BigBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 All around the NFL, every week, every team, players make a big play. I feel like if it isn't Allen or Singletary, NOBODY helps out. I mean if the ball isn't right between the numbers, it's a drop - and often, we drop those too. It's OK to catch a bad pass once and a while (players do it all the time). Or make ONE guy miss and break a big TD. We have zero game breakers. Maybe run hard through a deep ball? Someone? Anyone? Next draft needs to be only weapons. 2 more complaints - 1. can we please tell Robert's that he actually sucks now? He isn't breaking anything. If the ball goes into the end zone, he needs to kneel it down. 2. why the f%&* is Gore ever on the field at this point? Every single time he's out there, it's a throw away play. The defense (and everyone on the planet) knows exactly what we are doing and it never works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 No. They are not making plays. It’s the perfect storm of failure. Gore should retire tomorrow and Roberts should be cut. /end thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: No. They are not making plays. It’s the perfect storm of failure. Gore should retire tomorrow and Roberts should be cut. /end thread Special teams has been struggling all year, in every facet at some point. Roberts should’ve kept it in the end zone mainly because the protection is allowing free lanes to tackle him as he’s trying to get up the field. But he consistently tried to break the big one, only to not get very much. The OP brings up a good point, not only are we lacking play makers, but we’re lacking consistency and reliability from key positions. Knox has boom or bust potential on every play.....He drops the easy pass and later makes the incredible one handed reception ??♂️ Beasley has to catch the dropped 3rd down pass. The inability to be reliable is what’s beyond frustrating to me. Just make the fundamental plays and the big ones will come, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, KellyToTasker said: Special teams has been struggling all year, in every facet at some point. Roberts should’ve kept it in the end zone mainly because the protection is allowing free lanes to tackle him as he’s trying to get up the field. But he consistently tried to break the big one, only to not get very much. The OP brings up a good point, not only are we lacking play makers, but we’re lacking consistency and reliability from key positions. Knox has boom or bust potential on every play.....He drops the easy pass and later makes the incredible one handed reception ??♂️ Beasley has to catch the dropped 3rd down pass. The inability to be reliable is what’s beyond frustrating to me. Just make the fundamental plays and the big ones will come, eventually. I would like to think they told Roberts to run everything out. I can’t see mcdermott allowing him to constantly give us bad field position all game and not flipping out if he’s doing it on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It's time to stop the rotation at RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, BigBobby said: All around the NFL, every week, every team, players make a big play. I feel like if it isn't Allen or Singletary, NOBODY helps out. I mean if the ball isn't right between the numbers, it's a drop - and often, we drop those too. It's OK to catch a bad pass once and a while (players do it all the time). Hard point to argue after a game where Allen routinely threw uncatchable balls. This was one of his worst games of the season from that standpoint. Daboll refusing to keep running the ball down their throats when their throats were wide open is beyond me. Allen threw WAY TO MANY TIMES in this game. Running between the tackles was working. It was almost like Daboll wanted to get too cute and out thunk himself. So what if they know it a run. They couldnt stop it! TOO MANY PASSES ON 1ST DOWNS!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 We have plenty of guys on offense who CAN make big plays. Beasley has made a bunch this year, I'd consider his TD & 2pt coversion today big plays. Knox has made several, including the 1-handed catch today, but probably has as many huge drops as big plays. Hopefully that's just rookie stuff. Brown has cooled off the the past few games, but obviously has many big plays for us. Even McKenzie has had a couple. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, 947 said: We have plenty of guys on offense who CAN make big plays. Beasley has made a bunch this year, I'd consider his TD & 2pt coversion today big plays. Knox has made several, including the 1-handed catch today, but probably has as many huge drops as big plays. Hopefully that's just rookie stuff. Brown has cooled off the the past few games, but obviously has many big plays for us. Even McKenzie has had a couple. Sure guys catch balls. That's obvious. But I'm talking about the plays that aren't right there. The great catch that doesn't hit the receiver in the numbers, the broken tackle for a huge play, etc. Sometimes somebody other than the qb and young RB need to break a big one wide open. We are only scoring on slow, methodical drives that require either Allen to be perfect or Devin to break some nice runs. McKenzie hasn't done sh$# other than a couple reverses. He's basically useless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 JA Cost us this game plain and simple he did not make any plays either. I could tell it in his eyes in the very beginning this game was too big for him He is really starting to trouble me. We could have ourselves a real choker on our hands. