Message from McDermott to team: “Play Fearless”

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

I'm sure that's a great message and I hope the guys just come out and KILL IT this weekend against Miami

 

When I read "Play fearless" though I think this

or going back a ways

this

 

 

[NoSaint]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

the real trick is to not pull back immediately after a few mistakes. 

[OZBILLS]

5 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

the real trick is to not pull back immediately after a few mistakes. 

Fully commit, like Peterman.

 

Don't let 3 INT's get you down. Keep slinging it

[billsfan89]

It is a fine line between fearless and reckless. Aggressive and stupid is often just the difference in results and outcomes. Hopefully Josh is ready to be a bit more aggressive. 

[The Bills Blog]

Everyone is clamoring for this, and then they'll be clamoring for them to pull things back once Josh throws some more INTs.

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

but at end of the day played for a 53 yard FG to tie

So McD does this mean you are going to actually go for Points at end of half instead of kneeling it out?

 

They didn't play for a tie. I find it funny some people are criticizing the 20 yard throw in 3rd and 4 and others are criticizing them for playing too conservative. I mean I think they made a good play call and it just wasn't executed right. I don't think they intentionally trying to get a field goal.

[london_bills]

4 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

Everyone is clamoring for this, and then they'll be clamoring for them to pull things back once Josh throws some more INTs.

Yes I do think that developing Allen and winning games will not always go together. Its tricky. 

 

Picks are less an issue for me then the fumbles. 

3 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Yes I do think that developing Allen and winning games will not always go to together. Its tricky. 

 

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

They didn't play for a tie. I find it funny some people are criticizing the 20 yard throw in 3rd and 4 and others are criticizing them for playing too conservative. I mean I think they made a good play call and it just wasn't executed right. I don't think they intentionally trying to get a field goal.

If Allen connects to brown and the bills make the FG this whole perception of Allen changes. Esp if the bills won. 

Edited November 14, 2019 by london_bills

[NoSaint]

10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

They didn't play for a tie. I find it funny some people are criticizing the 20 yard throw in 3rd and 4 and others are criticizing them for playing too conservative. I mean I think they made a good play call and it just wasn't executed right. I don't think they intentionally trying to get a field goal.

It’s a lot of context and admittedly we have little access to that info.

 

if on 3rd we call a bomb to beasley its a little aggressive. But if the player is scared to make a mistake despite a pick being a punt and he throws an uncatchable ball due to that aversion to risk - it’s bad culture. 

Fumbles or lack of awareness are exhausting to watch. One thing that drove me nuts with Tyrod discussions here was people saying he didn’t make mistakes but often times not throwing the tough ball is a much bigger mistake than throwing it and ending up a pick.

 

Throwing a contested ball deep on 3rd that gets picked is low risk high reward.... even if it flops.

Edited November 14, 2019 by NoSaint

[Rocket94]

20 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Yes I do think that developing Allen and winning games will not always go together. Its tricky. 

 

Picks are less an issue for me then the fumbles. 

 

If Allen connects to brown and the bills make the FG this whole perception of Allen changes. Esp if the bills won. 

 If Hauschka makes that field goal, the conversation changes. The Bills would have won, but it would have further repressed the need for improvement on both sides of the ball. How many more wake up calls do the Bills need?.

[london_bills]

1 minute ago, Rocket94 said:

 If Hauschka makes that field goal, the conversation changes. The Bills would have won, but it would have further repressed the need for improvement on both sides of the ball. How many more wake up calls do the Bills need?.

Absolutely.

Would have made a difference to the perception of allen though I think. He does it again in the 4th qtr after a poor game. 

[Rocket94]

1 minute ago, london_bills said:

Absolutely.

Would have made a difference to the perception of allen though I think. He does it again in the 4th qtr after a poor game. 

True, but I like Allen. Everything has a way of showing its true self eventually.

[Tesla03]

13 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

 If Hauschka makes that field goal, the conversation changes. The Bills would have won, but it would have further repressed the need for improvement on both sides of the ball. How many more wake up calls do the Bills need?.

 

the FG was to send it to OT . we don't know we would have won. 

[Dr.Sack]

I don’t believe playing fearless is the right thing to tell your players. Is that to suggest the past month they’ve been playing fearful? Like are they seeing ghosts? I believe McD should have said play to the best of your ability and be aggressive. You all have talent. Play your assignment, do your job, and when the time comes and the play comes to you, use all your training and ability and make a play. 

[Rocket94]

4 minutes ago, Tesla03 said:

 

the FG was to send it to OT . we don't know we would have won. 

