Richard Noggin Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Anthony Nelson. See, my thinking is that if it's not a guy (at DE specifically) with legitimate starter potential, like a hidden gem or a guy who fell for whatever reasons, then he won't make the 53-man team. The Bills have a logjam of back-of-the-rotation DEs right now. Guys who can play, but shouldn't necessarily start. Difficult room to break into, though, for a later pick. 4 or 5 legitimate NFL rotation-level players ahead of him. But I don't know much about Nelson, to be honest. Maybe he's got ability. I fancy another TE, LB, S, and/or CB moving forward. I guess a flyer on a plummeting WR makes sense, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: All I know is that there are going to be a inordinate amount of Bills fans that are going to say, without ever seeing these two players, that Singletarys ridiculous amount of touchdowns means and proves nothing, and Knox's nary a touchdown means and proves everything and he sucks. Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Wonder why other respectable franchises were drafting RBs with similar projections in the same area of the draft. I guess they didn't figure out that you can get them anywhere any time. Or...? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 When I started reading this thread I was upset that I missed the pick, and they chose an irrelevant mediocre guy I'd never heard of. After reviewing the comments and supporting data, it looks like a great pick to me. But then again, I am a car guy in Missouri who reads up on this stuff every day, as opposed to a group of professional scouts who spend their lives studying these players. I know nothing. Never heard of Robert Foster, Levi Jones, Matt Milano, Tredavious, Siran Neal, bunch of players. I have heard of Devin Singletary. I watched some highlights of him and was hoping they'd choose him. I really wanted Ed Oliver, and I'm glad they got him. Cody Ford was picked in most mocks anywhere from #12 to #25. He's a mauler. Great pick. I trust these guys more than you guys. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: If anything, New England’s actions signify both Singletary and Knox would be Patriots had we not taken them where we did. If true, that's petty. Me likey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Why does this matter? They had poor production. I want production. 7th round TEs have had better production. I don't care. I want him to be good. Really pulling for him. I'd have preferred picking someone else. such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Richard Noggin said: See, my thinking is that if it's not a guy (at DE specifically) with legitimate starter potential, like a hidden gem or a guy who fell for whatever reasons, then he won't make the 53-man team. The Bills have a logjam of back-of-the-rotation DEs right now. Guys who can play, but shouldn't necessarily start. Difficult room to break into, though, for a later pick. 4 or 5 legitimate NFL rotation-level players ahead of him. But I don't know much about Nelson, to be honest. Maybe he's got ability. I fancy another TE, LB, S, and/or CB moving forward. I guess a flyer on a plummeting WR makes sense, too. Nelson had some flashes and is worth a shot but who knows how these later round picks will do or any pick for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Stop stat reading.. my goodness.. The game is played on the field not in stat sheets. The guy we’re getting isn’t the guy on the stat page. He’s fast, can block and catch, if he’s utilized in the game plan he can be a HUGE weapon. Funny how few people understand this. This should be pinned on the home page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’m going to doubt his ability based on his name alone. Doesn’t sound like a guy who’s jersey you’ll be buying. I had a Bills coat handed down to me with "Knox" on back when I went off to college in 1979. I was told it was from a friend of Chuck Knox and since he and his friend had other signed stuff from him (they did work on his house) I believed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, akm0404 said: Wonder why other respectable franchises were drafting RBs with similar projections in the same area of the draft. I guess they didn't figure out that you can get them anywhere any time. Or...? Fred Jackson says Hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: All I know is that there are going to be a inordinate amount of Bills fans that are going to say, without ever seeing these two players, that Singletarys ridiculous amount of touchdowns means and proves nothing, and Knox's nary a touchdown means and proves everything and he sucks. It's all well and good that they do. What I don't get is why people reply to the obvious trolling or enjoyment of biatching. Do Not Feed. Knox is fine with me. Singletary made me scratch my head but I never heard of the guy. The Bills did have a Workout with him AND went to his Pro Day so I will leave it to them. He sure runs with crazy quick changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, George C said: The Bills have too many picks to actually sign this year.. We all know this, except you. Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: I somewhat agree but some of the best tight ends in the NFL had similar production to Knox in college, ei Jimmy Graham, George Kittle. Yeah I'm sure TE is certainly a position you have to project more than most due to circumstance. Jimmy Graham was a special case being a basketball player switching late like Antonio Gates. Heck i'd draft undersized centers on the NBA bubble with zero football numbers. Those guys have the skills. He is similar to George Kittle tho I see that. Another part of the reason is exactly because the TE routes are so dependent on QB preference we don't know if JA gives a stud TE Jimmy Graham at NO numbers or Jimmy Graham at GB numbers. Of course we won't know until we know eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Never heard of him , any ole miss fan’s on here ? Or anyone has any info on him besides the one ( 0- TD’s ) I hope? he can run/catch and NOT mainly for blocking Edited April 27, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Meh. There were better TEs to take instead of the RB and that would be better for Allen. It's a QB league. I get the age on the RBs, but the TEs taken between us and honestly a shot in the dark with someone with very limited production is underwhelming. I like the measurables of both, but it sure sounds like Beane panicked with a RB run, made a move and missed on the TEs. Better move would have been TE IMO and then worry about RB (which are a dime a dozen, whereas TEs aren't) JMO I can't argue that fact that Beane panicked because I don't know but only 4 RB's were taken before Buffalo selected so there were many to choose from which has me thinking that he was the best player on the board. And to me Knox is all about potential, he runs fast, decent but not elite blocker, can get open in space, has decent hands and his 18.9 YPC average is impressive. He's a project but after round 2 most GM's state they draft for need and they obviously liked him alot to give up those 4th rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I like knox but we should have drafted him before the RB and just drafted him in the 4rth. And of course he would have been there waiting