Oh Gettleman

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Good call Kirbs. I definitely thought it was the clown show in Oakland. They weren't kidding either, Ferrell at 4 was a bit of a shock!

It had to be Gettleman. What a moron (Gruden too).

Edited April 26, 2019 by Kirby Jackson

[Bing Bong]

Gettleman is bad. That said I'd have gone that Duke QB over Haskins as well. Higher ceiling, Haskins feels like he'll be average at best. It's still a reach

 

But get your QB next year ole Gettleman. This isn't complicated.

Edited April 26, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P

[BruceVilanch]

This is an EJ manuel level of a reach.

[Wayne Cubed]

This is before the Baker pick but LOL

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said:

This is before the Baker pick but LOL

 

 

I wanted them to take Simmons at 17. I thought that it would be hilarious if they picked twice in the top 17 and neither guy played a snap in 2019.

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I wanted them to take Simmons at 17. I thought that it would be hilarious if they picked twice in the top 17 and neither guy played a snap in 2019.

And to contrast, I thought the Redskins did very well. Coming away with Haskins without breaking the bank, and then the jump back up to snag Sweat.

[BuffaloBill]

This may go down in history as one of the worst picks in a draft, ever.  Even highly touted QB’s are a huge 1st round risk and more often than not go bust.  A fourth round talent near the top of the draft?

[Bray Wyatt]

If they really wanted a rb (and believe me Saquon is great already) and they need a franchise QB to replace Eli, what do you think would have been better? Take one of Rosen/Allen/Darnold and Josh Jacobs (probably would have traded back and added more picks going this route)? Or Barkley and Jones?  To me it's a no brainer, having a transcendent rb without a qb doesnt win super bowls.

[Coach Tuesday]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

And to contrast, I thought the Redskins did very well. Coming away with Haskins without breaking the bank, and then the jump back up to snag Sweat.

 

I disagree.  Haskins will struggle there - offensive line is just meh, Gruden might not last until 2020, front office is full of back-stabbers.  Sweat is a dog, I get the sense he lacks professionalism.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

This may go down in history as one of the worst picks in a draft, ever.  Even highly touted QB’s are a huge 1st round risk and more often than not go bust.  A fourth round talent near the top of the draft?

 

......from a PFT poster......LMAO..............

 

oscarxray says:

April 25, 2019 at 9:09 pm

Excellent pick. He can sit all this season and then a new GM can pick another QB in 2022.

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

I disagree.  Haskins will struggle there - offensive line is just meh, Gruden might not last until 2020, front office is full of back-stabbers.  Sweat is a dog, I get the sense he lacks professionalism.

I don't know how they'll be as pros, but I think the Redskins got good value for them. If they were truly looking at moving into the top 10 to get Haskins then getting him without moving is a win. Sweat was in freefall and they moved up to grab him where they felt the value outweighed the cost. It was a pair of moves I can respect regardless of outcome.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

......from a PFT poster......LMAO..............

 

oscarxray says:

April 25, 2019 at 9:09 pm

 

Excellent pick. He can sit all this season and then a new GM can pick another QB in 2022.

What are the Vegas odds on Jones never playing for the Giants? I think they are high. 

[auburnbillsbacker]

If Jones can play then drafting him at 6 was the right decision.  I see no reason to bash the Giants at this point.

[YoloinOhio]

Ummm Dave. Ohio state, though their defense resembled it at times last year ...not in the Big 12, my man. 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ummm Dave. Ohio state, not in the Big 12, my man. 

 

 

...a special kind of stupid

[eball]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

To quote my man Bill Lumberg, "I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree."

 

It is much smarter to bust on a quarterback than it is to squander picks on players like Donte Whitner.  Selecting Jones raised a lot of eyebrows, but sadly we have seen WAY dumber moves.

 

C'mon, really.

 

Nope.  I know you and many others hated the Whitner pick but he was a legitimate starter and provided a benefit.  This is the dumbest pick I've ever seen -- you don't waste a #6 on a guy who may truthfully never be a competent starter in this league.

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Nope.  I know you and many others hated the Whitner pick but he was a legitimate starter and provided a benefit.  This is the dumbest pick I've ever seen -- you don't waste a #6 on a guy who may truthfully never be a competent starter in this league.

