MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: I believe Coleman got $10 mil over 2 years. Yes he did, I went a little Longer on a 4 year deal as I think that is what a Team that traded for him would offer. But the AVV of 3.75 is the inflation bump over the comparable player 3.6 AVV with Coleman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: So he stuck up for his teammate? Didnt you Praise Ford when he did the same thing? How quick some will make excuses for rivals when they become candidates to join the Bills' roster. Ford always has his players' backs, but I don't recall him ever doing anything over-the-top or ejection-worthy in the process of defending a teammate; Drake wasn't responding to a helpless teammate, he was unnecessarily adding on to one of his guy's attack on a non-aggressive Poyer. I would not praise Ford for doing the equivalent of what Drake did, just like I never praised Jerry Hughes or Dion Dawkins in the past for doing things unnecessarily that were detrimental to the team. Drake got combative with his own teammate for trying to restrain him, that only added to my belief that he may be a headcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, MJS said: In other news, the Dolphins have decided to join the XFL. Not a bad idea. They just might be competitive!* (*I’m only kidding, in NO way is this posted to create, invite or suggest any type of jinx or bad karma.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Yeldon No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Just now, BurpleBull said: How quick some will make excuses for rivals when they become candidates to join the Bills' roster. Ford always has his players' backs, but I don't recall him ever doing anything over-the-top or ejection-worthy in the process of defending a teammate; Drake wasn't responding to a helpless teammate, he was unnecessarily adding on to one of his guy's attack on a non-aggressive Poyer. I would not praise Ford for doing the equivalent of what Drake did, just like I never praised Jerry Hughes or Dion Dawkins in the past for doing things unnecessarily that were detrimental to the team. Drake got combative with his own teammate for trying to restrain him, that only added to my belief that he may be a headcase. Again watch the YOUTUBE you posted. Poyer took it way past the Whistle with Landry, Landry went back at Poyer and then was surrounded by 4 Bills before Drake Inserted Himself into the Fight. What is Interesting is how quick or how blind fans are when it comes to their OWN players. Be Objective Really so you DONT think Ford did the Right thing going after Lorenzo Carter after his hit on Allen? Edited October 17, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yes he did, I went a little Longer on a 4 year deal as I think that is what a Team that traded for him would offer. But the AVV of 3.75 is the inflation bump over the comparable player 3.6 AVV with Coleman I honestly have no clue what Drake is but know Coleman was a great compliment back for the Falcons. Coleman can do everything good but nothing great. Is that how you would describe Drake? Edited October 17, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: I honestly have no clue what Drake is but know Coleman was a great compliment back for the Falcons. Coleman can do everything good but nothing great. Is that how you would describe Drake? Yep Drake is Very good out of the Backfield. A better Runner than Yeldon, and also Returns Kicks and Punts if Needed as well. He would look very good on this roster and in this system. Think of it as the Bills own James White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Again watch the YOUTUBE you posted. Poyer took it way past the Whistle with Landry, Landry went back at Poyer and then was surrounded by 4 Bills before Drake Inserted Himself into the Fight. What is Interesting is how quick or how blind fans are when it comes to their OWN players. Be Objective Really so you DONT think Ford did the Right thing going after Lorenzo Carter after his hit on Allen? Poyer took it way past the whistle? That's aggression to you? I've seen far worse after a whistle. Maybe something was said by Poyer, but I didn't see anything that Poyer did physically to warrant that reaction from Landry. Milano still had a grasp of Landry after Poyer had released him, so why would he shrug Milano off and attack Poyer instead of Milano if the issue was a Bills' player taking it way past the whistle? If Drake was responding to four Bills' players who "surrounded" Landry with the intent to intimidate him (versus to keep things from escalating), then shouldn't Drake have thrown his weight around at one of the four as to show loyalty, courage, and to even things out? He attacked Poyer almost as soon as he saw Landry go at him, he never saw the four Bills players you imagine surrounded Landry; Drake wasn't defending Landry from Bills' players who were trying to bully him, he was inspired by Landry's overreaction and simply wanted to get into the fray. There have been games where I've wished the Bills had more nasty in them, but they aren't that type of unit...you're giving Drake way too much credit and turning this McDermott-coached team into imposing, ruffians in that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, BurpleBull said: Poyer took it way past the whistle? That's aggression to you? I've seen far worse after a whistle. Maybe something was said by Poyer, but I didn't see anything that Poyer did physically to warrant that reaction from Landry. Milano still had a grasp of Landry after Poyer had released him, so why would he shrug Milano off and attack Poyer instead of Milano if the issue was a Bills' player taking it way past the whistle? If Drake was responding to four