Paulus Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) This is where Josh Rosen belongs. May Cerberus finally destroy the evil empire. I hope all three do well. I just hope Mr. Allen does more well! Punish the evil empire for the next century. Cards made a huge mistake. Edited April 26, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This is what makes no sense. If they came out at the same time, Rosen is ranked much higher than Jones. Now, he has a year of nfl experience. Plus, he might be cheaper because he went lower. Obviously not to Gettleman. Since nobody was willing to give Arizona anything higher than pick 48, it looks like after seeing Rosen in the NFL in 1 season, a lot of NFL GMs think at this point that Jones has more upside than Rosen. If you think the NYG picked Jones at 6 when he would definitely have been there at 17, you are underestimating what the other GMs thought of Jones and overestimating what they think of Rosen. Gettleman was concerned enough to take no chance on losing Jones before pick 17. Who knows, maybe the Dolphins would have gladly spent their 1st rounder on Jones but would never think of surrendering it for Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: As if I needed another reason to actively dislike the Dolphins. Bring it!!! why would Rosen make you dislike the Dolphins more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 So the same thing gonna happen to josh next year when Miami drafts tua? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 This aged quite well... http://arizonasports.com/story/1512166/what-theyre-saying-about-the-cardinals-selection-of-josh-rosen/ In other news, Benoit who just gave us a "C" grade for Oliver, gave the Cards an "A" for Rosen in 2018. <sigh> to have job security like that guy with such meaningless hot air... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think the Fins are clear winners. Get a top 10 qb for a second rounder. Worse comes to worse, they draft a guy next year. I still think he can be very good and he got screwed. Either way, dude goes from LA to Phoenix to Miami. Not bad. He should be pissed. Can you imagine if that happens and Rosen has a guy drafted in the 1st round on him twice. I mean if that happens what can they even get for a guy that gets replaced twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Magox said: I think Rosen is going to have to update his infamous draft day quote to " There were TEN mistakes ahead of me" It's 47 or 44 if you delete the 2 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, nucci said: why would Rosen make you dislike the Dolphins more? Because he doesn’t like his politics. That’s Rosen “character concerns.” He asks questions and speaks up on social issues. More problematic than Jeffrey Simmons or Tyrell Hill in some teams’ minds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: Can you imagine if that happens and Rosen has a guy drafted in the 1st round on him twice. I mean if that happens what can they even get for a guy that gets replaced twice? ...and both times it was the #1 pick of the draft, in part due to Rosen's "contribution" to the team "attaining" that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Because he doesn’t like his politics. That’s Rosen “character concerns.” He asks questions and speaks up on social issues. More problematic than Jeffrey Simmons or Tyrell Hill in some teams’ minds. Will Bosa's politics be an issue in San Fran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Can you imagine if that happens and Rosen has a guy drafted in the 1st round on him twice. I mean if that happens what can they even get for a guy that gets replaced twice? Honestly, it can happen with any young qb. If Allen doesn’t improve, we will talk about replacing him. Same with Darnold. They don’t let you develop qbs anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, nucci said: why would Rosen make you dislike the Dolphins more? I know, it doesn't seem possible, right? But somehow even though he couldn't hold down the AZ gig, he's still managed that one. Sorry, just don't like him (from a fan standpoint only--I have no idea how he's like in "real life," FWIW). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Will Bosa's politics be an issue in San Fran? My 49ers buddy thinks so. Apparently he purged a TON of old tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Can you imagine if that happens and Rosen has a guy drafted in the 1st round on him twice. I mean if that happens what can they even get for a guy that gets replaced twice? can u imagine, rosen, darnold and allen all in the afc east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I know, it doesn't seem possible, right? But somehow even though he couldn't hold down the AZ gig, he's still managed that one. Sorry, just don't like him (from a fan standpoint only--I have no idea how he's like in "real life," FWIW). ahh, ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Will Bosa's politics be an issue in San Fran? Yes he was asked about it in his first press conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Will Bosa's politics be an issue in San Fran? Not if he sacks the quarterback on a regular basis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Will Bosa's politics be an issue in San Fran? That’s what I don’t get. Part of what makes football great is you have a wide range of personalities. I would rather people keep their politics private because I don’t care. But I would be fine with Bosa and Rosen. And that did hurt Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, bkep32 said: can u imagine, rosen, darnold and allen all in the afc east well yeah...because it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: ...and both times it was the #1 pick of the draft, in part due to Rosen's "contribution" to the team "attaining" that pick. They fired their first year head coach and OC during the season. But yes, it’s the rookie qb’s fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s what I don’t get. Part of what makes football great is you have a