Jones is a WAY worse pick than Whitner. Whitner was projected about 5 picks after where we took him and he became a pro bowl safety. Maybe he was overrated and not great but that pick isn’t even in the same universe as this one. Jones at 6 is so damn stupid.

 

 

Without this being too much of a “LAMP” I love that this thread is titled “Oh Gettleman” and filled with moronic quotes from him.

Edited April 26, 2019 by Kirby Jackson

[C.Biscuit97]

I try not to overreact to a 1st qb but man, this guy seems like a disaster.  OBJ is an idiot but why do you sign him to take a cap hit?  Why do you let Collins walk and then trade for a player who is a lesser version of him?  Why do you take a qb #6 overall who could have been there in the 2nd or later?  Why not just trade a 2nd or 3rd for Rosen, who IMO would have been the 2nd QB in this class?  

 

A funny line line I heard was Jones looks like the guy cast to play Eli Manning in a movie about Peyton Manning.

[Wayne Cubed]

48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ummm Dave. Ohio state, though their defense resembled it at times last year ...not in the Big 12, my man. 

 

 

 

Unbelievable

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Gettleman is bad. That said I'd have gone that Duke QB over Haskins as well. Higher ceiling, Haskins feels like he'll be average at best. It's still a reach

 

But get your QB next year ole Gettleman. This isn't complicated.

I have no idea how good Haskins will be in the nfl - no one does. but his ceiling? He threw 50 TDs and 5000 yards in his 1st season - he got better every week and played his best vs the best defenses in the biggest games. Daniel Jones played 3 seasons and threw for 52 TDs total. 

 

In three games against top 12 defenses (Washington, Mich St and Michigan), Haskins had a 10-0 TD-INT ratio. Against those same defenses other QBs had a 30-36 TD-INT ratio. In six games against Top 25 opponents this season, he threw 20 TDs (and just  2 INTs) for 1,987 yards and completed 66.2 pct. of his throws. He won them all, despite having an all-time trash defense and below average running game. 

 

maybe Jones has a high ceiling too. But Haskins is just getting started - that was just his first year!

[MILFHUNTER#518]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

I'm dead serious.  I don't typically do much research on draft picks, but Jones is a guy I've watched for several years since I live in Durham.  There is no way in H-E-L-L I think he should have been drafted in the 1st round, much less the top ten.  And then for Gettleman to say he could sit for three years?  I think that selection is soul-crushing for Giants fans.

And career ending for Gettleman

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

And career ending for Gettleman

 

...whoa!...not so fast.......he gives himself high grades and a smooch on his twin cheeks..............

Dave Gettleman: I like my resume so far

Posted by Josh Alper on April 21, 2019, 9:46 AM EDT

Giants General Manager Dave Gettleman made the decisions to trade wide receiver Odell Beckham and not hold onto safety Landon Collins this offseason. He’s heard the criticism of those moves and he’s heard doubts about his overall plan to build the team since he was hired in late 2017.

[Wayne Cubed]

 

uh Dave, Rodgers was taken at 24.... not 6

 

Edited April 26, 2019 by Wayne Cubed

[YoloinOhio]

17 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

uh Dave, Rodgers was taken at 24.... not 6

 

Pretty Rodgers averaged more than 6.8 yards per pass in college too

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ummm Dave. Ohio state, though their defense resembled it at times last year ...not in the Big 12, my man. 

 

 

To be fair, the fact that it's still called the Big 10 is a stupid as stupid can be.

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

To be fair, the fact that it's still called the Big 10 is a stupid as stupid can be.

Should be the Big 1

[dave mcbride]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Should be the Big 1

LOL. You're referring to MSU, right?  (it's my wife's alma mater)

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

LOL. You're referring to MSU, right?  (it's my wife's alma mater)

 

[billsfan1959]

Gettleman should just hold a press conference to call himself an idiot and save us all the trouble...

[YoloinOhio]

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

13 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

To be fair, the fact that it's still called the Big 10 is a stupid as stupid can be.

Why? it's just a brand name at this point.