Bills' players who "surrounded" Landry with the intent to intimidate him (versus to keep things from escalating), then shouldn't Drake have thrown his weight around at one of the four as to show loyalty, courage, and to even things out? He attacked Poyer almost as soon as he saw Landry go at him, he never saw the four Bills players you imagine surrounded Landry; Drake wasn't defending Landry from Bills' players who were trying to bully him, he was inspired by Landry's overreaction and simply wanted to get into the fray. There have been games where I've wished the Bills had more nasty in them, but they aren't that type of unit...you're giving Drake way too much credit and turning this McDermott-coached team into imposing, ruffians in that moment. Got it not objective. Cool. We should Absolutely cut Ford then for standing up for Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Got it not objective. Cool. We should Absolutely cut Ford then for standing up for Allen I'm always skeptical when someone has a lot to say at first, but then resorts to a sarcastic, 16-word response after their initial response has been rebutted. I never implied Ford was in the wrong for sticking up for Josh Allen, or should be cut because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Would you like Drake or Yeldon? I would take Drake over Yeldon in a heartbeat, but I would be very surprised if Beane, or McDermott were willing to manage the team in that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Drake>Yeldon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Philo said: As a Drake fantasy owner this is welcome news. Just submitted in a waiver claim on him in my league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Doesn't Drake like the Toronto Raptors? He should like playing for the Bills then. He can just hop across the border and watch his NBA games when he wants. Only a 2 hour drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: His next contract is going to be comparable to Tevin Coleman. Something like 4 years 15M with a 3.75 AVV Agrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Would you like Drake or Yeldon? Drake. He can do what Yeldon does ie catch the ball. And he can do what Yeldon has not been able to do as a pro ie run the ball. Nothing againt Yeldon, but Drake is a significant upgrade IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Trade for Drake, cut Perry. Especially if it is a later round pick... would love to have Drake and Singletary going forward after Gore retires. Think beyond the 1yr rental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Drake. He can do what Yeldon does ie catch the ball. And he can do what Yeldon has not been able to do as a pro ie run the ball. Nothing againt Yeldon, but Drake is a significant upgrade IMO. Same here. He actually seems like he’s sort of a singletary gore hydrid... in between the two and probably a bigger home run threat than other with the top end speed. Yeldon can catch, but you never expect much YAC. Zays 5th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Same here. He actually seems like he’s sort of a singletary gore hydrid... in between the two and probably a bigger home run threat than other with the top end speed. Yeldon can catch, but you never expect much YAC. Zays 5th? Drake for Zay? In a heartbeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Drake for Zay? In a heartbeat! Sure but that’s Grudens decision.... I’m saying that 5th they got would be worth dangling to MIA for Drake. Think he’s better than Yeldon and a nice fit in Dab’s o. But no idea what sort of locker room guy he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I get trying to retool a roster and get a QB, but you still need some pieces on the roster. Drake is a young, cheap and talented RB. Is the 4th round pick really worth it to miami? They still have to find someone to run the ball Exactly. Miami is already the youngest team in the NFL this year. They will be adding all kinds of rookies in the next 2 years. They are going to be in desperate need for vet leadership. I wonder how much they will need to overpay to get vet FAs to sign there. It's going to be interesting to see how this all works out for them in the next few years. Personally I think they may be overdoing the tear down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Dang. Now Drake has something to play for on Sunday. Unfortunately no one around him does!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) A few thoughts about this as it pertains to the Bills: There were a number of posters on here and other Bills message board calling for a full on tank in 2017 after Watkins was traded, in an attempt to get the number 1 pick. What you're seeing in Miami right now is a great example of why, in my opinion, that's a terrible strategy for an organization. What Buffalo did instead--in terms of establishing a winning "culture", playing guys who earned their spots, and fighting to a 9-7 record--built a foundation for the youth makeover that came next. When Josh Allen was drafted, he wasn't walking into an 0-16 dumpster fire, he was coming into a program that felt it could even sit him for a year and let him learn. He ended up seeing the field earlier than was intended (perhaps), but their was already a culture of accountability and expected success. Now, in his second year, you have already seen this team win 4 games that, by all rights, any teams that we have fielded in the last 20 years would have lost. You can say the competition is bad, but each of those teams has a loss that is because of us... We went through the same process here, in terms of getting rid of "guys that didn't fit the system", but if it was McBeane running the show down there, you have to wonder