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: JA Cost us this game plain and simple he did not make any plays either. I could tell it in his eyes in the very beginning this game was too big for him He is really starting to trouble me. We could have ourselves a real choker on our hands. You meant to post this on your "Barkley1QB" account. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I keep saying to get Yeldon active and going. He can make big plays on checkdowns out of the backfield. McKenzie has made a lot of big plays abd Beasley makes big plays almost every week. Brown has had a great season but he needs Allen to hit him in stride to really change the game. He’s always forced to come back to the ball. Singletary needs to be the main focus of the offense, he’s that good. Singletary should be our Mccaffrey. Someone just needs to take Frank Gore away from Dabol so he will stop playing with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: You meant to post this on your "Barkley1QB" account. That was pretty funny but seriously we might have won if he had started. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Duke can, but.... won’t activate him, let’s see, the last two games they played him in he caught all but one pass thrown to him.... yeah he should be a healthy scratch from that point forward, it makes sense.. frustrating that they don’t like a wr that can make contested catches, and block... Go Bills!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 OP makes a good point. But Knox did make that one big play today. good teams though have playmakers at the skill spots that make big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 59 minutes ago, 947 said: Knox has made several, including the 1-handed catch today, but probably has as many huge drops as big plays. Hopefully that's just rookie stuff. Way more drops. He's made 2 really nice catches and has at least 8-10 drops. Today he was pathetic. Crucial situations and the ball bounces off his chest TWICE!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: JA Cost us this game plain and simple he did not make any plays either. I could tell it in his eyes in the very beginning this game was too big for him He is really starting to trouble me. We could have ourselves a real choker on our hands. Typical Buffalo attitude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Beasley dropped a huge pass and Knox did as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, 947 said: We have plenty of guys on offense who CAN make big plays. Beasley has made a bunch this year, I'd consider his TD & 2pt coversion today big plays. Knox has made several, including the 1-handed catch today, but probably has as many huge drops as big plays. Hopefully that's just rookie stuff. Brown has cooled off the the past few games, but obviously has many big plays for us. Even McKenzie has had a couple. They need more talent at WR, all along the OL, and next year at draft time I hope fans remember this game when the decision is there to select offense or defense. A team predicated on playing strong defense without a top notch offense will struggle against more well-rounded teams like Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: That was pretty funny but seriously we might have won if he had started. Jeez, I have to block another one. Oh well the experience just gets better... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 We don't have enough playmakers and we won't until next year. Our worthless ST have failed to make 1 big play all year. This team is still a work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I came into this year thinking (hoping) we were really going to utilize our TEs. But I have seen nothing from them. I'm not an Xs and Os guy so I don't know whether they aren't getting open, but it's so dissapointing seeing Knox getting only 3 targets (I'm sure part of it is his dropsies he's been having). Kroft was decent for Cinci (when healthy) and yet with us, he's nothing. Can someone who pays more attention to the play calls inform me whether it's play design or if they just aren't getting the looks by Allen? I guess Sweeney must not be that good? I was really hoping we would just play the two rooks in two TE sets and let them build something with Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, KellyToTasker said: Special teams has been struggling all year, in every facet at some point. Roberts should’ve kept it in the end zone mainly because the protection is allowing free lanes to tackle him as he’s trying to get up the field. But he consistently tried to break the big one, only to not get very much. The OP brings up a good point, not only are we lacking play makers, but we’re lacking consistency and reliability from key positions. Knox has boom or bust potential on every play.....He drops the easy pass and later makes the incredible one handed reception ??