BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Highest salary structure in the NFL I believe, and they’re about to rebuild under a new coaching staff. But Hooper is one of their cheap, young guys. He’s not moving the needle much as a salary shed trade. You would see a lot of their other players traded for a 4th before Hoop. I’m not sure they are going to full on rebuild either tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Shaq Lawson for Vic Beasley Oh, now, that's interesting. Say more about why you think that's a "win" move for both sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: 1st and a 4th for Mike Evans when the Bucs realize Winston ain't the guy and decide to rebuild. Arians didn’t sign up for a rebuild - Evans isn’t going anywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: they can’t blow it up. How do they walk away from a Ryan and Julio now? If they can’t, why would they get rid of their third best player for a 4th round pick which will do nothing for them? By blow it up I mean front office and coaches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Arians didn’t sign up for a rebuild - Evans isn’t going anywhere. Or to put it another way - an Arians-style rebuild is more what he tried to do with the Cardinals. You look at your roster, ID the missing piece(s), and get them somehow from somewhere - but not by tanking and using high picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Shaq Lawson for Vic Beasley God no! Beasley would instantly turn into the TwoBillsDrive most hated player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, now, that's interesting. Say more about why you think that's a "win" move for both sides? Kind of like the trade that netted us Hughes. I think Shaq could use a change of scenery, despite improving this year. Vic had 1 year where he really flashed as a pass rusher, but his overall career stats are very similar to shaq's on a per game basis. I take a shot on his production rising when he's drawing less attention here than in Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Joe Marino on locked on Bills was talking about how Carolina picked up Jared Allen for a 6th in their 2015 Superbowl run. If you want something similar how about Ryan Kerrigan from the Redskins? They're resetting anyway. Some edge help for a low pick looks good to me. With regards to future seasons I was on the Chargers forum where there is some chatter that they think Bosa will want a big contract next year but money is low. Makes you think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Arians didn’t sign up for a rebuild - Evans isn’t going anywhere. But I want him. I really really want him. Please. Pretty please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Kind of like the trade that netted us Hughes. I think Shaq could use a change of scenery, despite improving this year. Vic had 1 year where he really flashed as a pass rusher, but his overall career stats are very similar to shaq's on a per game basis. I take a shot on his production rising when he's drawing less attention here than in Atlanta. "He's trying to reprise Hughes for Sheppard" was my thought when I saw this. Intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Seoulofstone said: Joe Marino on locked on Bills was talking about how Carolina picked up Jared Allen for a 6th in their 2015 Superbowl run. If you want something similar how about Ryan Kerrigan from the Redskins? They're resetting anyway. Some edge help for a low pick looks good to me. With regards to future seasons I was on the Chargers forum where there is some chatter that they think Bosa will want a big contract next year but money is low. Makes you think.... Yep Kerrigan is available I think. What about Geno Atkins? He’s old and Harry is done for the year. Could we get Atkins for a 3rd? He’s an interior force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Their current staff is going to be unemployed before the trade deadline. I don't think that's the way the Falcons work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Yep Kerrigan is available I think. What about Geno Atkins? He’s old and Harry is done for the year. Could we get Atkins for a 3rd? He’s an interior force. I think Phillips, Oliver, and Star are a pretty good rotation piece for now... I'd rather edge help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) A Conditional 4th to Tenn. Bills receive Corey Davis Edited October 16, 2019 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: A Conditional 4th to Tenn. Bills receive Corey Coleman. ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Again - they have the highest payroll in the league and Blank is about to depart from his MO and fire his coach (and possibly his GM) mid-season. I follow the Falcons a lot closer than probably anyone else on this board. Blank may fire the GM and Coach. I don’t think he does or should. Blank isn’t a bad owner but he wants to win and is getting restless. IF Blank fires anyone it would be because he thinks the team can turn it around now and still make a run this year. You need Hooper to do that. Also, Blank loves his players, especially ones he drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think that's the way the Falcons work. Not usually. This year looks to be different, that’s my strong prediction. Blank just gave an ultimatum which he NEVER does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Yea I don't think Evans is going anywhere, it's not Arians style. He'd rather identify what's not working and work from there. Also, while people think Winston doesn't have it... take a look at Carson Palmers first half of his first season with Arians and where he ended the year. It looks VERY similar to Winston. Now, I'm not saying Winston = Palmer but it could be Arians is willing to wait til the end of the season. This is a tough one because I think if a trade is going to happen it should be for an offensive position. The problem with trading for a WR is the draft next year could be a phenomenal WR class. You'd be getting a cheap WR with star potential. So I think it needs to be along the OL, I like the Williams idea and I'm wondering if at this point a 2nd 2020 and a 2nd in 2021 gets him away from Washington. Or something like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Shaq Lawson for Vic Beasley I actually like what Shaq is doing on the field. Beasley is a lightweight DE that has regressed in recent years. Pass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: ?????? Ahhh ***** I mean Davis. Corey Davis. that’s my realistic Trade. Diggs isn’t going to happen Williams isnt Green Isn’t looking for an edge rusher now Kerrigan makes sense as well. But didn’t want to use who already was posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I think it’s been established that any player worth having would cost more than we want to give up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Like this 53 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: 1st and a 4th for Mike Evans when the Bucs realize Winston ain't the guy and decide to rebuild. It would take more than that to get a hall of fame receiver in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1. Murphy and a second for Von Miller 2. 5th for McCoy back from the Chiefs 3. 3rd for Larry Fitzgerald 4. 2nd for OJ Howard 5. 2020 1st and 4th for Trent Williams and swap positions in the second round giving Bills a likely top 5 second round pick and Washington pick #64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 trent williams will be traded.....likely for a first round pick....he's worth it we could use him at LT and move dawkins to RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Murphy and a second for Von Miller 2. 5th for McCoy back from the Chiefs 3. 3rd for Larry Fitzgerald 4. 2nd for OJ Howard 5. 2020 1st and 4th for Trent Williams and swap positions in the second round giving Bills a likely top 5 second round pick and Washington pick #64 1. Not enough for a premier edge 2. McCoy isn’t coming back 3. That actually might work (think is cost more than a 3rd) 4. Arians not moving him 5. God please NO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Virgil said: I think it’s been established that any player worth having would cost more than we want to give up. boom....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) The Chargers appear to be a sinking ship right now, I would inquire about one of the best route runners in Keenan Allen. But perhaps a better and cheaper option would be to offer maybe a third for Mike Williams whose still on his rookie deal. Edited October 16, 2019 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Easy, McCaffrey and Kuechly in a package deal... Target JJ Watt and Kerrigan for some rush, target Kupp or Thielen. I'd trade Gore, Lorax, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd for McCafe and Keecles... Watt for Murphy and 2020 3rd, 4th 2021 3rd, 5th 7th Kerrigan for Taron Johnson, 2020 5th 6th 7th Kupp for Robert Foster, 2020 2nd, 2021 4th Edited October 16, 2019 by Sherlock Holmes 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 1. Not enough for a premier edge 2. McCoy isn’t coming back 3. That actually might work (think is cost more than a 3rd) 4. Arians not moving him 5. God please NO Seahawks got Clowney for two players and a 3rd. I'd increase the offer for Miller to Murphy, a #2and #3 if Denver gave back a 5th. I know McCoy won't be back but it would be a great story Why not Trent Williams? Assuming they make the playoffs the Bills would be giving up a #1 in the 20's and with the second round swap would be getting a #2 in the early to mid 30's. That is a Probowl level OT and still keep a relatively high draft pick that will cost them less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I think Beane will make a trade before the deadline. Whilst it would be a wet dream to land Diggs or Evans, I’ll go something a little more modest ... A 4th for Mohamed Sanu.. He is under contract through 2020 at $6.5Mil.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If Emmanuel Sanders is on the block for a 3rd rounder I would consider it esp since he would likely net back a comp 3rd. A really good pro who helps the team add some punch to the WR core. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm with you on being mystified, but even some of our media guys are on board with the Green love. AJ Green is a great wide receiver, but he's struggled with injury, he's coming back from torn ligaments, and he just suited up and did "light working out and stretching" less than a week ago. Ligament repair at least used to require immobility (where's @Mr. WEO?) to allow the ligaments to reattach, and that means significant need to work back into "game shape". And this is his final year under contract. The Bengals say they aren't going to trade him (didn't the Jaguars say that about Ramsey?) but that probably means they will for the right asking price. Cross their palm with firsts, and he's yours. I don't think it's the right move for us to give up a first and more for maybe a 6-8 game rental on a guy coming back from debilitating injury. I think it's a "desperation move", a move for a team that was expected to contend for the championship, has a window that's closing, and that feels they're a WR away from getting it done. I also don't see the Bills as a WR from getting it done. Would a WR on the caliber of a healthy AJ Green make a significant difference for us, sure. But the Bills are ultimatey going to Ride or Die on what's between Josh Allen's ears this season. If he "takes care of the football" and "takes what the defense gives him", we can win with what we have. Here! Not expert at ligament damage. But I see a guy like Green wondering how long all of this is worth all of this. He's earned 90 million through this season. He's missed 19 games in the past 4 seasons. He's appeared (briefly) in 1 game in nearly a year. He has to know that all of that will factor into any offer he gets from his next team so the big earning years are over. He can't stay on the field anymore--why would he keep at it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Seahawks got Clowney for two players and a 3rd. I'd increase the offer for Miller to Murphy, a #2and #3 if Denver gave back a 5th. I know McCoy won't be back but it would be a great story Why not Trent Williams? Assuming they make the playoffs the Bills would be giving up a #1 in the 20's and with the second round swap would be getting a #2 in the early to mid 30's. That is a Probowl level OT and still keep a relatively high draft pick that will cost them less. Houston had Zero Leverage with Clowney totally different scenario. Lets see why not Trent Williams: He hasn't worked football now in now how long. Is he healthy from his Latest SERIOUS Medical issue? Skins already turned a 1st round pick down. He hasnt played a full 16 game season since 2013. Has Knee and Back issues So yeah NOPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Dream on, but I wish there was a way to bring Von Miller aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I can't see Beane looking at aging poorly Trent Williams's recent availability and all of the drama surrounding how he feels his (many) injuries were handled by another team AND the fact that this guy has been sitting around his house for months----and deciding to dump the rookie HE just drafted AND give up a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Give me an OT please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If Singletaryʻs hammy is an issue this week, we should trade for Devonte Freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Houston had Zero Leverage with Clowney totally different scenario. Lets see why not Trent Williams: He hasn't worked football now in now how long. Is he healthy from his Latest SERIOUS Medical issue? Skins already turned a 1st round pick down. He hasnt played a full 16 game season since 2013. Has Knee and Back issues So yeah NOPE Hmmm. I don't agree. Clowney would have had to show up to get credit for his season. If they let him walk after 2019 no doubt the free agent contract he would sign would net them a 3rd round compensation pick. So they got a couple players and got the pick a year early. Denver is in full rebuild mode. If I'm Elway, I don't trade Miller as they just signed a defensive minded HC. But if Elway wants to stock the team with young talent Miller is his only real asset. Emmanuel Sanders might net at best a 4th rounder but even that is a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Realistically they probably aren’t making a trade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Hmmm. I don't agree. Clowney would have had to show up to get credit for his season. If they let him walk after 2019 no doubt the free agent contract he would sign would net them a 3rd round compensation pick. So they got a couple players and got the pick a year early. Denver is in full rebuild mode. If I'm Elway, I don't trade Miller as they just signed a defensive minded HC. But if Elway wants to stock the team with young talent Miller is his only real asset. Emmanuel Sanders might net at best a 4th rounder but even that is a stretch. By Week 10. Are they? Did they not just win their last two, and Elway is GMing for his JOB this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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