Reed83HOF Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 That sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I thought he just signed an extension? That does suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 But what about the children?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, snafu said: I thought he just signed an extension? That does suck. I'm sure that was just UB protecting themselves with a bigger buyout. Those extensions for college coaches mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I'm sure that was just UB protecting themselves with a bigger buyout. Those extensions for college coaches mean nothing. Fooled me. I should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 this sucks was hoping for a few more years to stabilize and grow the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, snafu said: Fooled me. I should have known better. If it was truly an equitable system all the players would now be able to leave on a free transfer without having to sit out but they cant. Fortunately for UB most of their players are JUCO transfers and only have 2 years of eligibility anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: If it was truly an equitable system all the players would now be able to leave on a free transfer without having to sit out but they cant. Fortunately for UB most of their players are JUCO transfers and only have 2 years of eligibility anyway. If it was truly an honorable system, coaches would honor the paper they put their signature on. And I agree about the players being free to move without the sit-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I knew it **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Can't trust a soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Skydiver’s behind it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Whatever. If he couldn’t get it done with this roster he was never going to. Texas Tech absolutely embarrassed him. UB was woefully underprepared. Does Alabama even have a decent Basketball program? I don’t rememer hearing about them making any noise in the past few years. Edited March 27, 2019 by Bills2ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I knew it **** Guess you were right... this sucks. Hope the guy thats a good recruiter whos name escapes me right now stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: this sucks was hoping for a few more years to stabilize and grow the program. I was hoping for even just one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 That sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: Whatever. If he couldn’t get it done with this roster he was never going to. Texas Tech absolutely embarrassed him. UB was woefully underprepared. Would have helped if the players could make a basket over the course of an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Unreal.. What a POS. I lost all respect for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I was hoping this program would grow, and become more popular than the Bandits or Bisons. Hopefully it still can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: Whatever. If he couldn’t get it done with this roster he was never going to. Texas Tech absolutely embarrassed him. UB was woefully underprepared. There is a difference between MAC good and Big 12/SEC good. UB had no interior game to speak of, were generally small, and extremely reliant on making shots from the outside. Texas Tech is one of the best defensive teams in the country. They shut lots of people down and if you are 1 dimensional it's easier. Recruiting to Alabama for basketball isn't easy. Lots of competition and they don't really have a strong tradition. Avery Johnson came from the NBA and couldn't get it done recruiting wise. He also doesn't have Bobby Hurley's name recognition when he's sitting in someone's living room. A rotating group of JUCO mercenaries isn't going to get it done in the SEC. You need your share of one and dones or you are toast. Welcome to the big leagues Nate. If you can't recruit from Day 1 you'll be back at a mid major in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: There is a difference between MAC good and Big 12/SEC good. UB had no interior game to speak of, were generally small, and extremely reliant on making shots from the outside. Texas Tech is one of the best defensive teams in the country. They shut lots of people down and if you are 1 dimensional it's easier. Recruiting to Alabama for basketball isn't easy. Lots of competition and they don't really have a strong tradition. Avery Johnson came from the NBA and couldn't get it done recruiting wise. He also doesn't have Bobby Hurley's name recognition when he's sitting in someone's living room. A rotating group of JUCO mercenaries isn't going to get it done in the SEC. You need your share of one and dones or you are toast. Welcome to the big leagues Nate. If you can't recruit from Day 1 you'll be back at a mid major in 3 years. Alabama has been recruiting phenomenally in basketball the last 5 years. tons of high major 4* recruits and a top 7 player in Collin Sexton. UB can’t land those caliber players regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I wish UB could find a coach who would be at the point in his career to be content as a Big Dog in the MAC. I expected Hurley to jump as soon as the opportunity arose, but I didn’t expect it from Oats. I wonder if the UB AD was blindsided by the news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Alabama has been recruiting phenomenally in basketball the last 5 years. tons of high major 4* recruits and a top 7 player in Collin Sexton. UB can’t land those caliber players regularly Whetzel interviews him in Cleveland the morning after he signed the new contract.. I did NOT feel comfortable after the interview...he knew then he wouldn't be back but he played a Hollywood role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: I