Logic Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) I was watching the Panthers game again, and I thought Ryan Bates looked pretty damned good for a UDFA playing center in the NFL for the very first time, on a team he's been with for just a week. It seemed like a throwaway trade, but maybe it wasn't. If you watch that game again any time soon, keep your eye on Bates once he comes in. And by all means, keep an eye on him against the Lions. We may have something with this kid. Edited August 20, 2019 by Logic 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I noticed a few high snaps that can be very dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I noticed a few high snaps that can be very dangerous Indeed. A few bad snaps. HOWEVER One thing I forgot to mention in the OP: This was his first time EVER playing center in either the pros OR college. He took snaps at center at practice for Penn State, but never did it in a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 We're like the Boy Scouts: "Be prepared." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Logic said: Indeed. A few bad snaps. HOWEVER One thing I forgot to mention in the OP: This was his first time EVER playing center in either the pros OR college. He took snaps at center at practice for Penn State, but never did it in a game. Did he? You sure he didn't give snaps at center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 If he plays well in the next 2 games, he could be a candidate for the PS. He still needs to learn to make line calls and that won't happen in just a couple of weeks, from what I gather, Josh made the line calls Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: Did he? You sure he didn't give snaps at center? goddamnit. Edited August 20, 2019 by Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: If he plays well in the next 2 games, he could be a candidate for the PS. He still needs to learn to make line calls and that won't happen in just a couple of weeks, from what I gather, Josh made the line calls Friday He also plays G and T. Emergency center in a pinch. It will be interesting to see if he gets snaps elsewhere. Uber versatility is a a big thing. Assuming he and Long and Feliciano make it, and Bodine is cut, that gives us 4 guys along with Morse who can fill in at C. If Bates could also be a 4th tackle or 5th guard in the process all the better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I’ve always been a Bates fan. Ever since freshman year at PSU. I said this last year in a thread about offensive line and was laughed at. I feel vindicated. Can never have enough horses in the barn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Four star recruit. According to Crabb/Marino (Draft Network) he projects in the pros at centre (lacks the length to play OT and the bulk/strength to play OG). Jeremiah had him as a top UDFA. Some mocks had him going in the 4th (to Jags). Definitely looks like PS material, especially if he's to develop as a centre. Good trade for both teams. He for sure wasn't making the Iggles roster. Showed well in practice so maybe was headed to their PS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Four star recruit. According to Crabb/Marino (Draft Network) he projects in the pros at centre (lacks the length to play OT and the bulk/strength to play OG). Jeremiah had him as a top UDFA. Some mocks had him going in the 4th (to Jags). Definitely looks like PS material, especially if he's to develop as a centre. Good trade for both teams. He for sure wasn't making the Iggles roster. Showed well in practice so maybe was headed to their PS. He was a big Eagles fan that's why he signed there so I am guessing he ends up on Eagles PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I’ve always been a Bates fan. Ever since freshman year at PSU. I said this last year in a thread about offensive line and was laughed at. I feel vindicated. Can never have enough horses in the barn. Your shouts about Bates still resonate. What I remember most is what you said about his physicality and ability to play in a phone booth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Does he own a motel? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 He'll really bring a load once he masters his new position. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I don't think they can release him and expect to sneak him on the PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 He hasn't played center since his freshmen year of college. I think he's allowed to have a few bad snaps. BTW, Feliciano handled the line calls from the guard spot to help him out. He hasn't had time to learn all the terminology for the Bills' line calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: We're like the Boy Scouts: "Be prepared." The US Coast Guard would offer that, "Semper Paratus" fits there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, That's No Moon said: He also plays G and T. Emergency center in a pinch. It will be interesting to see if he gets snaps elsewhere. Uber versatility is a a big thing. Assuming he and Long and Feliciano make it, and Bodine is cut, that gives us 4 guys along with Morse who can fill in at C. If Bates could also be a 4th tackle or 5th guard in the process all the better. Never want to take bread out of anyone’s hand, but doesn’t that phrase just have a nice ring to it? Like a symbolic cutting of ties to the unmitigated freight train disaster that was the OL/Center position last year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: Did he? You sure he didn't give snaps at center? Really? ^ Is this the level of interaction that I should expect to see cluttering the board this season? A real "gotcha" moment... a real burn. Edited August 20, 2019 by OJ Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Ralonzo said: He'll really bring a load once he masters his new position. Master? Why that’s his middle name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Logic said: goddamnit. I bet you had a whole thoughtful response mapped out to defend yourself, then realized what you were doing, and this was the result. 11 hours ago, OJ Tom said: Really? ^ Is this the level of interaction that I should expect to see cluttering the board this season? A real "gotcha" moment... a real burn. Bruh. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 There has been a fair degree of critique about Beane and signing Morse when there was a question about his concussion history. But you do have to give him credit for scouring the waiver wires, free agents, and draft to substantially upgrade the O line. We're going to cut some guys that will likely go elsewhere and get jobs, which speaks to both the overall paucity of O line talent and the commitment by Beane to upgrade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: There has been a fair degree of critique about Beane and signing Morse when there was a question about his concussion history. But you do have to give him credit for scouring the waiver wires, free agents, and draft to substantially upgrade the O line. We're going to cut some guys that will likely go elsewhere and get jobs, which speaks to both the overall paucity of O line talent and the commitment by Beane to upgrade. They swung for the fences on Morse, but also structured his contract to give us relatively painless outs after this year. They also brought in Feliciano, who looks more than capable of being an average level starter at Center, if needed. Strong versatility all along the line, and it's almost like they built in contingency depth for if Morse misses time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFlutie said: Bruh. Lol. Hey man. He was just defending me against your rude, baseless, and most likely racially motivated verbal assault against me. He and I are the good guys here. And you, @BringBackFlutie? You just need to pump the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Let's hope Johnson isn't too hardon him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: There has been a fair degree of critique about Beane and signing Morse when there was a question about his concussion history. But you do have to give him credit for scouring the waiver wires, free agents, and draft to substantially upgrade the O line. We're going to cut some guys that will likely go elsewhere and get jobs, which speaks to both the overall paucity of O line talent and the commitment by Beane to upgrade. I am thinking they will trade a Bills cut for a punter before the cut date. Makes sure they get the player they want and the other team gets some Bills depth. Win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I am thinking they will trade a Bills cut for a punter before the cut date. Makes sure they get the player they want and the other team gets some Bills depth. Win-win. No need to trade for a punter. There are some decent ones out there (Allen, King) and more to be cut soon. Last year they added Bojorquez just a week before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Logic said: Hey man. He was just defending me against your rude, baseless, and most likely racially motivated verbal assault against me. He and I are the good guys here. And you, @BringBackFlutie? You just need to pump the brakes. Let me type this slowly so you can understand: Pre. See. Zun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 17 hours ago, bilzfancy said: If he plays well in the next 2 games, he could be a candidate for the PS. He still needs to learn to make line calls and that won't happen in just a couple of weeks, from what I gather, Josh made the line calls Friday Why Mitch Morse was so critical this year, J Allen has enough one his plate, expecting him to make line calls consistently is asking too much at this point imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 17 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: I’ve always been a Bates fan. Ever since freshman year at PSU. I said this last year in a thread about offensive line and was laughed at. I feel vindicated. Can never have enough horses in the barn. It amazes me how fans of a college team can spot players that NFL scouts and GM miss. There were several posters on TSW who knew that Foster and Wallace were good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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