wide range of personalities. I would rather people keep their politics private because I don’t care. But I would be fine with Bosa and Rosen. And that did hurt Rosen. You get that issue in any field of endeavor. As soon as you start taking sides, you will anger somebody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They fired their first year head coach and OC during the season. But yes, it’s the rookie qb’s fault. and all 5 of their starting O-Lineman got hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think the Fins are clear winners. Get a top 10 qb for a second rounder. Worse comes to worse, they draft a guy next year. I still think he can be very good and he got screwed. I really don't think he will be much more than Tanenhill part deux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Josh Rosen to the Dolphins with a new defensive-minded HC...on the worst talented team in the AFC. I almost feel sorry for Rosen... almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: They fired their first year head coach and OC during the season. But yes, it’s the rookie qb’s fault. I'm rooting for the same thing to take place in Miami this year, but I doubt it will happen because Gase was fired for wanting to win & if Miami gets the #1 pick, management will have a Mission Accomplished banner hanging at their 1st post season presser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: This aged quite well... http://arizonasports.com/story/1512166/what-theyre-saying-about-the-cardinals-selection-of-josh-rosen/ In other news, Benoit who just gave us a "C" grade for Oliver, gave the Cards an "A" for Rosen in 2018. <sigh> to have job security like that guy with such meaningless hot air... Channeling Bill Tobin...Who the hell is Andy Benoit? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: I really don't think he will be much more than Tanenhill part deux Maybe. He also basically had the same passing stats as our qb. Just like we would be stupid to give up on Allen now, I think it’s a good risk for the Fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s what I don’t get. Part of what makes football great is you have a wide range of personalities. I would rather people keep their politics private because I don’t care. But I would be fine with Bosa and Rosen. And that did hurt Rosen. Rosen rubbed a lot of GM's the wrong way as being outspoken, a know it all, and brash. There were some Jay Cutler and Jeff George comparisons. Just not a very likable person who lacks leadership skills. A lot of teams (including possibly ours) soured on him because of that reputation. I don't think politics played a big part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Wait til the Dolphins ditch him next year for Tua. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Maybe. He also basically had the same passing stats as our qb. Just like we would be stupid to give up on Allen now, I think it’s a good risk for the Fins. Yeah but I don't see him hurdling Anthony Barr anytime soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, bkep32 said: can u imagine, rosen, darnold and allen all in the afc east Could be an interesting dynamic with Allen and Darnold appearing to be friends and Rosen having a massive chip on his shoulder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The Fins got the wrong Josh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Well, dang. I generally want to Phins to be a dumpster fire and this could actually suit them well. I don't know if Rosen is going to bounce back but I was really hoping the Dolphins were just tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Now on NFL Network they're saying the Dolphins think pick 48 is too high & are putting heat on Arizona to lower the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I still think Rosen is going to be good to very good in this league. Good move for the fish. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I'm rooting for the same thing to take place in Miami this year, but I doubt it will happen because Gase was fired for wanting to win & if Miami gets the #1 pick, management will have a Mission Accomplished banner hanging at their 1st post season presser. I kinda like their new coach. Also, if they start Fins, I bet they don’t get the #1 overall. Fitz will win some games for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 20 hours ago, whatdrought said: Based on what everyone else says, that would be a major overpay. Results are all that matters. The cards just made a mistake they'll regret for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: Now on NFL Network they're saying the Dolphins think pick 48 is too high & are putting heat on Arizona to lower the price. I mean in a vacuum, I think 48 is a steal for a guy drafted top 10 last year. But the Cards have no leverage and need to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I mean in a vacuum, I think 48 is a steal for a guy drafted top 10 last year. But the Cards have no leverage and need to move him. Why? He's cheap for a while. If the value isn't there- hold him as a backup. Showcase him in the preseason, someone will get desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I liked Rosen going into the draft last year, and still think he could be a good QB. I like that each of the AFC East teams are going to end up with the top QBs from the 2018 class. I'll take an active balanced rivalry with the rest of the division over the crap we've all been through with the Pats. I also like that the Dolphins will most likely mess this up so we dont have to worry too much. WTF was Arizona thinking not taking calls and offers on him beforehand? They had the #1 pick! You dont have to keep secrets! I'm with you. I liked Rosen as well. But something tells me the Fin's will **** him up more than even Arizona did--just because that's who they are, to paraphrase Dennis Green. Anyway, the AFC East will always be interesting. Which is as it should be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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