YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Edited May 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Is rookie mini camp over I thought it went into Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Good for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 You never know. Good luck, kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Moral? Sounds like a Process kinda guy... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Moral? Sounds like a Process kinda guy... Surprised that took so long! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well the agent sounds pretty full of himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Tough to find much information on him. What I found is that he went to the University of Florida where he was an underutilized backup. What little I could find in the way of a scouting report suggested in his few opportunities he exhibited some flashes both in receiving and blocking. As a receiver, he averaged over 17 yards per catch, but that was on like about 15 receptions. He is a fraction under 6'3" and weighs 247 lbs, if the info I saw was accurate. He times at 4.82 in the 40. None of that is great, but then he is a UDFA. If he ran a 4.60 and led his team in receptions he'd have been drafted in round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Here's a link to his highlight reel. From his Junior year of High School. Why? The internet, that's why. https://247sports.com/Video/Moral-Stephens-JR-highlight-reel-2012-740871/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Anymore Tight Ends coming? 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Looks like a lot of TE use this year with how many they are bringing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Looks like a lot of TE use this year with how many they are bringing in. I think it has to do with they aren't satisfied with who we have as far as starters and depth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, DJB said: I think it has to do with they aren't satisfied with who we have as far as starters and depth I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Frez said: I agree! I know many have alluded to how Beane reacted when Hockenson was picked giving us Oliver believing that his reaction meant we had no interest in him, but the amount of players and money Beane has invested in the TE position tells me that unless they are quite incompetent, Hockenson was high on their board. It just so happens that Oliver was higher that's all. Edited May 12, 2019 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Looks like a young version of Charles Clay. Welcome aboard...(I'd say choo choo...but that pic by House makes it less funny) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Like the competition at the position. One day the Bills will have a ProBowl TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Looks like a lot of TE use this year with how many they are bringing in. They started the offseason with only one under contract (Croom), which is unusual and why it seems like so many adds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: Well the agent sounds pretty full of himself! Or proud of his player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: Or proud of his player Certainly both, but read it again. The agent “created an opportunity”? The players ability made him desirable, and the agent mentioned himself first. Read it any way you like, that was some self-promotion in my eyes. NOT saying that’s a terrible thing, but it seemed a little too obvious (or possible just unaware of nuance) for me. But that’s just me. Take it any way you like. I’m not claiming to read his mind. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Certainly both, but read it again. The agent “created an opportunity”? The players ability made him desirable, and the agent mentioned himself first. Read it any way you like, that was some self-promotion in my eyes. NOT saying that’s a terrible thing, but it seemed a little too obvious (or possible just unaware of nuance) for me. But that’s just me. Take it any way you like. I’m not claiming to read his mind. Oh, I agree. I also wonder if he is new at this and the fact that he had a player get picked up makes him proud. The "proud" could be pointed at his player not his own work.but Mr Vazquez doent know proper terminology... BTW, What card do I have in my hand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Looks like a lot of TE use this year with how many they are bringing in. Or we only have 2 solidly making the roster and letting guys fight it out is good business on the 90 man. Carrying 5 for 3 spots is pretty on ratio for what a 90 should look like 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Oh, I agree. I also wonder if he is new at this and the fact that he had a player get picked up makes him proud. The "proud" could be pointed at his player not his own work.but Mr Vazquez doent know proper terminology... BTW, What card do I have in my hand? I’m sure it’s a very difficult business in which a young guy can get a foothold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Augie said: Certainly both, but read it again. The agent “created an opportunity”? The players ability made him desirable, and the agent mentioned himself first. Read it any way you like, that was some self-promotion in my eyes. NOT saying that’s a terrible thing, but it seemed a little too obvious (or possible just unaware of nuance) for me. But that’s just me. Take it any way you like. I’m not claiming to read his mind. Not wasn’t humble by any means but if he had few to no invites and the agent worked some magic- I can see why a young guy would accidentally include himself in the brag there. Especially when trying to show his own skills to upcoming clients. Youve been around long enough to see quiet success can easily trump loud bragging - but it’s often a tough lesson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Augie said: Well the agent sounds pretty full of himself! Commendation for his client and self promotion are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I'm sure, though, that he wants to get his name out there for potential future clients to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Commendation for his client and self promotion are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I'm sure, though, that he wants to get his name out there for potential future clients to see. See above when I said “certainly both”. I get it. Really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Like being a politician or a pro athlete, every agent has a huge ego. The only ones you think don’t in those professions hide it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Augie said: Certainly both, but read it again. The agent “created an opportunity”? The players ability made him desirable, and the agent mentioned himself first. Read it any way you like, that was some self-promotion in my eyes. NOT saying that’s a terrible thing, but it seemed a little too obvious (or possible just unaware of nuance) for me. But that’s just me. Take it any way you like. I’m not claiming to read his mind. Definitely not Jerry Maguire material.......violates the whole Maguire manifesto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 cutting him would make this team amoral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, /dev/null said: cutting him would make this team amoral Or Coach thought we lacked the sufficient amount of Morals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, JoeF said: Or Coach thought we lacked the sufficient amount of Morals Do we need Morals to match Williams? Sounds like a daunting task for the FO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 This signing now leaves us at 88. Two more to get to 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Do we need Morals to match Williams? Sounds like a daunting task for the FO! Do we have enough Olivers to make a decent martini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: Do we have enough Olivers to make a decent martini? I try to steal the olives when they're not looking! I think we stole our Oliver while the whole world was watching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Maybe Beane wants to field 11 TEs on the field on offense at the same time. Enough with the TEs already!! This is in no way an attack on Moral Stephens. Just want register a protest on the “Moral”ity of signing yet another TE. Edited May 13, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Maybe Beane wants to field 11 TEs on the field on offense at the same time. Enough with the TEs already!! This is in no way an attack on Moral Stephens. Just want register a protest on the “Moral”ity of signing yet another TE. If it’s a showcase, and the kid catches on somewhere else I’ll be thrilled. I wish him nothing but he best, and I respect them for giving him a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, fansince88 said: BTW, What card do I have in my hand? 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: This signing now leaves us at 88. Two more to get to 90 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Practice squad going to be 8 tight ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Looks like a lot of TE use this year with how many they are bringing in. They are certainly turning over every rock to try to find what they're looking for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: 8 We all have that 1 Uncle..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, DJB said: I think it has to do with they aren't satisfied with who we have as far as starters and depth You may be right but it may just be that none of these guys have much of a history of actual on field performance. They may be playing it safe by bringing in a larger number of guys hoping to hit it on a couple of them. Similar to their approach on the o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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