♂️ Beasley has to catch the dropped 3rd down pass. The inability to be reliable is what’s beyond frustrating to me. Just make the fundamental plays and the big ones will come, eventually. What drives me nuts is that the gunners NEVER jam the coverage guys and always give them a free release to the inside on punts. It is by design and I can’t figure it out for the life of me. Are they trying to create sideline openings??? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F¥}£???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Jeez, I have to block another one. Oh well the experience just gets better... Bye Bye Meathead.....I mean Meatloaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ALLEN1QB said: JA Cost us this game plain and simple he did not make any plays either. I could tell it in his eyes in the very beginning this game was too big for him He is really starting to trouble me. We could have ourselves a real choker on our hands. I guess hitting Beasely and Knox with perfect passes on third down to have them be dropped was on Josh. Two drives ended right there or did I miss something. We need receivers to go up and get the ball, with their hands. 33 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Way more drops. He's made 2 really nice catches and has at least 8-10 drops. Today he was pathetic. Crucial situations and the ball bounces off his chest TWICE!! He drops the easy stuff and then makes a one armed circus grab. Efffing infuriating? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: JA Cost us this game plain and simple he did not make any plays either. I could tell it in his eyes in the very beginning this game was too big for him He is really starting to trouble me. We could have ourselves a real choker on our hands. Sooooo, what color were Josh’s eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: That was pretty funny but seriously we might have won if he had started. Lmao you are quite something. He would've been slaughtered behind that Line. Allen played like ***** for sure. The Oline was worse tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Dawson Knox had a pretty catch on a big play. Not enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I keep saying to get Yeldon active and going. He can make big plays on checkdowns out of the backfield. McKenzie has made a lot of big plays abd Beasley makes big plays almost every week. Brown has had a great season but he needs Allen to hit him in stride to really change the game. He’s always forced to come back to the ball. Singletary needs to be the main focus of the offense, he’s that good. Singletary should be our Mccaffrey. Someone just needs to take Frank Gore away from Dabol so he will stop playing with it. Good point... we need McCaffrey!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, StHustle said: Hard point to argue after a game where Allen routinely threw uncatchable balls. This was one of his worst games of the season from that standpoint. Daboll refusing to keep running the ball down their throats when their throats were wide open is beyond me. Allen threw WAY TO MANY TIMES in this game. Running between the tackles was working. It was almost like Daboll wanted to get too cute and out thunk himself. So what if they know it a run. They couldnt stop it! TOO MANY PASSES ON 1ST DOWNS!!! I am not nearly as hard on Daboll as many around here are... But we should be using a much more Allen/Run centered offense than we do. The only dangerous thing Allen does is run; he's great at it. We should be using him as a runner constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 There have been big plays by guys this year - just not consistently. Beasley has made plays. Knox has made plays. Brown has made plays. Tre has made plays - two very difficult interceptions come to mind. Lawson has made a few - mostly hustle plays and not pure athleticism plays The OP's point is well taken though. To win in this league you have to do much more than just execute a routine play. Guys make insane plays every game all over this league. Bills don't have the superior athletes on the field to do it. Singletary has average speed. No receiver has elite size or elite hands. Only Knox breaks tackles and that only happens IF he manages to catch the ball. JA needs to figure out the deep ball. Guys are getting open deep. It's more than just annoying at this point. It's really become a critical problem. Teams are willing to blitz him relentlessly because they know even if blocked he can't make them pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: JA Cost us this game plain and simple he did not make any plays either. I could tell it in his eyes in the very beginning this game was too big for him He is really starting to trouble me. We could have ourselves a real choker on our hands. Our OL was the issue, JA had no time all game. Not his fault if he has no time. It always seems like the QB but the line needs to help more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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