SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 McCoy says Bills' Josh Allen 'looks more confident' http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001034672/article/mccoy-says-bills-josh-allen-looks-more-confident At times last season, especially early, Josh Allen looked lost, not seeing the entire field, unsure where the rush or coverage was coming from, and relying on his superior athleticism rather than intellect to win plays. At times it worked out great, with Allen looking like one of the most athletic players on the field, dashing with his feet and drilling strikes with his big arm. At times it combusted, with Allen tossing wayward balls behind targets, not getting through his progression, and an inefficient offense resulted. After an offseason of workouts, running back LeSean McCoy believes we're seeing an improved Allen, especially mentally. "He looks better," McCoy told Vic Carucci of The Buffalo News. "I think he looks more confident. I think last year he just played off of talent. Sometimes, when quarterbacks are really talented, you overlook how smart they really are. Josh is smart." The strides Allen has made were not lost on his coaching staff, which knows the Bills have no chance at the playoffs without improvements from the QB spot. the question .... is this just a fluff piece? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Fluff piece? Sure. There are a ton of them. I don't mind it though. A second year QB looking more confident than he did is as a rookie should not be a revelation. It is expected. There would be something seriously wrong if he didn't look a lot more confident. That said, a little confirmation that he seems to be on the right path is always comforting. Now, if he looks more confident when he facing an exotic Gregg Williams defense on opening day. . . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: the question .... is this just a fluff piece? At least it wasn't written by Chris Brown... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, eball said: At least it wasn't written by Chris Brown... cause he doesn't know football... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: cause he doesn't know football... And he's paid by the Bills so they force him to say nice things.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: cause he doesn't know football... ...From 1962 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: McCoy says Bills' Josh Allen 'looks more confident' http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001034672/article/mccoy-says-bills-josh-allen-looks-more-confident At times last season, especially early, Josh Allen looked lost, not seeing the entire field, unsure where the rush or coverage was coming from, and relying on his superior athleticism rather than intellect to win plays. At times it worked out great, with Allen looking like one of the most athletic players on the field, dashing with his feet and drilling strikes with his big arm. At times it combusted, with Allen tossing wayward balls behind targets, not getting through his progression, and an inefficient offense resulted. After an offseason of workouts, running back LeSean McCoy believes we're seeing an improved Allen, especially mentally. "He looks better," McCoy told Vic Carucci of The Buffalo News. "I think he looks more confident. I think last year he just played off of talent. Sometimes, when quarterbacks are really talented, you overlook how smart they really are. Josh is smart." The strides Allen has made were not lost on his coaching staff, which knows the Bills have no chance at the playoffs without improvements from the QB spot. the question .... is this just a fluff piece? A fluff piece? Certainly...not like we have real football to talk about or even training camp Anything to it? Probably....Allen should understand much more now about the game and what it takes to succeed. He should have spent a lot of time this off season watching film and learning to read and diagnose NFL defenses. So he should look more confident. But as we saw last off-season, how a QB looks even in training camp and preseason games, really doesn't predict how he'll look when teams are "bringing it" full speed and game-planning to confuse him during the season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just because it’s fluff doesn’t mean it’s not true. Carry on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: is this just a fluff piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 As we've seen in other threads obviously Shady is in danger of getting cut. He's saying nice things about Allen so that doesn't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, White Linen said: As we've seen in other threads obviously Shady is in danger of getting cut. He's saying nice things about Allen so that doesn't happen. I highly doubt Shady will get cut this season .... Being here in 2020 is a whole different topic https://fansided.com/2019/06/26/josh-allen-bills-projections-2019/ Bills need LeSean McCoy to be right about Josh Allen If the Bills are going to improve on last season’s 6-10 record they will need better play from the quarterback position. Josh Allen showed flashes of quality play during his rookie season, but he’s got a long way to go before he lives up to his status as the No. 7 overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. The good news for Buffalo fans is that some of his teammates are seeing real signs of progress this offseason. Running back LeSean McCoy believes his second-year signal caller looks a lot more “confident” than he did last season. That’s not uncommon for players who make the transition from mid-major college football to the NFL. Edited June 27, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Until the AP shames an admission out of Josh that yes, HE TOO needs to show improvement this year, then it's all fluff pieces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I highly doubt Shady will get cut this season .... Being here in 2020 is a whole different topic https://fansided.com/2019/06/26/josh-allen-bills-projections-2019/ Bills need LeSean McCoy to be right about Josh Allen If the Bills are going to improve on last season’s 6-10 record they will need better play from the quarterback position. Josh Allen showed flashes of quality play during his rookie season, but he’s got a long way to go before he lives up to his status as the No. 7 overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. The good news for Buffalo fans is that some of his teammates are seeing real signs of progress this offseason. Running back LeSean McCoy believes his second-year signal caller looks a lot more “confident” than he did last season. That’s not uncommon for players who make the transition from mid-major college football to the NFL. No, I read it. It said "Could Shady be done in Buffalo"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I remember reading all about how EJ looked more confident. I also read that he got smarter and stronger too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: I remember reading all about how EJ looked more confident. I also read that he got smarter and stronger too. He got relatively smarter when they dumbed down the playbook to a point where it was equal to his intellect, at which point he declared (in May before his rookie TC) that it was "easier to learn" than the FSU playbook. Hilarity, and then sadness, ensued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: I remember reading all about how EJ looked more confident. I also read that he got smarter and stronger too. In EJ's first season, did he look even remotely as good as Josh did last year? Didn't think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: In EJ's first season, did he look even remotely as good as Josh did last year? Didn't think so. While there's no doubt that Allen is more talented I don't think their rookie seasons are that different. They both got thrown into the starting job because of injury/mismanagement/rubber mats and performed poorly. They then