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Niagara Street at Tonawanda St. and the Scajaquada off ramp, there’s a Buffalo railroad overpass that catches trucks every now and again.  There’s also Austin St.,  and some low ones in the Bailey Ave. / William St. area.

 

A coworker had also been a transport driver, he explained that a lot of these bridge / truck accidents were by drivers blindly following navigation programs and devices that were configured for cars.  The commercial versions that factor in transport trucks are not used due to excess cost.  Then again, a professional driver should be looking for signage on the route being taken.  Understandable (but not excusable) for the U-Haul or Ryder renter that slips up.

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3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Been under that one with a train going over it.  Talk about a "right there" feeling hearing and seeing a couple of locomotives ramble along.

That’s the bridge where 4 Megabus passengers died after the driver got lost heading NYC to Toronto in 2012.

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2 hours ago, Gray Beard said:

I’ve never understood why they can’t hang something that will give way that is the same height as the bridge about 50 feet ahead of the bridge so that people will be warned

 

Even with that, they need that last second line of defense to protect the bridge.  Also, with the intersection right there, that advanced warning marker doesn't work for anyone who turns there.  Can you really put up something on those streets too that would be hit even by the trucks that have no intention of turning?

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21 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

Even with that, they need that last second line of defense to protect the bridge.  Also, with the intersection right there, that advanced warning marker doesn't work for anyone who turns there.  Can you really put up something on those streets too that would be hit even by the trucks that have no intention of turning?

I agree that for this bridge the approach from the intersection is pretty short. I still think some sort of warning a few feet farther from the bridge would be possible.  

In Syracuse on the Onondaga Lake Parkway there is plenty of room for a warning device, and I’ve never understood why they don’t do something. For example, hang vertical lengths of chains that might scratch your vehicle but it won’t be as catastrophic as hitting the bridge.  

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like blaring alarms and airhorns and flashing lights and tons of signs...oh wait, onondaga lake parkway has all of that and drivers still ignore them

 

38 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

I agree that for this bridge the approach from the intersection is pretty short. I still think some sort of warning a few feet farther from the bridge would be possible.  

In Syracuse on the Onondaga Lake Parkway there is plenty of room for a warning device, and I’ve never understood why they don’t do something. For example, hang vertical lengths of chains that might scratch your vehicle but it won’t be as catastrophic as hitting the bridge.  

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The Rosler  Street bridge near where we he 190 meets the 90Has been close for monthsv has been close for months    It’s over the Thruway so it’s nice and high but an idiot drove under it with the truck bed up and damaged it. 

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

What I've learned here today is as a financial planner it is not just my job to make sure people retire with plenty of money but to also make sure they identify what meaningful things they will do during their retirement.  

Somehow, I think there’s an insult lurking in that somewhere...?

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

What I've learned here today is as a financial planner it is not just my job to make sure people retire with plenty of money but to also make sure they identify what meaningful things they will do during their retirement.  

Well, if you're going to insist on maintaining an incredibly outdated investment plan rather than rebuilding it to be useful in the modern age...

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7 hours ago, Gray Beard said:

I agree that for this bridge the approach from the intersection is pretty short. I still think some sort of warning a few feet farther from the bridge would be possible.  

In Syracuse on the Onondaga Lake Parkway there is plenty of room for a warning device, and I’ve never understood why they don’t do something. For example, hang vertical lengths of chains that might scratch your vehicle but it won’t be as catastrophic as hitting the bridge.  

 

So the 12 or so signs before the bridge is not enough? 

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5 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

So the 12 or so signs before the bridge is not enough? 

Apparently not. 

Just like you, I’ve been there, and I’m familiar with the area. I worked near there for over 20 years. 

As you know, for some reason there are accidents there more often than there should be.

That Megabus crash was really awful. It just makes me think there should be some way to do something more, but I don’t know what that would be. 

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6 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

Apparently not. 

Just like you, I’ve been there, and I’m familiar with the area. I worked near there for over 20 years. 

As you know, for some reason there are accidents there more often than there should be.

That Megabus crash was really awful. It just makes me think there should be some way to do something more, but I don’t know what that would be. 

 

They did put in that laser warning system with the electronic signs. But that does not help when the driver does not speak/read English like the latest one. 

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When I moved from LA to Long Island I was driving a U-Haul dragging a Citroen DS on a trailer behind. I'm not admitting to be driving under the influence at the time, but let's just say I have NO idea how I ended up on a 'No Trucks or Commercial Vehicles" parkway. It didn't even register until I saw the first overpass. I can't remember the exact height, but  it was an inch or so higher than my vehicle. The overpass was lower on the two ends, and higher in the middle, so I figured "the height listed must be the lowest possible", so I moved between the two lanes and hit the middle and just held my breath. I had one or two more to go before I got the hell off that parkway.

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58 minutes ago, The Dean said:

When I moved from LA to Long Island I was driving a U-Haul dragging a Citroen DS on a trailer behind. I'm not admitting to be driving under the influence at the time, but let's just say I have NO idea how I ended up on a 'No Trucks or Commercial Vehicles" parkway. It didn't even register until I saw the first overpass. I can't remember the exact height, but  it was an inch or so higher than my vehicle. The overpass was lower on the two ends, and higher in the middle, so I figured "the height listed must be the lowest possible", so I moved between the two lanes and hit the middle and just held my breath. I had one or two more to go before I got the hell off that parkway.

 

You wouldn't have been the first to hit one of Robert Moses' bridges, it's not that uncommon. I've seen the roof of a semi-trailer peeled back like a tin of sardines. This one was pretty bad:

 

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/southern-state-bus-crash-victims-1.17949678

 

Supposedly they're putting  height sensors on some of the on ramps:

 

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-installation-over-height-vehicle-detectors-prevent-bridge-strikes-long 

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57 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

You wouldn't have been the first to hit one of Robert Moses' bridges, it's not that uncommon. I've seen the roof of a semi-trailer peeled back like a tin of sardines. This one was pretty bad:

 

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/southern-state-bus-crash-victims-1.17949678

 

Supposedly they're putting  height sensors on some of the on ramps:

 

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-installation-over-height-vehicle-detectors-prevent-bridge-strikes-long 

 

 

I saw stories like that after that incident. I'm thinking "what a clueless moron", then remembering I was one of those morons. 

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2 hours ago, The Dean said:

When I moved from LA to Long Island I was driving a U-Haul dragging a Citroen DS on a trailer behind. I'm not admitting to be driving under the influence at the time, but let's just say I have NO idea how I ended up on a 'No Trucks or Commercial Vehicles" parkway. It didn't even register until I saw the first overpass. I can't remember the exact height, but  it was an inch or so higher than my vehicle. The overpass was lower on the two ends, and higher in the middle, so I figured "the height listed must be the lowest possible", so I moved between the two lanes and hit the middle and just held my breath. I had one or two more to go before I got the hell off that parkway.


Fond memories of the Merritt Parkway in CT where every so often you’d come across a truck carefully backing his way down the shoulder to the previous exit.  ?

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