OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) ...Patsies tumble??............ Roth: Bills to finish 9-7, with upsets over New England Patriots, Baltimore Ravens Leo Roth, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 1:02 p.m. ET April 18, 2019 | Updated 1:12 p.m. ET April 18, 2019 New York, New York. Well actually, it’s New Jersey, New Jersey. The Buffalo Bills open the 2019 season with odd back-to-back road games against the Jets and Giants at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford. Fans might want to drive the motor home down and stay for the week. Plenty of parking. Take in a couple Broadway shows. The NFL has released its schedule (heart be still) and here’s how I see the Bills (6-10 last season) faring (Warning: this column contains upsets of Patriots and Ravens at home): https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/04/18/buffalo-bills-to-finish-9-7-with-upsets-over-new-england-patriots-and-baltimore-ravens/3507707002/ Edited April 18, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I'd be disappointed if we don't win 10+. Not even a homer but we should be challenging the Pats for the division this year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I'd be disappointed if we don't win 10+. Not even a homer but we should be challenging the Pats for the division this year. ...I'd be satisfied with a 1-1 Pats split and a WC berth earned on our own......would be a decent accomplishment IMO............. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 A win over the Ravens won’t be an “upset.” I’m not a homer but the Bills could already be as good as the Ravens. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Woah. Leo Roth said what??? Add 2 or 3 more in reality. ? The Cravens won’t upset the Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'd be satisfied with a 1-1 Pats split and a WC berth earned on our own......would be a decent accomplishment IMO............. Unless you are in a division with a 12-4 juggernaut. It will be just like last time you know where they had to win 9 games to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'd be satisfied with a 1-1 Pats split and a WC berth earned on our own......would be a decent accomplishment IMO............. We earned our WC the other year. It isn't invalidated just because one of the games that went our way was in dramatic fashion in week 17. It counts the same as the hundred other games through the season that affected our standing. How would a 9-7 record this year be more earned than a 9-7 record two years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'd be satisfied with a 1-1 Pats split and a WC berth earned on our own......would be a decent accomplishment IMO............. it will probably take 10-6 to do it. unlike most predictions that i've seen so far, i'm going with a win week one and i'm also counting a win at home against philly. i also believe we can beat those low down titans in their crib. i believe weeks 7,8,and 9 will be a 3 game win streak where we start clicking on all cylinders, getting some national buzz. if we can start no worse than 3-2, i can see a possible 11-5. my losses...ne x2, pitt, the cowboys and maybe dropping a close one against some team we should have beat...ie. the ravens in a defensive field goal battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: A win over the Ravens won’t be an “upset.” I’m not a homer but the Bills could already be as good as the Ravens. ...agree....way too much stock put in Jackson IMO.....think he is the epitome of one read and run......strictly opinion........his pressers are hardly impressive IMO... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Woah. Leo Roth said what??? Add 2 or 3 more in reality. ? The Cravens won’t upset the Bills leo looking for clicks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, billsredneck1 said: it will probably take 10-6 to do it. unlike most predictions that i've seen so far, i'm going with a win week one and i'm also counting a win at home against philly. i also believe we can beat those low down titans in their crib. i believe weeks 7,8,and 9 will be a 3 game win streak where we start clicking on all cylinders, getting some national buzz. if we can start no worse than 3-2, i can see a possible 11-5. my losses...ne x2, pitt, the cowboys and maybe dropping a close one against some team we should have beat...ie. the ravens in a defensive field goal battle. ...exactly my point......10-6 and and 1-1 split works for me.......with no "Dalton Intervention"......think about all of the potential roster newness and Josh getting acclimated....gratifying accomplishment or meh?...just askin'........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I'd hardly call a win at home against the Ravens an upset. No Flacco, Mosley, Suggs and a QB who IMO didn't impress and got exposed when it counted. We beat Tennessee last year and see no reason it can't happen again. Jets may come out tight in the opener due to unwarranted expectations. The rest I think is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agree....way too much stock put in Jackson IMO.....think he is the epitome of one read and run......strictly opinion........his pressers are hardly impressive IMO... Tyrod Taylor 2.0. Somewhat improved but with the same basic design flaws as the original. