Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 We love Kay Adams, right? In this segment, they go ‘round the room discussing who the best CB playing today is. Ms. Adams believes it’s Tre White. I love the Survivor Series comparison for 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 They all seem like nice people but this show is pretty hard to take seriously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 How bout the first round CB's in 2017? Marshon Latimore Marlon Humphrey Andoree Jackson Gareon Conley (is he any good) And Tre. Serious group right there... 3 or 4 of the best CBs in the league! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Who am I to argue with bae 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Kenny Golloday says otherwise. Tre 'D' gotta get Golloday back before he can be mentioned as being the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) Just glad, in spite of McDermott being played into gift wrapping Mahommes by his mentor, Andy Reid, that the Bills have White. Edited May 24, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Kenny Golloday says otherwise. Tre 'D' gotta get Golloday back before he can be mentioned as being the best. Nah - Allen and Foster had his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I said it before, and I'll say it again...........Kay Adams? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Nah - Allen and Foster had his back. I don't see the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I knew I liked her for some reason! And this didn’t hurt either..... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: They all seem like nice people but this show is pretty hard to take seriously. Yeah, I mean who wants fun and positivity with their football? We need more crummy garbage spewers like Sullivan and every local ny sports radio jockey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 yep, she’s one of the best in the biz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, White Linen said: They all seem like nice people but this show is pretty hard to take seriously. It was better before, I haven’t seen them much lately but I was home today and they seemed ridiculous. “Talk about it” Holy smokes if that ever catches on I’m going to lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 she supposedly dated amendola though ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Kenny Golloday says otherwise. Tre 'D' gotta get Golloday back before he can be mentioned as being the best. Pretty sure there isn't a single CB in the league today, even the elites of the elites, who hasn't had a rough game in their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: We love Kay Adams, right? In this segment, they go ‘round the room discussing who the best CB playing today is. Ms. Adams believes it’s Tre White. I love the Survivor Series comparison for 2018. Jay Skurski has a really good Q&A with Tre on TBN. (paywall) https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/23/buffalo-bills-nfl-tredavious-white-skurski/ Couple key points: 1) points out that Tre's passes defensed numbers seemed to take a step back because he just wasn't thrown at as much: " As a rookie, White was targeted 81 times, according to analytics website Pro Football Focus. That number dropped to 52 times in 2018. White's coverage snaps per reception was 17.5, according to PFF, which ranked fifth in the NFL among 80 players who were in on at least 350 coverage snaps. Simply put, quarterbacks just didn't throw White's way as much last season. " 2) Tre says he got too caught up on taking a guy out at times: "When I was shadowing guys, I sort of lost focus of the whole defense and just got into one-on-one battles. That's never good, because you leave your teammates out to dry sometimes. It's a selfish way to play, because you're going out there and you just want to dominate this one guy when overall there's a defensive scheme that you have to follow. ........Going into this year, whenever I'm trailing guys, I won't let that happen." Team game 3) On Vontae: "I know him on a personal level, and we still text to this day. He's one of those guys you always root for....... The conversations we've had, I understood where he was coming from when he made that move. A lot of people wouldn't because they don't know everything that goes into it, so they just think he quit on the team, but ultimately it was just a lot of things that he had going on. He had to step away from the game because he felt like his life and his future and his well-being was overall bigger than the game of football, which is true." True, Tre, maybe he had reasons, even good reasons, but he still quit on the team by retiring at halftime. I guess that's the "thin blue line" thing, don't expect one guy to critique a guy in the same line of work 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, MJS said: Pretty sure there isn't a single CB in the league today, even the elites of the elites, who hasn't had a rough game in their prime. By that logic, Revis was highly overrated and exposed as a fraud by Stevie Johnson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: Pretty sure there isn't a single CB in the league today, even the elites of the elites, who hasn't had a rough game in their prime. IJS, Tre'D' needs to rectify that if he gets his chance again because it was a shockingly, horrible game. He just couldn't stop the bleeding. There was also the game against the Jets, where he defended Robby Anderson and gave up the big gain late that allowed the go-ahead TD, in the Jets/Darnold comeback win. He has to take his game to a higher level, otherwise he will continue to be thought of as being a Tier 2 CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I’ve always thought highly of Ms. Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Kenny Golloday says otherwise. Tre 'D' gotta get Golloday back before he can be mentioned as being the best. And Revis used to get eaten alive by Stevie Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: IJS, Tre'D' needs to rectify that if he gets his chance again because it was a shockingly, horrible game. He just couldn't stop the bleeding. There was also the game against the Jets, where he defended Robby Anderson and gave up the big gain late that allowed the go-ahead TD, in the Jets/Darnold comeback win. He has to take his game to a higher level, otherwise he will continue to be thought of as being a Tier 2 CB. Most of this is unreadable. What I can make out is ridiculous. Enjoy your holiday drunk fest. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, Chandler#81 said: Most of this is unreadable. What I can make out is ridiculous. Enjoy your holiday drunk fest. What I glean is that as long as White continues to allow completions, he's a 2nd tier CB. The "elites" apparently bat 1000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Most of this is unreadable. What I can make out is ridiculous. Enjoy your holiday drunk fest. I opened this thread and thought maybe it was one of those French Canadian articles translated to English. "The thrower made the skin of pig fly through the air with preciseness and muscle while the catcher gave the defender false intentions in order to receive the oval." 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Most of this is unreadable. What I can make out is ridiculous. Enjoy your holiday drunk fest. I’m really hoping for his sake he’s drunk. Sadly I don’t think he is. Let’s not forget that he was “ride or die” for peterman until the very end. I dont know of anyone, bills fan, media, or other teams fans, that know football and think white is “tier 2” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, H2o said: And Revis used to get eaten alive by Stevie Johnson. Revis was well-established and made the Pro Bowl in each of those seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: IJS, Tre'D' needs to rectify that if he gets his chance again because it was a shockingly, horrible game. He just couldn't stop the bleeding. There was also the game against the Jets, where he defended Robby Anderson and gave up the big gain late that allowed the go-ahead TD, in the Jets/Darnold comeback win. He has to take his game to a higher level, otherwise he will continue to be thought of as being a Tier 2 CB. Wow this is really bad. Just now, BurpleBull said: Revis was well-established and made the Pro Bowl in each of those seasons. Your argument that Tre isn’t a top tier corner and your examples of two bad games. So if you’re a young and up and comer...you aren’t allowed bad games. If you’re established vet...those don’t count or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wow this is really bad. No it isn't. Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Whatever happened to Bonnie Bernstein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Most of this is unreadable. What I can make out is ridiculous. Enjoy your holiday drunk fest. That'll happen when you only watch a quarter of the season, and cling to Kay Adams' breakdown of the parts you missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: That'll happen when you only watch a quarter of the season, and cling to Kay Adams' breakdown of the parts you missed. You only watch a quarter of the season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: You only watch a quarter of the season? Poor assumption considering it's your infatuation with Kay Adams, that led to her assessment of Tre'D'---which is founded on a Week 6 performance---being a topic of discussion. Even Tre'D' knows that there's more that he has to show, if he's to be considered the 'league's best'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Yeah, I mean who wants fun and positivity with their football? We need more crummy garbage spewers like Sullivan and every local ny sports radio jockey. Did you miss the part I said they were really nice people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 16 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Kenny Golloday says otherwise. Tre 'D' gotta get Golloday back before he can be mentioned as being the best. Robbie Anderson toasted him too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Robbie Anderson toasted him too He did. I like Tre'D' a lot, think he's very good, and feel like he could be on the cusp of becoming one of the elites; I just think he's off by a little currently, based on his sophomore season. I think next season could be the year where he's emerges as an undoubted, premier corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 The fact that he is in the conversation when he was taken at 27, the 4th CB off the board, works for me. McD’s first draft and first pick, not too shabby... [yes, I know he passed on Mahomes] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Robbie Anderson toasted him too Anderson got 22, 48, and 76 yards against the Bills in his last three games -- I'd hardly call that "toasted." Edited May 25, 2019 by thurst44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 11 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Poor assumption considering it's your infatuation with Kay Adams, that led to her assessment of Tre'D'---which is founded on a Week 6 performance---being a topic of discussion. Even Tre'D' knows that there's more that he has to show, if he's to be considered the 'league's best'. League's BEST and tier two are ENTIRELY different things. I think we'd all agree he needs to improve if he wants to be considered the league's best. He had a few lapses last season and did not perform as well as he did as a rookie. To be the best, he's going to have to improve his timing and tracking. I'm still putting him firmly in the "tier one" group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, thurst44 said: Anderson got 22, 48, and 76 yards against the Bills in his last three games -- I'd hardly call that "toasted." Your cherry picking stats. In the game against NYJ at home White was burned on several big catches because he couldn’t cover Anderson. When it mattered, he was indeed“toasted” by Anderson. He couldn’t make a play when needed. Not the same for Anderson. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s very good and that he had an excellent rookie year. But I’d like to see him have less moments like he had against Anderson before talking about his being the best CB in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Tre is great. Every CB gives up some catches. But I don't think he is an elite CB just yet. Perhaps a better pass rush and another year of experience will let him become elite. I was impressed Frazier and McD changed their philosophy and allowed Tre to shadow the best WR. Hope they continue that next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I realize this type of hindsight thinking isn't productive, but can you imagine if we had somehow paid Gilmore the money his agent thought he was worth two years ago? White and Gilmore as your two shutdown CB's would have been a lot of fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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