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6 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

I honestly don't like Drake because of the altercation he was involved in during that Bills' game a season or two ago. 

Would you like Drake or Yeldon?

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I've always thought he was grossly underutilized in Miami. The guy has like 4.35 speed and you don't design plays to get him in space? Look at what he did in space to the NE Patriots last year on the final play of that game. I don't think they'll get anything for him really because he's a FA at year's end. I wouldn't mind him in Buffalo as he has ST value as well. 

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Give a Conditional 6th that can go to a 4th on re-signing.

 

Try him in this offense the rest of the year, if he fits offer a 4 year 15M contract he accepts cool you have Singeltary and Drake as your 1/2  If he doesnt no biggy you improves your ST and RB situation for this year for a 6th round pick.

 

Essentially you are trading Bodine for Drake  now tell me WHO wouldnt do that

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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Wouldnt give more than a 4th round pick for a RB. Especially one that has a contract coming up. No thanks.

The Rams just traded 3 1st round picks for him

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9 minutes ago, H2o said:

I've always thought he was grossly underutilized in Miami. The guy has like 4.35 speed and you don't design plays to get him in space? Look at what he did in space to the NE Patriots last year on the final play of that game. I don't think they'll get anything for him really because he's a FA at year's end. I wouldn't mind him in Buffalo as he has ST value as well. 

Drake looked really good two years ago, right up there with Alvin Kamara and Kareem Hunt.  And I agree that he seemed to be underutilized.   For whatever reason, he doesn't seem to have maintained that same level of play.  Lost playing time to Frank Gore last year...I'd certainly be interested in exchange for a mid-late round pick.

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27 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

I honestly don't like Drake because of the altercation he was involved in during that Bills' game a season or two ago. 

 

I don't remember this, can you say more?

 

But I don't think Drake is a candidate to come here.  Trading to a division rival is pretty rare.

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't remember this, can you say more?

 

But I don't think Drake is a candidate to come here.  Trading to a division rival is pretty rare.

 

Yet is happened Twice this year with Bills and NE and NE and Jets.  Guess the only one left is NE MIA hmmmmm (nah they have White)

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't remember this, can you say more?

 

But I don't think Drake is a candidate to come here.  Trading to a division rival is pretty rare.

 

 

Can show you better than I can tell you.

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3 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

 

Can show you better than I can tell you.

So he stuck up for his teammate?  Didnt you Praise Ford when he did the same thing?

 

See he Pushed Poyer off 14 initially then walked away then three Bills going at it with 14 so he inserted himself

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

So he stuck up for his teammate?  Didnt you Praise Ford when he did the same thing?

Now I definitely want him.  

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1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

His next contract is going to be comparable to Tevin Coleman.  Something like 4 years 15M with a 3.75 AVV

I believe Coleman got $10 mil over 2 years.

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Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I believe Coleman got $10 mil over 2 years.

 

Yes he did, I went a little Longer on a 4 year deal as I think that is what a Team that traded for him would offer.  But the AVV of 3.75 is the inflation bump over the comparable player 3.6 AVV with Coleman

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

So he stuck up for his teammate?  Didnt you Praise Ford when he did the same thing?

 

How quick some will make excuses for rivals when they become candidates to join the Bills' roster. 

 

Ford always has his players' backs, but I don't recall him  ever doing anything over-the-top or ejection-worthy in the process of defending a teammate; Drake wasn't responding to a helpless teammate, he was unnecessarily adding on to one of his guy's attack on a non-aggressive Poyer.

 

I would not praise Ford for doing the equivalent of what Drake did, just like I never praised Jerry Hughes or Dion Dawkins in the past for doing things unnecessarily that were detrimental to the team. 

 

Drake got combative with his own teammate for trying to restrain him, that only added to my belief that he may be a headcase.   

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2 hours ago, MJS said:

In other news, the Dolphins have decided to join the XFL.

 

Not a bad idea. They just might be competitive!*

 

 

(*I’m only kidding, in NO way is this posted to create, invite or suggest any type of jinx or bad karma.) 

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Just now, BurpleBull said:

 

How quick some will make excuses for rivals when they become candidates to join the Bills' roster. 

 

Ford always has his players' backs, but I don't recall him  ever doing anything over-the-top or ejection-worthy in the process of defending a teammate; Drake wasn't responding to a helpless teammate, he was unnecessarily adding on to one of his guy's attack on a non-aggressive Poyer.