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: leo looking for clicks... ...LMAO......funny thing is Leo is a native Buffalonian but fires off his shots perennially.....ain't no homer......... 1 minute ago, FLFan said: Tyrod Taylor 2.0. Somewhat improved but with the same basic design flaws as the original. ...strange how some of the "TBD picking pundits" advocated McBeane taking him at #12...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...exactly my point......10-6 and and 1-1 split works for me.......with no "Dalton Intervention"......think about all of the potential roster newness and Josh getting acclimated....gratifying accomplishment or meh?...just askin'........ i think the fact that we have a whole new team....which basically makes dabol a new oc is going to give us an early season advantage. i'm praying we have a good summer.... starting 5 oline figured out right away....josh being much improved with timing and taking what is given...and an attacking defense. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: i think the fact that we have a whole new team....which basically makes dabol a new oc is going to give us an early season advantage. i'm praying we have a good summer.... starting 5 oline figured out right away....josh being much improved with timing and taking what is given...and an attacking defense. ...good assessment.....dead on IMO...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: I'd hardly call a win at home against the Ravens an upset. No Flacco, Mosley, Suggs and a QB who IMO didn't impress and got exposed when it counted. We beat Tennessee last year and see no reason it can't happen again. Jets may come out tight in the opener due to unwarranted expectations. The rest I think is spot on. Yea that is the only point I was take with Leo. Ravens are absolutely our equal and I think were better straight up. They like the Steelers rest on reputation not actual true roster analysis these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: A win over the Ravens won’t be an “upset.” I’m not a homer but the Bills could already be as good as the Ravens. I’m curious about the Ravens. Will they have any semblance of a passing game? Will teams figure them out and make it a tough year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m curious about the Ravens. Will they have any semblance of a passing game? Will teams figure them out and make it a tough year? Their WR corp is hilariously bad pre-draft. We will see after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: A win over the Ravens won’t be an “upset.” I’m not a homer but the Bills could already be as good as the Ravens. I fully agree on this. Ravens are not that great of a team, especially on defense now. They’ll never win a game this season if they go down 10 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Basically the road to the playoffs means a split with the pats......if we can do that HUGE step forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m curious about the Ravens. Will they have any semblance of a passing game? Will teams figure them out and make it a tough year? They got pretty figured out in the playoffs. They were a train wreck on offense. They couldn't do a thing in the passing game. I think they will grind out 7 or 8 wins because they have a quality coach, but I don't think it'll be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m curious about the Ravens. Will they have any semblance of a passing game? Will teams figure them out and make it a tough year? ...a WHAT??....Harbaugh was smart inking his extension quickly with their QB eggs in Jackson's basket IMO.....strictly opinion, but Watson kid is similar in style and despite being a project, FAR more polished than Jackson...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: A win over the Ravens won’t be an “upset.” I’m not a homer but the Bills could already be as good as the Ravens. Baltimore's defense was one of the best last season yet they might take a step down or two because of lost UFAs. Yet they should have a better running game with Ingram taking carries compared to their guys from last year. That said I don't like their passing game at all as not sold on Lamar and they don't have great WRs. We should beat them since we're playing that home but it's no gimme either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Baltimore's defense was one of the best last season yet they might take a step down or two because of lost UFAs. Yet they should have a better running game with Ingram taking carries compared to their guys from last year. That said I don't like their passing game at all as not sold on Lamar and they don't have great WRs. We should beat them since we're playing that home but it's no gimme either. ..think we have the horsepower to challenge them, especially defensively with Jackson at the helm.....damn well NO repeats of the Jax/Bortles escapade.....good Lord... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I think 8-8 +/- 1 is a fair prediction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I'd be disappointed if we don't win 10+. Not even a homer but we should be challenging the Pats for the division this year. Playoffs are all that matter. 