[Albany,n.y.]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

This may go down in history as one of the worst picks in a draft, ever.  Even highly touted QB’s are a huge 1st round risk and more often than not go bust.  A fourth round talent near the top of the draft?

The Jones pick reminds me of another QB the Giants took in the top 10.  I was living in the NYC suburbs at the time & the media & fans went nuts when the Giants used the 7th pick in the draft to take a kid from that QB factory Morehead State.  Phil Simms had a pretty good career.  

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-sports-jets-dave-gettleman-20190426-tnwdei6365erdb2eggasnczjxi-story.html

 

 

[P51]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

The look on Golics face was the same as mine before I erupted into laughter along with everyone I was watching the draft with, priceless...

 

Gettleman may have sweated out a great troll job by the Skins and others, the one guy who doesnt get the jokes on him.

 

 

[TigerJ]

Not defending Gettleman, but he drafted a QB with at least some superficial resemblance to Cam Newton, whom he drafted for the Panthers.  It is a high risk pick.  I imagine the plan is to play Eli this year and groom Jones for the future.  His protege, Brandon Beane also drafted a QB with some superficial resemblance to Cam Newton.  It's not a done deal, but Allen shows some signs that he may develop into a fine NFL QB.  I think if I were a Giants fan, my main complaint is that  he could have gotten Daniel Jones later in round 1. He maybe could have tried to trade down from 6 overall, or taken a player with more potential for immediate impact at 6 and then traded up a bit from his second first rounder.  There are those GMs whose philosophy is if you like a player a great deal, you get him when you can.

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

Not defending Gettleman, but he drafted a QB with at least some superficial resemblance to Cam Newton, whom he drafted for the Panthers.  It is a high risk pick.  I imagine the plan is to play Eli this year and groom Jones for the future.  His protege, Brandon Beane also drafted a QB with some superficial resemblance to Cam Newton.  It's not a done deal, but Allen shows some signs that he may develop into a fine NFL QB.  I think if I were a Giants fan, my main complaint is that  he could have gotten Daniel Jones later in round 1. He maybe could have tried to trade down from 6 overall, or taken a player with more potential for immediate impact at 6 and then traded up a bit from his second first rounder.  There are those GMs whose philosophy is if you like a player a great deal, you get him when you can.

What is Jones’ resemblance to Cam Newton? Honest question as I didn’t watch Duke football on the regular.  From what I saw, he was like Ryan Tannehill.

[Alphadawg7]

Gettleman is not doing a good job IMO.  His press conference was terrible about the pick.  

 

What stood out for me was that he said his love for Jones bloomed on THREE SERIES at the Senior Bowl!?!?  Are you serious?  I’ve seen Nathan Peterman play 3 good series in a row before, who the heck cares about just 3 series?

 

I realize their pick of him relied on more than that, but he literally credited those 3 series as what made him fall in love with him.  So now he over drafted a guy because of an over inflated opinion that was locked in on such a small amount of data.

 

Even if Jones plays well in the NFL, this pick will have lost value because he easily could have had an elite D prospect and still got Jones later...or Haskins...or Lock.  

 

I do get making sure you get YOUR guy, you should always IGNORE mocks and rankings and take your guy.  But then there are exceptions that are just head scratching like this or when Raiders took Heyward Bey top 10 who was at best a 2nd round pick, if that.  

 

Its not just about getting “your” guy, it’s also about managing the draft and extracting max value throughout it...and that’s where Gettleman screwed himself, he lost a ton of draft value in this move even if Jones pans out.

 

None of this matters now, all that will matter here on out is what he does on the field.  But DAMN!  What a TERRIBLE position for Jones to be in for success!?  I feel bad for the kid as he is going to be hated until he proves his worth.  He has 100 times more pressure on him being a grossly over drafted QB playing in New York.  He will get vilified and booed until he doesn’t suck...all young QBs generally suck until they don’t, so yikes that’s going to be rough road for him.

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

What is Jones’ resemblance to Cam Newton? Honest question as I didn’t watch Duke football on the regular.  From what I saw, he was like Ryan Tannehill.

Both are right-handed.

[BuffaloHokie13]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 I’ve seen Nathan Peterman play 3 good series in a row before

I'm gonna need some video evidence here...

[416BillsFan]