performed a lot better but not quite good enough leaving fans thinking the best is yet to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I'm about to go fluff myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 As soon as Allen hurdled that guy to get a 1st down, I knew we had our QB. He’s just a first rate competitor - no ego, just win. I have very high expectations this season, 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 It’s be an issue if he was less confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 10 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: McCoy says Bills' Josh Allen 'looks more confident' http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001034672/article/mccoy-says-bills-josh-allen-looks-more-confident the question .... is this just a fluff piece? It's not a fluff piece. I absolutely expect improvement. And have no doubt that he'll improve, that he knows more or that he's smart and a hard worker. I absolutely expect significant improvement. It's reasonable to do so. How much improvement, that's the question. Plenty of QBs who will never be very good QBs still improve from their first to their second years. On the other hand, nearly every QB who turns out to be a franchise guy also improves. All of them do, really. We just have to see how much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, WhoTom said: In EJ's first season, did he look even remotely as good as Josh did last year? Didn't think so. In running, no. Josh is in another league. In passing, overall, yeah. Manuel actually had better stats, though basically both looked like rookies. Higher completion percentage, better TD/INT ratio. Josh has a better YPA, but not good, just less bad (5.8 to 6.5). Manuel had a much better INT %, a better passer rating. On the other hand, Josh did look significantly better at the end of the year. Can't be bothered to break them both down and look at how each was at the end of the year, but from what I remember, Allen at the end of the year was looking better than Manuel. Hard to say, though, maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part. I was hopeful about Manuel, but I think Allen has a significantly better chance to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: In running, no. Josh is in another league. In passing, overall, yeah. Manuel actually had better stats, though basically both looked like rookies. Higher completion percentage, better TD/INT ratio. Josh has a better YPA, but not good, just less bad (5.8 to 6.5). Manuel had a much better INT %, a better passer rating. On the other hand, Josh did look significantly better at the end of the year. Can't be bothered to break them both down and look at how each was at the end of the year, but from what I remember, Allen at the end of the year was looking better than Manuel. Hard to say, though, maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part. I was hopeful about Manuel, but I think Allen has a significantly better chance to be good. That’s gross. EJ was one of the worst throwers of the football I have ever seen, I said that while he was at FSU. He was always way to robotic physically and he had the processing speed of a drunken Irish broad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Success said: As soon as Allen hurdled that guy to get a 1st down, I knew we had our QB. He’s just a first rate competitor - no ego, just win. I have very high expectations this season, And at the same time we yelled don't do hat ***** we need you 11 hours ago, CommonCents said: That’s gross. EJ was one of the worst throwers of the football I have ever seen, I said that while he was at FSU. He was always way to robotic physically and he had the processing speed of a drunken Irish broad. Nate Peterman or EJ Manuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: And at the same time we yelled don't do hat ***** we need you Nate Peterman or EJ Manuel? Nate is a natural thrower, he just has the arm of a middle school kid. If I had to take one for a game I’m taking EJ. He had more mobility and could atleast throw it with some velocity. Equally as gross though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 We'll see. He has an awfully long way to go. We get all this sunshine blown up you-know-where every offseason and preseason. I don't put much stock in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Allen looks more confident! Should we pencil him in now for next year's Superbowl MVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Allen looks more confident! Should we pencil him in now for next year's Superbowl MVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 51 minutes ago, GreggTX said: We'll see. He has an awfully long way to go. We get all this sunshine blown up you-know-where every offseason and preseason. I don't put much stock in this. And we get these sulfur fumes blown out you-know-where every offseason and preseason. I don't put much stock in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abill in Denver Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 4:07 PM, Success said: As soon as Allen hurdled that guy to get a 1st down, I knew we had our QB. He’s just a first rate competitor - no ego, just win. I have very high expectations this season, That was the same moment for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 6:14 PM, Bangarang said: It’s be an issue if he was less confident I agree with this. I don't see confidence as an issue with Allen, so I'm not particularly swayed that he looks MORE confident. He needs to get more efficient, find the soft spot in the defense, deliver the ball more quickly, and hit the gimmies. Confidence seemed to be an issue with EJ. I have no idea if Allen will pan out, but confidence is not something I worry about with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 6:01 PM, Steve Billieve said: While there's no doubt that Allen is more talented I don't think their rookie seasons are that different. They both got thrown into the starting job because of injury/mismanagement/rubber mats and performed poorly. They then performed a lot better but not quite good enough leaving fans thinking the best is yet to come. There's going to be a lot of upset Bills fans if Allen turns out good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: There's going to be a lot of upset Bills fans if Allen turns out good. I think Allen will be good! Just trying to temper my excitement and remind myself that I thought EJ would be good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Steve Billieve said: I think Allen will be good! Just trying to temper my excitement and remind myself that I thought EJ would be good too. Sorry, not directed at you. Just in general how a lot of people are betting the under on Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eball Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: There's going to be a lot of upset Bills fans if Allen turns out good. I really don't think that's true. They'll just find something else to gripe about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerbelly Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 7:47 PM, Thurman#1 said: In running, no. Josh is in another league. In passing, overall, yeah. Manuel actually had better stats, though basically both looked like rookies. Higher completion percentage, better TD/INT ratio. Josh has a better YPA, but not good, just less bad (5.8 to 6.5). Manuel had a much better INT %, a better passer rating. On the other hand, Josh did look significantly better at the end of the year. Can't be bothered to break them both down and look at how each was at the end of the year, but from what I remember, Allen at the end of the year was looking better than Manuel. Hard to say, though, maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part. I was hopeful about Manuel, but I think Allen has a significantly better chance to be good. Allen is a leader. EJ, well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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