for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Fred Jackson says Hi. The exception doesn't prove the rule. Fallacy 101, good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Anytime McDermott realizes they need to draft pass catchers for the QB they took makes me happy. And I'll be convinced he uses them when he lets Allen throw 25-35 times a game, especially with all that they've put into the OL. Cause if he continues trying predominantly to run the ball and playing strong defense it ain't gonna end well for McCoach. I believe this was the guy that someone said they wanted. If the draft ended today I would be content. I expect a trade into the fourth and they will have 5 or 6 players like I said they would. The only disappointing thing for me is they didnt trade up for D.K. but maybe Im getting greedy there. Edited April 27, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Fun fact: I have as many receiving TDs for Ole Miss as Knox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp seems fair based on the draft pick value chart. #112 (70pts) + #131 (41pts) for #96 (116pt) Plus this is a DEEP roster , so I have no problem with trading up. Especially for a player that should see significant playing time . Wouldn't mind seeing a trade up tmrw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: And of course he would have been there waiting for us no big deal if hes not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: such as? Shannon Sharpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, akm0404 said: The exception doesn't prove the rule. Fallacy 101, good sir. Lol, tons of RBs are found latter or undrafted. We need legit receiving threats not another RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: no big deal if hes not The bills apparently thought it was Just now, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Shannon Sharpe ok....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: Fun fact: I have as many receiving TDs for Ole Miss as Knox True. But you weren't scouted and drafted by the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Lol, tons of RBs are found latter or undrafted. We need legit receiving threats not another RB. Name the legit receiving threats we are missing out on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Fun fact: I have as many receiving TDs for Ole Miss as Knox Can you run a 4.51 40 at 250+ lbs.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: The bills apparently thought it was their draft history isnt great. Zay jones is a jag and now Dawkins is on shaky ground. Look i love this regime but they have made questionable choices with this roster. Thank God we have Allen or we would be still bottom feeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Soooo... clearly this is why the guy wasn't one of the top TEs, just trusting the process and assuming McBeane coveted this guy enough to trade up for him and view him as a legitimate long term TE. Measurables actually look strikingly similar to Hock. And he's a converted QB, so that's an added dimension. Any listing of his 40 time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Lol, tons of RBs are found latter or undrafted. We need legit receiving threats not another RB. What if I told you that the team didn't feel that there would be a receiver available at pick 8 in the 4th round that was a more "legit receiving threat" than our current #4 receiver Zay Jones? That doesn't seem impossible for me to believe, being as that is the minimum bar to get on the field for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Shannon Sharpe Makes sense....Wait, no it doesn't. He's in the Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Fred Jackson says Hi. What was he drafted in this draft? Hmmm Patriots have Sony Michel who did they Draft this round. Ooo yeah a RB. Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 It looks as if Knox was drafted on his physical profile and his potential skill set. He's not a polished receiver. He's not a technically perfect blocker all the time, but what he does, he does well. This is a high school QB who walked on at Ole Miss and had to compete for receptions with two WRs touted in the pre-draft process as likely to be drafted in the top two rounds. A third Ole Miss Receiver is also likely to get drafted. That is not an environment where a walk-on is likely to get much of an opportunity. It looks like he's smart and a very quick study at the position. He's made huge strides. I don't think he will start in 2019 as Kroft has the inside track and Croom did some good things last season too. Knox is going to work at expanding his route tree and become an even better blocker. 2020 will be his opportunity to shine IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: their draft history isnt great. Zay jones is a jag and now Dawkins is on shaky ground. Look i love this regime but they have made questionable choices with this roster. Thank God we have Allen or we would be still bottom feeders. Beanes draft history has been pretty solid.......Zay is coming along slower then expected but improving every year.....Dawkins was our BEST offensive linemen last year....he isnt in danger of being cut...... Lets not make bs claims....you had a certain group of players you wanted that you didnt get.....it is as simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Soooo... clearly this is why the guy wasn't one of the top TEs, just trusting the process and assuming McBeane coveted this guy enough to trade up for him and view him as a legitimate long term TE. Measurables actually look strikingly similar to Hock. And he's a converted QB, so that's an added dimension. Any listing of his 40 time? 4.51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: ok....... Haha what. He put up monster numbers. It's a safer bet than projecting out workout warriors. Listen I understand why we like him and why we picked him. I understand why Barkevious Mingo was getting drooled over. It's high risk high return. Hope he works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Lol, tons of RBs are found latter or undrafted. We need legit receiving threats not another RB. It's funny that you think a WR was going to come right in here year 1 and take John Brown, Cole Beasley or Zay Jones spot from them knowing that WR is one of the biggest learning curves. Come on man your rant is a little stale, I get adding more weapons is key but there is more draft picks to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Can you run a 4.51 40 at 250+ lbs.? 4 minutes 51 seconds? Definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Beane didn’t “panic”. If you don’t like these last two picks, fine. But don’t project your own anxiety into the process. The RB’s production is outstanding. And, with a third round TE you draft on potential based on your own assessment, not so much production. Not many college TE’s have gaudy numbers. The looks good for the 3rd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said: Makes sense....Wait, no it doesn't. He's in the Hall of Fame. He asked me to name a 7th rounder with better production than Dawson Knox. I picked the best one haha. He put up monster numbers. You're damned sure I'd be happy if we drafted that production. I'm just playing the odds. Edited April 27, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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