 

I would not praise Ford for doing the equivalent of what Drake did, just like I never praised Jerry Hughes or Dion Dawkins in the past for doing things unnecessarily that were detrimental to the team. 

 

Drake got combative with his own teammate for trying to restrain him, that only added to my belief that he may be a headcase.   

 

Again watch the YOUTUBE you posted.  Poyer took it way past the Whistle with Landry, Landry went back at Poyer and then was surrounded by 4 Bills before Drake Inserted Himself into the Fight.  

 

What is Interesting is how quick or how blind fans are when it comes to their OWN players.  Be Objective

 

Really so you DONT think Ford did the Right thing going after Lorenzo Carter after his hit on Allen?

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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Yes he did, I went a little Longer on a 4 year deal as I think that is what a Team that traded for him would offer.  But the AVV of 3.75 is the inflation bump over the comparable player 3.6 AVV with Coleman

I honestly have no clue what Drake is but know Coleman was a great compliment back for the Falcons. Coleman can do everything good but nothing great. Is that how you would describe Drake?

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Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I honestly have no clue what Drake is but know Coleman was a great compliment back for the Falcons. Coleman can do everything good but nothing great. Is that how you would describe Drake?

 

Yep Drake is Very good out of the Backfield.  A better Runner than Yeldon, and also Returns Kicks and Punts if Needed as well.  He would look very good on this roster and in this system.  Think of it as the Bills own James White

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10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Again watch the YOUTUBE you posted.  Poyer took it way past the Whistle with Landry, Landry went back at Poyer and then was surrounded by 4 Bills before Drake Inserted Himself into the Fight.  

 

What is Interesting is how quick or how blind fans are when it comes to their OWN players.  Be Objective

 

Really so you DONT think Ford did the Right thing going after Lorenzo Carter after his hit on Allen?

 

Poyer took it way past the whistle? That's aggression to you? I've seen far worse after a whistle.

 

Maybe something was said by Poyer, but I didn't see anything that Poyer did physically to warrant that reaction from Landry. Milano still had a grasp of Landry after Poyer had released him, so why would he shrug Milano off and attack Poyer instead of Milano if the issue was a Bills' player taking it way past the whistle?

 

If Drake was responding to four Bills' players who "surrounded" Landry with the intent to intimidate him (versus to keep things from escalating), then shouldn't Drake have thrown his weight around at one of the four as to show loyalty, courage, and to even things out?

 

He attacked Poyer almost as soon as he saw Landry go at him, he never saw the four Bills players you imagine surrounded Landry; Drake wasn't defending Landry from Bills' players who were trying to bully him, he was inspired by Landry's overreaction and simply wanted to get into the fray.

 

There have been games where I've wished the Bills had more nasty in them, but they aren't that type of unit...you're giving Drake way too much credit and turning this McDermott-coached team into imposing, ruffians in that moment.  

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Just now, BurpleBull said:

 

Poyer took it way past the whistle? That's aggression to you? I've seen far worse after a whistle.

 

Maybe something was said by Poyer, but I didn't see anything that Poyer did physically to warrant that reaction from Landry. Milano still had a grasp of Landry after Poyer had released him, so why would he shrug Milano off and attack Poyer instead of Milano if the issue was a Bills' player taking it way past the whistle?

 

If Drake was responding to four Bills' players who "surrounded" Landry with the intent to intimidate him (versus to keep things from escalating), then shouldn't Drake have thrown his weight around at one of the four as to show loyalty, courage, and to even things out?

 

He attacked Poyer almost as soon as he saw Landry go at him, he never saw the four Bills players you imagine surrounded Landry; Drake wasn't defending Landry from Bills' players who were trying to bully him, he was inspired by Landry's overreaction and simply wanted to get into the fray.

 

There have been games where I've wished the Bills had more nasty in them, but they aren't that type of unit...you're giving Drake way too much credit and turning this McDermott-coached team into imposing, ruffians in that moment.  

 

Got it not objective.  Cool.  

 

We should Absolutely cut Ford then for standing up for Allen

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

 

Got it not objective.  Cool.  

 

We should Absolutely cut Ford then for standing up for Allen

 

I'm always skeptical when someone has a lot to say at first, but then resorts to a sarcastic, 16-word response after their initial response has been rebutted. 

 

I never implied Ford was in the wrong for sticking up for Josh Allen, or should be cut because of it. 

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