rayray808 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I check this thread non stop just hoping for that one screen shot of a reputable source reporting that Clowney is on the way to Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: This excellent post illustrates how untenable the Bills salary cap situation is getting. How does this keep happening???? Welp Beane got us out of salary cap hell once........good thing he plays a mean fiddle! It is hard convincing people here that the idea is to have good football players. I sometimes think fans would prefer it if we always had $100m of cap space and 6 comp picks. Maybe it is the comfort that when you are in that spot it means you have made a decision to have a rebuild and hence the expectation is less? Are some fans more naturally comfortable following a plucky underdog than a team that has clearly set its goal on acquiring Championship calibre talent? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Rico said: "Right on!" Not privy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Hi, you still talking bout me? The 24 hours is up.... Edited August 27, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I don’t have time to read through these 40 pages ( again).. Can someone just tell me when he is arriving in Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: It is hard convincing people here that the idea is to have good football players. I sometimes think fans would prefer it if we always had $100m of cap space and 6 comp picks. Maybe it is the comfort that when you are in that spot it means you have made a decision to have a rebuild and hence the expectation is less? Are some fans more naturally comfortable following a plucky underdog than a team that has clearly set its goal on acquiring Championship calibre talent? Problem with that line of thinking: this team has talent. And for the record I'm for going after clowney, and Spain is overrated. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I don’t have time to read through these 40 pages ( again).. Can someone just tell me when he is arriving in Buffalo? In W8 wearing Eagles uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: It is hard convincing people here that the idea is to have good football players. I sometimes think fans would prefer it if we always had $100m of cap space and 6 comp picks. Maybe it is the comfort that when you are in that spot it means you have made a decision to have a rebuild and hence the expectation is less? Are some fans more naturally comfortable following a plucky underdog than a team that has clearly set its goal on acquiring Championship calibre talent? Many Bills fans have become fantasy football enthusiasts who enjoy possibility more than actuality. The off-season and draft have become the Super Bowl. Couple that with a lurking paranoia that whatever decision the team makes will be the wrong one, many fans prefer indecisiveness to action. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Waiting ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: Only another 24 or 48 hours or so..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Problem with that line of thinking: this team has talent. And for the record I'm for going after clowney, and Spain is overrated. ? I am for going after Clowney too but nervous about the ability to re-sign him. Spain will be fine. I agree with those who say he looks a bit heavy but other than one play where he got blown up by a really good DT he has had a solid pre-season. He was playing well against Detroit before the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 hours ago, rayray808 said: I check this thread non stop just hoping for that one screen shot of a reputable source reporting that Clowney is on the way to Buffalo Just to level set — The only “source” to claim this is as far as ive seen Why So Serious account on Twitter, which is a podcast run by Stevie Johnson and Donald Jones. At one point, they had the Bills playing in thanksgiving game before anyone else (that I saw). Not sure if that makes them credible. 7 hours ago, papazoid said: first of all, Clowney is not signed by Houston. He effectively has a no trade clause because the team can’t trade him until he signs the tag. This means that not only does the acquiring team need to want Clowney, Clowney needs to want them Second of all, any team trading for Clowney couldn’t even give him the money he wants. After the July 15 deadline passed, a team can only trade for Clowney and let it ride. (essentially, he's a one year rental. highly doubt anyone meets their trade demands. he likely plays out this season with houston, gets tagged again and then traded before next years july 15th deadline) https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/8/17/20810293/seahawks-trade-rumors-jadeveon-clowney-texans-franchise-tag-holdout-seattle-2019-preseason This is what is holding up the trade/making it very complicated. (wherever he lands) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 9 hours ago, BUFFALOTONE said: My gut tells me Houston is holding out for a first round pick or a franchise type player in return. LTs, DEs and QBs get paid the highest in the NFL and it will take a measure of a high value player with a high draft pick. The Bills just don’t have the equity and to be honest I’d rather ride with who they have now than mortgage a 1st round pick on Clowney. My money is on Seattle fwiw. They like these types of high priced vets and are devoid of a pass rush once Clark went to KC. 8 hours ago, auburnbillsbacker said: They can't get anywhere close to a first. Clowney will only go to a team that will not tag him again. A one year rental isnt worth close to a round 1 pick. Given how well they have drafted, how well this team is put together, and what great shape our salary cap is in I fully expect us to contend this year, but I believe 4-5 of our picks in the 2020 draft are just going to solidify this teams future. I don’t want to lose that because it is not cliche to say you build through the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: What does it say that he hasn't been dealt yet? No one is offering what the Texans think they are owed. I think it’s more about Clowney hasn’t approved a destination yet, of the teams talking to the texans. Most of what I’ve read says it hinges on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s more about Clowney hasn’t approved a destination yet, of the teams talking to the texans. Most of what I’ve read says it hinges on him He probably wants Patriots or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Jets were mentioned a few weeks ago too, Clayton confirms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Element115 said: He probably wants Patriots or bust. Not everyone is HUGE patriot* fan like YOU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Element115 said: He