wish UB could find a coach who would be at the point in his career to be content as a Big Dog in the MAC. I expected Hurley to jump as soon as the opportunity arose, but I didn’t expect it from Oats. I wonder if the UB AD was blindsided by the news. 0 chance. It’s hard to say because I’m a homer but UB will always be the stepping stone for good coaches MAC basketball just doesn’t have much prestige. It’s a lower tier D1 conference They need to keep the pipeline of coaches full 2 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Whetzel interviews him in Cleveland the morning after he signed the new contract.. I did NOT feel comfortable after the interview...he knew then he wouldn't be back but he played a Hollywood role. I knew he would be gone . He is a hot commodity and is losing a bunch of seniors He has no allegiance to UB, never did. But he did help build the profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Why even bother signing the extension if you plan on leaving w/ the first dog that comes sniffing your backside? Yes, it's a guarantee w/ money in your pocket, just in case that dog doesn't come sniffing. Mid-Major, state run school w/o deep pocketed boosters (compared to the likes of Alabama and ASU) can't compete. Then again, what's wrong w/ being a Mark Few type coach, happy to be a mid-major powerhouse your whole career w/o getting that high end salary attached. Maybe I'm just old school and prefer to honor my obligations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Unreal.. What a POS. I lost all respect for him. Yep, cause if someone offered you 5x your salary you would stay out to be loyal too! dont blame the person, blame the system. Sucks being ing a mid major, but this is life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Yep, cause if someone offered you 5x your salary you would stay out to be loyal too! dont blame the person, blame the system. Sucks being ing a mid major, but this is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 For purely selfish reasons, I hope UB hires one of the Syracuse assistants as his replacement. Tough loss for you guys but what a season you guys had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So that’s 3x , plus the shoe deal, plus all the ancillary income , no doubt it’s 5X, plus the resources of a power 5 school. It’s a no brainer for him, strike while the iron is hot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierlifer Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Unreal.. What a POS. I lost all respect for him. LGM at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Can't trust a soul. Bama' $2.4 Million U.B. $837,000 Tell me you would turn that down... Edited March 27, 2019 by Lurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Scoop up Patrick Belein before someone else does 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bills2ref said: Whatever. If he couldn’t get it done with this roster he was never going to. Texas Tech absolutely embarrassed him. UB was woefully underprepared. Does Alabama even have a decent Basketball program? I don’t rememer hearing about them making any noise in the past few years. The Big 12 (1st rank BPI) should--and did--mop the floor with MAC teams (15th rank BPI), including U.B. 'Bama is in the SEC (5th rank BPI) and had a 18-16 record in 2018, so he's moving on up big time here... 1 hour ago, 707BillsFan said: Why even bother signing the extension if you plan on leaving w/ the first dog that comes sniffing your backside? U.B. did the extension to get a bigger buyout. They knew he was gone and made a smart move to grab some $$$ on the way out the door... Again, who here would turn down a 3X raise ($2.4 million vs. $837,000)? Crickets chirping.... Edited March 27, 2019 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lurker said: U.B. did the extension to get a bigger buyout. They knew he was gone and made a smart move to grab some $$$ on the way out the door... Again, who here would turn down a 3X raise ($2.4 million vs. $837,000)? Crickets chirping.... I'd need at least $3 million if I had to live in Alabama, no thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, 707BillsFan said: I'd need at least $3 million if I had to live in Alabama, no thanks. Sure you would sparky... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: Sure you would sparky... Believe what you want Skippy. Coaches haven't been fired yet. He could have held out for something better than....Alabama. What's the old adage...Location, Location, Location. Alabama doesn't even have one of those locations. Plus you''ll never get noticed because he'll always be overshadowed by the football program. Bad move on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, The Poojer said: Scoop up Patrick Belein before someone else does Love this idea!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, 707BillsFan said: Believe what you want Skippy. Coaches haven't been fired yet. He could have held out for something better than....Alabama. What's the old adage...Location, Location, Location. Alabama doesn't even have one of those locations. Plus you''ll never get noticed because he'll always be overshadowed by the football program. Bad move on his part. Whether or not he will succeed is up in the air ... but he has the ability to consistently grab big time recruits at Alabama. Something that is hard to do at UB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 As a Xavier fan, I can tell you NO buyout is EVER big enough. This is what happens, unless you are Duke, Kansas, UK, UNC, etc. How Mark Few stays put I’ll never understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I don't blame him........But, the optics are so bad when you signed an extension 2 weeks ago. How many times are the media going to be fooled by that and say Well, Nate Oats is staying! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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