9-7 10-6 either way if they make the playoffs that is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 How is beating Baltimore an upset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casmo Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 honesty, I'll take 9-7 at this point. it sucks but it is on the right track, next is 13-3. Lets do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Max Fischer said: A win over the Ravens won’t be an “upset.” I’m not a homer but the Bills could already be as good as the Ravens. I see Lamar Jackson taking a step back this fall. I too have us at 9-7 going 4-2 in the east with NE/NY splits. Probably losing to the Eagles but the remaining games can be had.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said: leo looking for clicks... Oh. clicks. * I looked quickly, and thought it said ‘chicks’. * What do those ‘experts’ over at ‘Come Get Bills’ predict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why do people insist that it's only possible to make tiny increments of progress year to year? The Rams went from 5-11 in 2016 to 12-4 the next year. Look at the Bears this year. 8-8 to 9-7 is a mediocre team. I expect more. They went to 11-5 not 12-4 They got some really good receivers Gurley and Goff both made mega leaps Oh and the biggest one? They fired Fisher and got a new coach, mcvay Bears did the same Went from 5-11 to 12-4 They changed coaches (fox to nagy) Mitch made a nice improvement They got a really good receivers And the went and got Khalil Mack I don't think we did enough at receiver or in general free agent wise to make the leap that those teams made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Jets opened as 3.5 point favorites FWIW. 25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why do people insist that it's only possible to make tiny increments of progress year to year? The Rams went from 5-11 in 2016 to 12-4 the next year. Look at the Bears this year. 8-8 to 9-7 is a mediocre team. I expect more. 8-8/9-7 wouldn't be cataclysmic and certainly wouldn't cost anyone their job, but it wouldn't be "successful" per se. As you said, look at all the teams that turn it around in a year or two. Why not us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, corta765 said: Yea that is the only point I was take with Leo. Ravens are absolutely our equal and I think were better straight up. They like the Steelers rest on reputation not actual true roster analysis these days. 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Baltimore's defense was one of the best last season yet they might take a step down or two because of lost UFAs. Yet they should have a better running game with Ingram taking carries compared to their guys from last year. That said I don't like their passing game at all as not sold on Lamar and they don't have great WRs. We should beat them since we're playing that home but it's no gimme either. They lost Mosley, Za'Darius Smith, John Brown, Weddle and Suggs. They gained Earl Thomas and Ingram. Big losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I would take a 9-7 playoff season in a heartbeat. For 9-7 to happen, Allen would have to play well and it would really feel like we are going somewhere. I want to believe but I need to be shown at this point, I’m scarred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Well the offseason isn't over but I tend to agree and have been saying it despite all their moves..... they haven't done enough at the WR position... and the front 7 as a whole is still an average to below average unit. I guess I'm just saying that the personnel changes we made vs those other examples of big win leap teams aren't on the same level Getting a wr talent like obj or ab (regardless of their personality issues) and a defensive guy like Frank Clark, combined with Allen making a leap, is what it would take I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yep. Again, offseason isn't over. Perhaps they still make a trade for a big time WR. Dont see it happening but you never know. Feel it's a bit of a disappointment they haven't swung for the fences for a big talent WR. Thought it was priority number one for this team. Might swing for the fences with a guy like Metcalf in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I would take a 9-7 playoff season in a heartbeat. For 9-7 to happen, Allen would have to play well and it would really feel like we are going somewhere. I want to believe but I need to be shown at this point, I’m scarred. Based on roster construction, I fully agree. I'd be fine with 9-7 with a playoff spot. Overall though, I don't feel like that should be viewed as a major victory for the regime when you look around the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agree....way too much stock put in Jackson IMO.....think he is the epitome of one read and run......strictly opinion........his pressers are hardly impressive IMO... he was exposed in that Play-off game, that is more of what you'll see from him this year. I doubt they will have a winning record this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Definitely staying with 7-9 until I see at least 2 elite talents added to this roster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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