probably wants Patriots or bust. Just like your parents condom and I'm sure they were so glad when they saw two pink lines on the test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Putin said: Not everyone is HUGE patriot* fan like YOU 58 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Just like your parents condom and I'm sure they were so glad when they saw two pink lines on the test. Not sure why the personal attacks? Many vets have gone to the Pats looking for a ring... Do you really think Clowney would want to go to the Dolphins or Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Any truth to something I read yesterday about him filing a grievance about being tagged as OLB instead of DE? If so could see him not signing a tag until that’s settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Element115 said: Not sure why the personal attacks? Many vets have gone to the Pats looking for a ring... Do you really think Clowney would want to go to the Dolphins or Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Any truth to something I read yesterday about him filing a grievance about being tagged as OLB instead of DE? If so could see him not signing a tag until that’s settled. It was filed by the Nflpa in July... I don’t believe it has been resolved yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Maynard said: I don’t see how Seattle can afford him....., Wagner and Wilson? Im not going to pretend like I understand Seattle's cap but believe they can pay more than 2 players sizable contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s more about Clowney hasn’t approved a destination yet, of the teams talking to the texans. Most of what I’ve read says it hinges on him Interesting. You would think that Brian Gaine has insight into how to appeal to Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I can confirm, Clowney makes us better in Madden. Edit: .......and looks damn good in Shaq's 90! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, Element115 said: Not sure why the personal attacks? Many vets have gone to the Pats looking for a ring... Do you really think Clowney would want to go to the Dolphins or Bills? No premier pass defensive lineman has ever wanted to go to the Bills. Especially from Houston. Never has happened or will happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 The Mack trade happened on September 1st, right? I imagine If the Texans are wanting to trade him, and wanting to get a player(s) in return, that they’d want to do so before too long so the player has a chance of being up to speed wk 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 this is becoming worse than the whole bryant johnson debacle, at least when that was over it was done, this ***** keeps on coming back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Element115 said: Not sure why the personal attacks? Many vets have gone to the Pats looking for a ring... Do you really think Clowney would want to go to the Dolphins or Bills? Bills had the # 2 defense last year why NOT ?? If that was a WR I would have agreed with you , Edited August 27, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: The Mack trade happened on September 1st, right? I imagine If the Texans are wanting to trade him, and wanting to get a player(s) in return, that they’d want to do so before too long so the player has a chance of being up to speed wk 1. I think that’s why the media is expecting it to happen yesterday ... but this trade is so much more complicated than Mack because of the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: No premier pass defensive lineman has ever wanted to go to the Bills. Especially from Houston. Never has happened or will happen. He came for the 100 million and "deers". Do we know if Clowney hunt "deers"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think that’s why the media is expecting it to happen yesterday ... but this trade is so much more complicated than Mack because of the tag. Yeah. It really shouldn’t be hard. They should get a list of offers, sort the ones that they like, counter when necessary, rule out any teams they don’t want him to go to, and then take the list to his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Putin said: Bills had the # 2 defense last year why NOT ?? If that was a WR I would have agreed with you , I guess because of the lack of recent playoff births. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Element115 said: He came for the 100 million and "deers". Do we know if Clowney hunt "deers"? I think there are deer everywhere in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The more I think of this the more I think it ain't happening..... Edited August 27, 2019 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Yeah. It really shouldn’t be hard. They should get a list of offers, sort the ones that they like, counter when necessary, rule out any teams they don’t want him to go to, and then take the list to his agent. It seems simple, but the number of teams who can fit in his cap #, are offering what the Texans are willing to take, and that he is willing to go to may not align. The biggest issue is that the Texans have no leverage. Also, they have no GM. Edited August 27, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: It seems simple, but the number of teams who can fit in his cap #, are offering what the Texans are willing to take, and that he is willing to go to may not align. The biggest issue is that the Texans have no leverage. I really think they are waiting on the ruling of OLB vs DE before he signs any tender and can be traded. He cant get any long term money now so he might as well see if he can get the most he can this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It seems simple, but the number of teams who can fit in his cap #, are offering what the Texans are willing to take, and that he is willing to go to may not align. The biggest issue is that the Texans have no leverage. Also, they have no GM. But Bill O’Brian is a genius! He spent several years shakin it for the other Bill, so he must know exactly what he’s doing— give him all the power. 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: I really think they are waiting on the ruling of OLB vs DE before he signs any tender and can be traded. He cant get any long term money now so he might as well see if he can get the most he can this year. Thats a valid point... seems like a pretty straight forward thing to me- count how many times his hand was on the ground at the snap/when it wasn’t, there’s your answer. Edited August 27, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think there are deer everywhere in the United States. Hawaii ....boom If this thread doesn't get to 50 pages today i'm so done with this franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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