I know...but based on this unpredictable season...a fg may have brought the Bills back to life.

[atlbillsfan1975]

2 hours ago, JohnnyGold said:

 

Right.

20 games into his career?

Sounds like they're hoping he's absorbed enough instruction that some things can go on "auto pilot" now, and he can play looser. He needs to know how long the leash is.

 

Define a "blow out"

NYJ 41-10

Miami 42-17

Minnie 27-6

How do you define a blow out?

[transplantbillsfan]

It's one thing for McDermott to say that, but it's another thing for him to coach it.

 

Guess we'll see.

[reddogblitz]

11 hours ago, golfball323 said:

This is the type of message that can be confusing to players. McDermott is conservative in nature and coaches that way. He's been successful coaching that way. Rolling the dice now and saying, "Play Fearless" goes against a lot of the messages that he's sent to these players in the last three years. 

 

We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

His philosophy had worked 6 out of 9 times this year.  3rd best record in the AFC.  I suspect he was talking to the players in what they do.  Not what he and the coaching staff will do.  Key word "play". Coaches don't play.

 

We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

His philosophy had worked 6 out of 9 times this year.  3rd best record in the AFC.  I suspect he was talking to the players in what they do.  Not what he and the coaching staff will do.  Key word "play". Coaches don't play.

 

We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Unfortunately they don't hand out Super Bowls, or even playoff appearances, for records after 9 games.

 

We'll see where they stand after 16.

 

Critical discussion of McDermott/the team at this point in time relates to the probability of us making the playoffs, or having any success in them should we get there.

 

 

[ALF]

@ChrisBrownBills
From Josh Allen today: “Coach sat us all down & said, ‘Play fearless.’ To have that green light & that confidence from him means a lot. That’s not to say I’m going out there to be reckless. Just being very aware of what’s going on, but not being gun shy about anything.” #Bills

 

Daboll says NO

[Buffalo Barbarian]

14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Watching Chris Brown everyday, i have become a fan of his. Knowledgeable about the game and has the pulse of the team being at practice every day. I agree with what he says that they need to run more even if there is 8 men in the box, because if you dont all the defense has to do is stack the box and then they know you will pass thus knowing what you are going to do and attacking accordingly.

 

As far as McDermott goes its exactly the right message this team needs as many players have been playing tight fearing mistakes, which is stifling their play making ability. Hopefully they respond with aggressiveness and productivity.

 

 

[3rdand12]

20 hours ago, NoSaint said:

It’s a lot of context and admittedly we have little access to that info.

 

if on 3rd we call a bomb to beasley its a little aggressive. But if the player is scared to make a mistake despite a pick being a punt and he throws an uncatchable ball due to that aversion to risk - it’s bad culture. 

Fumbles or lack of awareness are exhausting to watch. One thing that drove me nuts with Turks discussions here was people saying he didn’t make mistakes but often times not throwing the tough ball is a much bigger mistake than throwing it and ending up a pick.

 

Throwing a contested ball deep on 3rd that gets picked is low risk high reward.... even if it flops.

I think this defines the fearless bit as directed towards Allen.

McD i hope has coached his players to make that tackle if the pick occurs !

 

 

   Allen can throw farther than the punter can punt  lol

Edited November 14, 2019 by 3rdand12

[Wayne Arnold]

15 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

Yawn, coachspeak

 

Nah, it’s not coach-speak if it’s coach-to-player.

 

This is the best news I’ve seen in a while.

 

I’m encouraged.

[atlbillsfan1975]

11 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

They didn't play for a tie. I find it funny some people are criticizing the 20 yard throw in 3rd and 4 and others are criticizing them for playing too conservative. I mean I think they made a good play call and it just wasn't executed right. I don't think they intentionally trying to get a field goal.

It was the clock management that makes some people, myself included, question the intentions. The play call wasn’t the issue. It appeared Josh was running the no huddle pretty good and had some rhythm. To then huddle, stand around and allow roughly 20 seconds to tick away is the issue . I also like the back shoulder pass to be completed when it is more in the natural flow of the drive. 
my two cents.

4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

His philosophy had worked 6 out of 9 times this year.  3rd best record in the AFC.  I suspect he was talking to the players in what they do.  Not what he and the coaching staff will do.  Key word "play". Coaches don't play.

 

We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ok, but who stoped the offense on Sunday during the last drive?

Fearless is a mindset. I would argue that for a mindset to truly be adopted by all needed,  it must be displayed by all. In fact it must first displayed by the coaches to show players the way. 
you can’t have a conservative approach and then expect those executing the plan to play differently. 

