I’m worried about the Bills ******** the bed when they play in prime time (and that’s still a slight fear), but, after that thanksgiving day performance, I’m more excited than anything this time to see how they do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, TPS said: It’s apparent you didn’t read through the entire thread. title said enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Was? Shouldn't that read 'is' Come on bills twitter Edited December 14, 2019 by Cheektowaga Chad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott7975 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Found this on rotoworld. Thought others would like to see it... Looks like their weak spots passing wise are against their LBers and Safeties. Their corners are good. Edited December 14, 2019 by Scott7975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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