if they would have a lot of these guys that they've already moved on the field, with Tanny having them at 3-2 in the thick of the wildcard race. Edited October 17, 2019 by JohnnyGold 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Sure but that’s Grudens decision.... I’m saying that 5th they got would be worth dangling to MIA for Drake. Think he’s better than Yeldon and a nice fit in Dab’s o. But no idea what sort of locker room guy he is. I too would happily send them a fifth for Drake. From Beane's perspective Zay morphs into Drake which I would see as an upgrade and a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, SCBills said: I've always liked Drake. He's a home run threat anytime he touches the ball. If I’m Buffalo, I would trade for Drake and cut Yeldon. I think he is underutilized and would be a star if used effectively 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: I picked up Walton yesterday. Then I read he missed practice and dropped him, 20 minutes before this tweet went out, now he's gotta go through waivers. FML. If you pick him up, I hope you don't start him this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Same. If he could stay healthy he would be a very good back. I may be in the minority, but i would prefer him over Yeldon. sorry TJ. He seems to offer a higher ceiling with actual NFL coaching (Bills ) Drake that is. 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't remember this, can you say more? But I don't think Drake is a candidate to come here. Trading to a division rival is pretty rare. would help the tanknottanktank : ) 5 hours ago, Conlan58 said: Trade for Drake, cut Perry. Especially if it is a later round pick... would love to have Drake and Singletary going forward after Gore retires. Think beyond the 1yr rental! read my mind and draft one brute to grind it Edited October 17, 2019 by 3rdand12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, SCBills said: I've always liked Drake. He's a home run threat anytime he touches the ball. I hate the Drake! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Have 3 bags of footballs ready when the Dolphins show up. They’re so into dumping current assets in anticipation of future assets that the suggestion these are future footballs will probably get the Bills the Drake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Have 3 bags of footballs ready when the Dolphins show up. They’re so into dumping current assets in anticipation of future assets that the suggestion these are future footballs will probably get the Bills the Drake. Couldn't ask for better timing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Couldn't ask for better timing! Miami will be asking the charter flight provider for a refund on the return fare for Drake. Look for future Dolphin cast offs to be found in whatever city the Dolphins have a game. Also, check local fire halls for 280 lb. players in baskets on the front steps. Note pinned on the aqua jersey ‘Please take care of this mug’. Edited October 17, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Miami will be asking the charter flight provider for a refund on the return fare for Drake. Plus they can pawn the three bags of footballs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Have 3 bags of footballs ready when the Dolphins show up. They’re so into dumping current assets in anticipation of future assets that the suggestion these are future footballs will probably get the Bills the Drake. Do you have any idea how much 3 bags of footballs cost and whats all this talk of airfare? 9 Edited October 17, 2019 by HOUSE 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfanlc Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al.com/alabamafootball/2014/10/alabama_rb_kenyan_drake_suffer.html%3foutputType=amp Leg injury serious enough to be airlifted to a hospital. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fansided.com/2015/11/14/kenyan-drake-injury-update-alabama-rb-leaves-game-possible-broken-arm-video/amp/ After recovering from the broken arm he did this... Tough guy that is a team player. Besides the Bill's do yall see any team out there that would need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: wonder if they have any pieces we can get cheaply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 They are doing the tank all wrong. they are getting rid of everything, which makes it a lot harder to rebuild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 19 hours ago, BurpleBull said: I'm always skeptical when someone has a lot to say at first, but then resorts to a sarcastic, 16-word response after their initial response has been rebutted. I never implied Ford was in the wrong for sticking up for Josh Allen, or should be cut because of it. you see a video one way. I see it another. I think your take is idiotic so ending the talk about it because not going to see anything else but your jaded view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: you see a video one way. I see it another. I think your take is idiotic so ending the talk about it because not going to see anything else but your jaded view. Says the guy who saw Jordan Poyer "take it way past the whistle". Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Says the guy who saw Jordan Poyer "take it way past the whistle". Lol Heard the Whistle Saw Poyer keep driving Landry so either gt your ears cleaned for get glasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Heard the Whistle Saw Poyer keep driving Landry so either gt your ears cleaned for get glasses And after Poyer released him, Milano was still doing what exactly? Lol Apparently you forgot yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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