Edited November 14, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975

[MAJBobby]

10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

They didn't play for a tie. I find it funny some people are criticizing the 20 yard throw in 3rd and 4 and others are criticizing them for playing too conservative. I mean I think they made a good play call and it just wasn't executed right. I don't think they intentionally trying to get a field goal.

they absolutely did. Look at two playcalls before that. And Josh Changed the play. Jesus McD even said post game they were playing for the Tie. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

19 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Nah, it’s not coach-speak if it’s coach-to-player.

 

This is the best news I’ve seen in a while.

 

I’m encouraged.

 

Color me surprised!!! 

[wppete]

Great to hear. Josh Allen needs to play more like last year, fearless! 

[SoTier]

16 hours ago, BillsVet said:

Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share.  Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today  Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD.   

 

Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations.  DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism.

 

My first thought when I saw the thread title was pretty much this.   This is all PR, however:  "all sound and fury signifying nothing".   It's not going to change how McDermott or his OC coaches.

[ProcessYaDigg]

Great, more Josh Allen fumbles

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

      

 

 

 

[BillnutinHouston]

13 hours ago, Chaos said:

1. against the browns Allen through it 50 yards in the air on  a third and three.  honestly seems fearless enough to me

 

Point well taken!

[MAJBobby]

11 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Everyone is clamoring for this, and then they'll be clamoring for them to pull things back once Josh throws some more INTs.

Only ones concerned about the INTs were the Coaches and the media 

[John Gianelli]

17 hours ago, colin said:

play FEARLESSLY.  im not a fan of how nouns, verbs, and adverbs just all get the same morphology.  

Yes, I'd like to tell McDermott "Speak Correct!"

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Only ones concerned about the INTs were the Coaches and the media 

 

You must not have been on this board during the early part of the season, been on twitter, or listened to a word coming out of Josh Allen's mouth. That is intensely wrong. 

[MAJBobby]

23 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

You must not have been on this board during the early part of the season, been on twitter, or listened to a word coming out of Josh Allen's mouth. That is intensely wrong. 

 

I was.

 

Dont care what the MEDIA Says

Yep Josh says that because McD is concerned.

 

Name me a game that we lost because he through a Pick.  Only people that cared about Picks are those that refuse to look at the real data and just want to cling to an old clique.  New flash QBs throw INTs

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

I was.

 

Dont care what the MEDIA Says

Yep Josh says that because McD is concerned.

 

Name me a game that we lost because he through a Pick.  Only people that cared about Picks are those that refuse to look at the real data and just want to cling to an old clique.  New flash QBs throw INTs

 

I can't tell you when he "through" a pick that lost us a game, but I can tell you the interceptions against the Pats were the primary reason we lost that game. 

 

That's cool you are of that opinion. As a matter of fact, I think the same thing.  I'd rather see him play fast and loose, and I also think the best QBs throw interceptions. And when I said that on this board, I got like five "confused" emojis. What you are doing right now, though, is obvious revisionism. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

lol  Auto correct loving the word "through" the past day or so   

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Name me a game that we lost because he through a Pick.  Only people that cared about Picks are those that refuse to look at the real data and just want to cling to an old clique.  New flash QBs throw INTs

 

NE I believe.  

[MAJBobby]

Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I can't tell you when he "through" a pick that lost us a game, but I can tell you the interceptions against the Pats were the primary reason we lost that game. 

 

That's cool you are of that opinion. As a matter of fact, I think the same thing.  I'd rather see him play fast and loose, and I also think the best QBs throw interceptions. And when I said that on this board, I got like five "confused" emojis. What you are doing right now, though, is obvious revisionism. 

 

So he didn't  thanks.  Actually the Primary reason we lost the game in NE is a blocked punt that resulted from DiMarco not doing the ONE thing he is here for.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Josh got off to a rocky start but learning to throw it away verses throwing an INT is big in my book. 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

lol  Auto correct loving the word "through" the past day or so   

 

NE I believe.  

 

Blocked punt I believe

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I can't tell you when he "through" a pick that lost us a game, but I can tell you the interceptions against the Pats were the primary reason we lost that game. 

 

That's cool you are of that opinion. As a matter of fact, I think the same thing.  I'd rather see him play fast and loose, and I also think the best QBs throw interceptions. And when I said that on this board, I got like five "confused" emojis. What you are doing right now, though, is obvious revisionism. 

 

correcting typos and or obvious Autocorrect words tells me a lot about the person calling it out